Ph-PPM Perfect Advanced Nutrients Formula???

[ripman]

Pod Said that N is needed in qaulity at least for the first three weeks of flowering, than it can be phased out. Or something like that. The same I believe is the new idea of AN. Of course N must go totally out by the time you cut the plants, as the plant must be well flushed and N is the worst to be smoked. Isn't N anyway an important basis to make photosintesis?
My strategy will be to totally cut N in the last 3 weeks and I'll have to decide what to do before. If it wasn't I'm planning to use Bushmaster, which cuts a couple of weeks of strectch phase, I'd surely do three weeks of high N in bloom and then gradually phasing it out up to 0 for the 5th or 6th week depending on the plant.

 

[dongle69]

The Botanicare price looks good but you have to factor in some PK boost also.

Well it has perfect p according to AN so you shouldn't need a pk boost.
Right AN?
Muwahahahahaha!
Just bustin' balls....

 

[YosemiteSam]

maybe just a k boost, that wouldn't be expensive at all. same might go for H3ad's formula, that would be interesting...a pinch of potash, a hint of fulvic with some aminos chunked in.

and i am not saying i agree with AN. but it is interesting IF there is any real, non AN sponsored, science behind it.

AN is sort of like the police, all over when you don't wanna see em but nowhere to be found when you want em.

 

[dongle69]

It also depends what medium you use.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You got me into coco, thank you very much.

I still don't believe that extra available K in flower from coco. I believe that once the cec is filled the coco becomes inert less you do something crazy like flush with plain water unless it is the final flush. I could be wrong about that one though.

what would be an interesting trial would be lucas vs lucas minus some P. that would show if AN is right or just "marketing".

Plus I am vegging with MaxiGrow and Floralicious +...thank you for that one too, works like a charm.

 

[snafu421]

is the perfect ph/ppm going to be for coco to, if so im all for it cuz i like the organic soil

 

[dongle69]

I posted some of this in another thread but you should check out some of Big Mike's (AN's head honcho) videos...

They prey on the insecure with their grower's labels.
As you get better you are allowed to spend more money on more products!
You start as a Hobbyist then work your way up......
Expert......Professional...... Grand Master.
GH does a similar thing but they aren't as hardcore about it.
They just have Keep it Simple and Expert.
After 20 years of growing I'm still not an expert.
Damn!
Check out this site for some laughs:
http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/
There is a video of Big Mike describing how he got his best ideas from McDonalds and he shows his personal supplement cabinet (for him, not plants).
It all makes sense now.

 

[ripman]

I believe those guys at AN are stupid pricks... Ok they have made a lot of money and maybe they know how to sell, but they are dealing with this stuff about ppm-perfect in a pathetic way... you don't announce something in April (or even before) and then have no product ready four months after, it is just plain stupid...
You announce something and you put it on the shelf! Otherwise people start having doubts, why was it delayed, can they deliver what they say or is all just marketing bullshit?
Their site sucks too, some product can be found in advencepedia but not in the product presentation, other products are just the opposite, some others, like Emerald Shaman, are not even listed.
I just hope it's summer time and people are in vacation, but they'd better clean out everything and start delivering, they are loosing their face even more than they have already done in the past.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yikes...I feel like I have been kicked in the nuts for watching that whining ass drivel. That is a whole lot of vitamins though.

 

[dongle69]

In one of the videos, he shares with us his favorite meal at Mcdonalds:
2 hamburgers, a filet of fish, caramel sundae, and unsweetened ice tea.
Is that the "grand master" meal?

 

[Seed Buyer]

I think Big Mouth....I mean Big Mike would make a lot more money selling Sham-Wows than nutrients. I ran the Advanced line for a while, but at the end of the day it comes down to genetics not fancy labels. What ever happened to the old dude from Nor Cal who had the "Millenium" nutrient line?

 

[Jebus11]

Hi ******* thanks for your interest in AN. The new line of products is coming
out peace meal, the Ph perfect products will be available in middle fall
2009.
Cheers!
Charlie

Straight from AN! So we will see.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

The new line of products is coming
out peace meal,

After many years of disliking typoes intensely..... I'm beginning to find them funny.
Isn't that supposed to be Piece meal?

 

[dongle69]

After many years of disliking typoes intensely.....

Isn't that supposed to be typos?

 

[YosemiteSam]

I am holding out for the Jedi Master line with a guaranteed 93.7% increase in yield. You have to sense when it comes out though...it isn't for everyone...but you will know if it is for you grasshopper.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Isn't that supposed to be typos?

Nah I quit spelling it that way years ago LOL


On a side note: Anyone care to formulate a thread starter to (hopefully) glean any information people may have on nute strategies to increase CBD production? Seems from some of what I've read in this thread that there should be more interest in that..... don't we all want a longer effect from the meds..... if we're growing for medical that is.

 

[ripman]

The new line of products is coming out peace meal,

After many years of disliking typoes intensely..... I'm beginning to find them funny.
Isn't that supposed to be Piece meal?

Jesus, don't you know the whole idea came out of McDonalds?!? Obviously the guy wanted to say the new line is coming outta Peace meal, that is the typo! Peace Meal must be the Happy Meal with AN Nutes instead of stupid games. Use the nute, get big buds, smoke two joints and... PEAAAACE!

Don't forget Big Mike is the King of Marketing and MCDONALDS IS THE WAY!!!!

 

[BigForest]

no bundles yet???????????????

 

[BigForest]

 

[bud-e]

It's funny to me when people contradict themselves with their own complaints. If the marketing videos are so lame, how can we also be complaining about how enormous the marketing machine is?

I don't know about you guys, but I don't see this massive juggernaut the rest of you seem to. Their stuff isn't the same as the big budget companies, it seems pretty low-key to me. So Big Mike is clearly not an actor. He's not supposed to be, right?

If I were in charge of their marketing I'd have done it different, but if you ask 10 different people how to do something like that you'll get at LEAST ten different answers. I don't care how they do it anyway, the nutes work great. It's not like we're using the videos to grow our plants, right?