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[lost in a sea]

interesting, i did not know that pirate138

 

[lost in a sea]

lol, thanks for the tip. I hope i can grow it in my climate, this will be my first time hardening them off for outdoors. It may start to snow in mid Nov so Im gonna be cuttin it close. BB says the cheese will finish in late Oct. so ill probably choose the more indica dominent pheno to harden. Ill also be growing some afghan outdoors, any tips for that strain?

they should defo be ready by november, yea ive grown afgan, its hardy and should be pritty happy outside compared potencially with cheese ,it will probobly go bushier than the cheese, the afgan has a smooth soft taste and a nice warm high

 

[TheCheeseMan]

Thanks man, cant wait to get them in the sunshine!

 

[guest123]

good questions, very good. Anything selfed will compramise the DNA totally,

As for those selfed beans you got, its always hard to tell but the odds (of intersexed plants) are greatly increased, one problem is that hermies can lack parts of neccissary chromosomes, and that can criple the plant

Hope some of that helped

LIAS

No, no help whatsoever. Would you care to qualify any of that that with anything at all resembling scientific evidence? Or even reasonable thought? Of course you wouldn't. New handle, same old regurgitated rubbish.

 

[berlinweed]

No, no help whatsoever. Would you care to qualify any of that that with anything at all resembling scientific evidence? Or even reasonable thought? Of course you wouldn't. New handle, same old regurgitated rubbish.

How about the other way? You think he is wrong, so tell us about scientific evidence!

I am new to the board, so is LIAS and so are you but LIAS gives friendly advice and as far as I can read he seems to have first hand knowledge.

But maybe it is just the way you ask him that has a latent unpleasent undertone? Well then try it again.... I am sure you can.

I do not have anything against you, how could I (!) but all bad vibes begin with negative thoughts and then words come out and can´t be taken back.


Peace

BW

 

[lost in a sea]

Hey look, i have not done a scientific study ok cannafriend? so no me and my laboratory buddies cant prove this fact to you with imperical, peer reviewed proof! ok im bothering to do this because 15+ years of growing this plant in an industrious manner seeking to try as many strains as possible, a degree in biology, and 10+ years of owning a legit nursery qualifies me to say what i know about plants.

ok a bit more reasonable thought- in any plant something that selfs its self is making seeds from its own (limited) genes, this retards any plants chromosomes, which i mentioned may be missing in part or some altogether, the greater a plants hybrid vigour and genetic range the less likely you are to ruin it but this only means your running less risk of creating a complete retard, this will happen in any plant species ok? its a bit like if you had a womb and girls genitalia as well as a mans, and you knocked yourself up would you expect your daughters to all be normal??
also to clarify all hermie plants in any species that are dioecious are un-natural retards, in nature they would be outcompeted genetically and not exist in a large scale way. cannabis has no regulating body(obviously) so people do what the fuck they want and dont expect someone to pick them up on it! well if we continue in this manner eventually all strains may get ruined as we push on into all this random modern day hybrids. if you make and sell seeds and your plants have hermie seeds in the middle, because you either have too many plants and didnt pick it up, or the nugs out grew late developing male flowers you messed up.

and thank you berlinweed for making the good point that you can easily phrase things in a un-cynical manner! im not here to fuck you around dude, but you believe whatever the hell you want, i can tell your a real pro! so please dont let a fresh faced noob like myself teach you how to suck eggs! convoluting your thought processes and what not!

it may say im a new member but trust me, i have been here many times before, and its always people like yourself who would rarther chat shit than say something constructive that make me think that theres no hope for these forums, i dont need to be here for my sake, but i would have loved a bit of advice myself on many strains before i baught them. K+ to all the open minded people still here on ic

 

[TronCarter]

No, no help whatsoever. Would you care to qualify any of that that with anything at all resembling scientific evidence? Or even reasonable thought? Of course you wouldn't. New handle, same old regurgitated rubbish.

How did LIAS's answer not help? FWIW, the observations about selfing fall right in line with my own experience. 2 years ago, my lone plant hermed and pollinated itself, leaving me with 60ish seeds. I germed 40 of them, and found only 6 that were even remotely viable...the rest suffered from a wide range of mutations. Some would just stop growing after the first set of serrated leaves, some were just miniature plants with developing fan leaves that never grew or elongated, and others suffered from major leaf deformities. Also, NONE of the 6 'viable' plants were copies of the original mother, and they were all fem hermies. I know seedmakers use sophisticated methods to 'self' their plants, and perhaps these methods allow for the female to reverse without introducing hermaphroditism, but I would think that the ratio of mutants would still be an issue.

 

[Quentin]

Lost in a Cyberwax Sea of Bullshit.

Lost in a Cyberwax Sea of Bullshit.

Cheers primo k+ back atcha

yea bros grimm are now spice bros (not spice of life). at least thats what their known as on drchronic.com its hard to find em anywhere else and even on drchronics their not in products for some reason you have to click on seedbank and then your in a different list(slightly), but i dont know if that means their in stock or not, although they usually say when there not, email them they usually respond.

Im calling this Fhead out!

-This IS PURE BUNK


One Thing WE DONT NEED is Bullshit spread all over.

 

[Weedman Herb]

You actually believed the Spice Bros are Soul and Sly ???? HaHaHaHa HaHaHaHa HaHaHaHa Now that's Funny ...

 

[neongreen]

good questions, very good. Anything selfed will compramise the DNA totally, shame when breeders who dont want to spend the time homogenising their strains and making sure that feminised pollen doesn't accidentally pollute their standard strains.One reason i feel maybe responsible for all the hermie infected genetics, apart from breeder laziness or incompetance, is using hydroponics, now hydro is very efficient as everybody knows, but in my experience the nugs easily outgrow the male hermie flowers so breeders wouldnt know that their choice females secretly selfed themselves. Elite clones do and dont exist, i have been given many elite clones and mostly they were pritty elite, but after buying the same strains repeatedly i found individuals far far better than the elites of the same strain, but it depends which elite you want, i have to date baught over 10 crosses with chem in, i do love the taste but from what i have seen hermies are a big problem with that line. As for those selfed beans you got, its always hard to tell but the odds are greatly increased, one problem is that hermies can lack parts of neccissary chromosomes, and that can criple the plant but doesnt always happen. breeding in soil allows you to see what you breeding with hydro makes it very hard to pick out defining features that you want.
Hope some of that helped

LIAS

Seeds produced by selfing, and hermie seeds are not synonymous. Properly produced selfed seeds (produced by properly using STS or CS) will not carry hermie traits, providing the parent did not have the trait itself.

 

[DocLeaf]

I n I wanna know why no-one self-ed Cheese.. lol (not really I know the answer).. :wink:

It's good to see that a member is ready n willing to donate their time/knowledge into helping others acquire better genetic info. ,, this shows the right spirit full positive karma to you lost in a sea jah bless,,

 

[Crazy Composer]

We owe every toke we take to hermaphrodism. Without the ability to self-replicate during stressful growing seasons, cannabis would probably have gone extict eons ago. Just something to think about.

Pot that is bred to never reverse under any circumstances is probably lacking in other good traits. Pot that hermies too easily is not good, of course. I'd argue that, genetically, the plant that hermies due to considerable stress is where we want to be.

 

[JJScorpio]

best piece of advise would be to keep those blueberries away from the white russians, dutch passion sadly are a bit of a mess i cant tell you, i could but i wont, how many packs i have had of them only to be very sorry, no biggie though all blueberries out there seem to have a bit of hermie genes. throw a couple of feet of composte down for all, but especially the russians they will make you very happy,one of the strongest going, big central nug and a skunky white widowy taste , seriously some of the finest.Now i did say that im "not biased towards any seed company" but Arjan from greenhouse seeds is a silly dutch marketing man that calls himself "the king of cannabis" which goes against the ethics of what we all do a bit, despite this white rhino should be alright, he stole that strain from shanti of mr nice seeds who is a legend it may taste similar to the russians but i dont think theyl be as good. i cant quite see the white label pack sorta looks like something skunk so sweet taste and a medium high. Damn americans with your large open areas and sunny days, good luck

If you think you're going to continue this charade, you are sadly mistaken.

First of all you have an agenda by this post alone. Secondly your other posts dissing certain breeders and saying their seeds aren't good, when I have grown them and know better.

 

[guest123]

Hey look, i have not done a scientific study ok cannafriend? so no me and my laboratory buddies cant prove this fact to you with imperical, peer reviewed proof! ok im bothering to do this because 15+ years of growing this plant in an industrious manner seeking to try as many strains as possible, a degree in biology, and 10+ years of owning a legit nursery qualifies me to say what i know about plants.

ok a bit more reasonable thought- in any plant something that selfs its self is making seeds from its own (limited) genes, this retards any plants chromosomes, which i mentioned may be missing in part or some altogether, the greater a plants hybrid vigour and genetic range the less likely you are to ruin it but this only means your running less risk of creating a complete retard, this will happen in any plant species ok? its a bit like if you had a womb and girls genitalia as well as a mans, and you knocked yourself up would you expect your daughters to all be normal??
also to clarify all hermie plants in any species are un-natural retards, in nature they would be outcompeted genetically and not exist. cannabis has no regulating body(obviously) so people do what the fuck they want and dont expect someone to pick them up on it! well if we continue in this manner eventually all strains may get ruined as we push on into all this random modern day hybrids. if you make and sell seeds and your plants have hermie seeds in the middle, because you either have too many plants and didnt pick it up, or the nugs out grew late developing male flowers you fucked up ok? simple

and thank you berlinweed for making the good point that you can easily phrase things in a un-cynical manner! im not here to fuck you around dude, but you believe whatever the hell you want, i can tell your a real pro! so please dont let a fresh faced noob like myself teach you how to suck eggs! convoluting your thought processes and what not!

it may say im a new member but trust me, i have been here many times before, and its always people like yourself who would rarther chat shit than say something constructive that make me think that theres no hope for these forums, i dont need to be here for my sake, but i would have loved a bit of advice myself on many strains before i baught them. K+ to all the open minded people still here on ic

The vast majority of all flowering species on the planet are hermies as you call them, they have not been out-competed, they still exist, nor are they genetic "unnatural retards". It is probably the oldest of all mating systems, well proven, lol. You're in over your head professor.

 

[endlesssummer]

yeah, I'm waiting for a seedbank to offer a self-pollenating hybrid..

 

[JamieShoes]

I'm waiting for a pollen bank

 

[lost in a sea]

what the fuck are you guys talking about, cannabis was not saved during stressful breeding seasons eons ago by being hermies!??! what a load of complete rubbish, where do you get this crap??

somebody asked me what my 10 favourite strains were, and who my 10 favourite breeders, so i answered in my opinion dick head, i didnt start this thread to do that.

cannafriend- "the vast majority of all flowering species are hemies" what? yea they are if their meant to be - cannabis is a dioecious flowering species, meaning the plants are suppossed to be either male or female not monoecious, both, do your fucking home work troll

 

[lost in a sea]

all the hermies i have ever had where not to do with stress, this i have tested, how come always the same strains by the same breeders would herm and every other strain that i knew would be solid where?, now this, like the rest of stuff in this thread is my opinion. i may have said i would be unbiased, but its pritty fucking hard when someone asks me my opinion, which is why was here, to not give it. cannafriend go read a book and learn summit stop trolling people

 

[Crazy Composer]

You're out-of-line.

 

[lost in a sea]

great! why?