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THC's 2009 outdoor grow

Paddi

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Congrats with your tobacco-stop THC123 :)
You just extended your life 10-15 years :cool:

What a lovely comeback bro :):):)


P :smoke:
 

THC123

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@ Esbe thx 4 the positive vibes man ,

@ cheese core and norcallv ,3rd eye

thx guys , next year the frisian at my place will be bigger cuz i will invest in new fresh soil:yeahthats

i am also gonna make the hole wider but less deep but the same volume


@ Paddi

thx P , all the weed smells a lot better and stronger now

GODDAMNIT THE HEDGEHOG IN MY GARDEN IS AGAIN IN MY HOUSE :wallbash:

Cute animal but it shits and pisses everywhere , gotta put it outside quick lol
 

THC123

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yeah but they are a pain in the ass lol , my cage broke this morning , damn , have to make a new cage or she will break:fsu:
 

johnyhash

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Wow Thc123 your going to have a boat load of buds when all is said and done, really nice work mate.
 

THC123

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well let's hope the frisian dew can make it 6 more weeks , cuz she is lookin uglier every day , seems nute deficiency but it is just not possible

ph is about 6.8 like always(and like plagron royalty mix)

Here a few new pics of my huge but sick girl

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supposed P deficiency(in theory)

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supposed k def(in theory)
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normal branches

i also see that branches that didn't break in the storm are normal whereas the formerly broken ones seem to be actin weird

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she still has to go till half october

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comparison between normal and sick branch , the paler ones have smaller buds


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the frisian from her worse side:wallbash: , as you can see the lower rbanches are fine , but all the branches above a certain point where the stem was split in 2 are fucked up.

I never had such an ugly plant:mad: just look how those weird leaves are drooping

But hey she smells fantastic already and as lonjg as she makes decent buds i don't care

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the back side doesn't have those problems like the front side
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left side view from within the greenhouse


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my very late light polluted guerillia gold , she will be ready half october and is in exact the same recipe as the frisian dew , she only has 60 liters of soil instead of 500 liters , so it is real surprising to see that this plant doesn't show any probs

i already see she will make big buds , i hope they won't mold away

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lowryder f2.

hope i can harvest her mold free as september and october are real risky months here , even in a greenhouse

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this product is perfect against spider mites , it is safe and biodegredable and it WORKS .

Finally no more spider mites indoor

Here a few pics of the nederzaad 2007 grow

It was supposed to be a seedgrow but they are all female


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since i will not be able to harvest seeds i am kinda neglecting this grow and forget even to water most of the time , i know shame on me , i also didn't feed them at all

I germed new seeds they are in the gh now and as soon as i find a male i will remove thse plants from my indoor setup and put in new plants , i don't care bout the weed i only want to preserve the friggin strain :dueling:

all these females will end up in my greenhouse where i hope they won't mold away , as soon as i have new nederzaad 2007 plants out they go even if they aren't finished they still have approx 5 weeks to go




So that was it still got a few pics comin from another grow at another buddies place , some nice frisian and guerliia gold pics.

It's a shame the grow at my place got kinda fucked at the last moment but the sun can't always shine

learned 2 lessons

1. use FRESH new soil do not recycle
2. make a big strong cage BEFORE you put the plant there so it will never break or spilt in 2(so lazy sometimes)
 
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nomaad

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learned 2 lessons

1. use FRESH new soil do not recycle
2. make a big strong cage BEFORE you put the plant there so it will never break or spilt in 2(so lazy sometimes)


The garden looks absolutely beautiful. why the doom and gloom? your problem does not look like the end of the world.

What bloom nutes are you feeding? Its still localized... Seems like local budsites are sucking the PK out of the local leaves because they are not uptaking enough in the roots. In the process they lack the PK to produce buds as big as the rest of the plant.

If those are the two deficiencies, why not just boost the PK in the feeding?
 

johnyhash

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Hey thc that does look like k deff, I would top dress with some wood ashes for some organic k. Peace.
 

THC123

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The garden looks absolutely beautiful. why the doom and gloom? your problem does not look like the end of the world.

What bloom nutes are you feeding? Its still localized... Seems like local budsites are sucking the PK out of the local leaves because they are not uptaking enough in the roots. In the process they lack the PK to produce buds as big as the rest of the plant.

Hey well she has 500 liters of soil the bottom 180 liters of strong flowering mix being the basis and then i added npk pellets 6-4-11 about 3.5 weeks ago with some worm castings and bone meal

Normally this combined with rain is more than enough if they are in new soil.

But cuz i saw she still showed deficiency i have been giving her bio bizz bio bloom npk 2-6-3 , topmax and bioheaven for the micro nutes oh yeah and some mollasses with it too.

the last 2 weeks i even gave her the maximum dose(5ml/l)

So that's why i think it just cannot be a nute deficiency but rather an inbalance in the soil cuz it is soil from the years 2006 , 2007 and 2008 that is being amended and reused

I also have pk13/14 here but i am gonna give it away or throw it away cuz last year i said to myself i would never use it again. i used to give that during one week about 3 times around 3 weeks before harvest but it just makes the smoke harsh even with flushing , it gives big buds but it is absolute rubbish , i tested plants side by side so i am sure of this

@johnny : also thanks to you for your input on this matter


@exodus : thanks bro
 

Core

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i still say that the leaves are frying....leaves that show a deficiency don't have brown edges from burning.....(you know like a sigaretpaper) leeave that have a defciency don't have theses small burn edges/tips....they just go plain yellow wil some otker charicaristics like spots and such...Nhow i still think they look marvelous !
 

dread

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hello bro's,my frisian shows the same signs
i&i think it was fryed by the sun
grtz
D.
 

nomaad

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Hey well she has 500 liters of soil the bottom 180 liters of strong flowering mix being the basis and then i added npk pellets 6-4-11 about 3.5 weeks ago with some worm castings and bone meal

Normally this combined with rain is more than enough if they are in new soil.

But cuz i saw she still showed deficiency i have been giving her bio bizz bio bloom npk 2-6-3 , topmax and bioheaven for the micro nutes oh yeah and some mollasses with it too.

the last 2 weeks i even gave her the maximum dose(5ml/l)

So that's why i think it just cannot be a nute deficiency but rather an inbalance in the soil cuz it is soil from the years 2006 , 2007 and 2008 that is being amended and reused

I also have pk13/14 here but i am gonna give it away or throw it away cuz last year i said to myself i would never use it again. i used to give that during one week about 3 times around 3 weeks before harvest but it just makes the smoke harsh even with flushing , it gives big buds but it is absolute rubbish , i tested plants side by side so i am sure of this

@johnny : also thanks to you for your input on this matter


@exodus : thanks bro

Have u tested the soil pH? i'd mix a bottle with half soil and half water with a 6.5 pH... shake for as long as you can stand it and retest pH. then water with a solution pH that corrects the imbalance. just a thought. makes me sad to see... wish I had some better advice.

have u posted in the infirmary?
 

THC123

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yes i tested the ph with a pin meter it was 6.8

But i think i am gonna buy me a decent one just for the frisian lady , normally i don't ever have to watch ph

but how do i correct the ph should it be wrong?? i know i can buy ph + and - fluids in the local growshop but the hole is so big it's 500 liters , so how much fluid would i have to add should i want to correct it?
 

3rd I

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Hey what are your night time temps? It's been 42-45F here for the past 4 nights or so (daytime mid to upper 70s) and i did notice some of the same symptoms on some of mine...Does the sun hit the top of that plant in the morning when it's still wet from morning dew?

Looking great bro :D
 

nomaad

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I don't think you could, at this stage, permanently change your soil's pH... you could mix in amendments, but not if its full of roots. Its just about feeding your plants with a solution at the right ph so that the run-off comes out between 6 and 6.5. since that is the pH at which the majority of your nutes is available to your plants.

you could take the water you get from shaking it up with the soil and add to it ph'ed water that brings it to 6-6.5... then make your feeding solution that same pH...

anyhow... hope it helps... i hate giving advice on problems I have never personally faced...
 

THC123

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saturdayi am gonna go to the netherlands to buy me a decent ph meter , so by then i will know more(it's only a 20 minute ride with the car)
 

nomaad

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3rdI- you think its some kind of dew-burn? i have misted my plants on 100+ degree days when the sun is right overhead (much stronger because its passing thru much less atmosphere to get to the plant than the morning sun you are talking about) and all it does is evaporate the water. I would never spray any kind of product or substance on there besides pure water... point is, i am surprised to hear that you suspect burn from dew.
 

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