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cause he has'nt stabelized the hermi gene. i think hes looking to get fem. seeds to explore the genetic varraitons within the strain.so he can hermie that to pollenate the clone...???? right?????.
? Now stop what your thinking right now. Some people say "tomato",some say"tomato".
sounds like your up for testing the water cork...
i see all this as a group fem testing project
how do you see it?
Breeding with males and females is soooo 2008.
i see it as a very interesting experience
one thing that just occured to me is this,
once this is stable, then you will outcross it, why recreate something that you have now? Why not just outcross it straight away?
Forest, the point Charles made in that other thread was that if you have 2 female clones, then it doesn't matter which of the 2 that you reverse. If you are talking about a population, each plant will have a different genome than the next, so it would make a difference not only which line the male came from, but also which male within that line was used (same true of females of course).
Can't really say Sam is against selfing, he has probably done more selfing of cannabis than anybody. At one point I believe he may have even referred to the technique as proprietary. I had to smirk a little when he used an "IBL population of imported seeds" in his example in the linked thread, again, this is the type of population where many deleterious recessives might be sheltered in heterozygotes. He also went 5 generations in his example. He might be the kind of guy that might say something like we better leave this type of breeding to others, but believe me, Sam uses selfing in breeding.
Many of you are talking about the old ways, and real breeders use real breeding techs etc. The truth is that cannabis for one reason or another lags far far behind other plants when it comes to breeding techniques, and many might rightfully wonder when the real breeding will begin so to speak.
This technique -selfing- it should not be used for maintaining existing inbred lines for one example. It does have a viable places however, in my opinion, like creating new IBL's from elite clones to be outcrossed.
LOL, to be fair though, I believe he meant sex-reversal selfing as opposed to IBL, Mendelian BX type selfing.Can't really say Sam is against selfing, he has probably done more selfing of cannabis than anybody. I had to smirk a little when he used an "IBL population of imported seeds" in his example in the linked thread, again, this is the type of population where many deleterious recessives might be sheltered in heterozygotes. He also went 5 generations in his example. He might be the kind of guy that might say something like we better leave this type of breeding to others, but believe me, Sam uses selfing in breeding.
I believe that population breeding, traditional pedigree breeding and sex-reversal pedigree breeding all potentially have a legitimate place in the community. Arjan is probably the only breeder that could afford genetic engineering and I sure as hell wouldn't trust that putz with the future of my favorite plant. Therefore ,IMO, maintaining genetic diversity becomes key.Many of you are talking about the old ways, and real breeders use real breeding techs etc. The truth is that cannabis for one reason or another lags far far behind other plants when it comes to breeding techniques, and many might rightfully wonder when the real breeding will begin so to speak.
Agreed.This technique -selfing- it should not be used for maintaining existing inbred lines for one example. It does have a viable places however, in my opinion, like creating new IBL's from elite clones to be outcrossed.
if it's ever legalised, you can bet genetic engineering will kick off big time.