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Fuck bics and any other lighter for smoking Bud

minds_I

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sorry but if you can't taste the hint of butane from pulling a tube your smoking straight swagg.


every person I've shown it to in person has said the smoke tastes notably better as if they were using a vape.

Hello all,

If I can't taste the butane its because I am smoking schwagg. Yeah that explains it.

Perhaps everyone you have shwon this to is just trying to make you feel better about your purchase. Or maybe they are just gullable or they fear a foot stomping tantrum.

For me its no longer weither your ceramic heating element is better or not. Now I just love the arrogance.

Keep it up Tony. I am buckled in.

minds_I
 

Mr. Tony

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You need not post in here anymore. But I love the trolling guys, just keeps this thread near the top to help out more folks.
 

JohnnyATL

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i dont know how much of a difference there is either way, but i like my hakko presto alot. I press the button and it gets hot as fuck, and it lets you corner the bowl alot better.

whenever im smoking at my desk where i keep my bong i use it. i also use it to light blunts and joints as it is really easy too.
 

iGro4Me

The Hopeful Protagonist
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You need not post in here anymore. But I love the trolling guys, just keeps this thread near the top to help out more folks.


The irony in that statement is monumental.

Great Thread.....2 :thumbsup:

Would read again!
 

Bababooey

Horse-toothed Jackass
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Ill be honest, I bought a Hakko because of Mr. Tony, and I LOVE LOVE LOVE it with my bubblehash. Great taste, and burns smoother (my hash is hard to keep lit with an open flame).

But for smoking herb, I still use my torch lighter. Its more convenient, and I personally dont notice much difference in taste either way. Although, to be honest, my weed is not really GOOD-tasting; it's not bad or unduly harsh, but i definitely dont smoke it for the taste, only for the great high that it gives. :rasta: If anything, I like the lighter better because it burns the bud quicker, gives a bigger hit....

I guess some people have more sensitive taste buds. Some people become chefs because they're more attuned to subtle differences in flavors, where as for the majority of people if it tastes 'good' that's enough for them.
I'd also say that if you had weed or hash that really tasted good, you'd probably want to smoke it as purely as possible, especially if you were sensitive to the taste of butane.
That being said, I love my Hakko. Its so much more convenient than a glass rod. It's an essential piece of my regular smoking setup, right alongside the lighter... :joint:
I would recommend a stand for it. I keep mine in a holder for a different soldering iron. I cant imagine leaving it on a table turned on for hours; even if its not touching the table or rolling i got so much crap on my table Id be afraid ill leave for twenty minutes and come back to a roaring fire...
 

Joe Hawkins

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I know how to use a bic, still tastes bad, but hey if you smoke shwagg and can't taste it all the more power to ya.

So, by that logic, if I used something as primitive as a match, My Fat Ass AK-47, by default, would be leaf and stem, maybe a bit of seed?
 
C

CTSV

Actually, The best way to light something Cigars, Weed, Cigarettes, for the taste value, is with a piece of cedar...

I smoke so much weed, I don't have the time to turn it into a big production every time. I run two businesses, and have a LOT of folks that depend on me, so I am on the run ALL the time... That's why my glass stays so dirty.
 

Mr. Tony

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That being said, I love my Hakko. Its so much more convenient than a glass rod. It's an essential piece of my regular smoking setup, right alongside the lighter... :joint:

the more post i see like this the more I laugh at the haters. keep your hate train rolling.


ctsv you would be amazed how fast they can clean their bong with some course grain salt and some 99% iso.
 

Toob

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home made beeline and solar bowls with a magna page thats used for projector screens is all i try and use. the solar bowls with the magna page is my favorite way of smoking.
 

motaco

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I just read this whole thing and it's a joke.

Would you guys quit picking on the kid? You don't need to antagonize him. If you don't like it don't use it.

Look we all have different levels of proper smoking etiquette. Most of us won't smoke out a pop can anymore, but probably once did. I still know folks who only change their bong water every few days. Plenty more simply don't clean their pipes. To rinse with alcohol instead of scraping and smoking resin would be crazy. To others smoking out a dirty pipe is like drinking out of a dirty glass.

Just because you personally can't tell the difference between bic lighter fluid and another method doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A prime example is organic growers who think their pot doesn't need to be flushed since its all organic. They have pot that sizzles and pops, leaves crunchy black ash, burns your lips, etc and yet they totally believe their organic pot is as good as it gets. Just oblivious and are happy that way.

I personally use colibiri fluid with a small flame. I can POSITIVELY tell a huge difference between that and a bic or the rancid Ronson. Night and day and I started using it when I first discovered hash oil and was testing the purities of butane on clear panes of glass. I'm glad he posted this up and I'm no big fan of Mr. Tony. But I'll try this for around the house.

To those raggin him: Didn't your mother ever tell you if you don't have something nice to say don't say anything at all? I'm glad he posted it, several others bought it and are satisfied. So a job well done. If you don't want one then STFU. Quit antagonizing the kid and go look at something else.
 

Mr. Tony

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I'm confused You get the whole butane no butane argument but you don't get the whole glass thing. It's like I just paid a ton of cash for some super nice wine, why drink it out of a styrofoam cup when I could be using extremely nice china? I see it as I just bought the most legit bud in my area and the glass just adds to the experience
 

motaco

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No I get where you come from. I really do. I know you think I don't. But I do. I just think it's gay. Clean pipes and clean ignition for quality pot is one thing. That directly affects the taste and high you'll have. Your generations hard on for $500 dollar pipes is another.

I'll put it to you like this. Here in New Orleans we got a lot of thugs in Cadillacs and wearing ice. It makes them feel better about themselves. Girls 10k in debt sittin at the bus stop wearing gucci too. Not imitation.

Having a clean pipe and great pot is fine. But the whole ghetto fabulous crap is another. You're in college and hopefully you'll take a psychology class one day and learn why people do these things.

Till then you'll just have to understand when I look at guys like you and roor head with thousands of dollars in glass and spending lord only knows how much on commercial pot to build up collections it just strikes me as sad/gay. The whole time you're probably smoking in a dorm room, or in your parents house or somewhere they pay the bills at. It's very close to the guy riding back home to some crap hole in the projects in his escalade and jewelry.

It's just todays materialistic society. You'll let a company change the way you feel over BS. They sell you thousands of dollars of shit you don't need with money you don't have and people brag about it. As if you're jealous. Or that the house of cards propping them up is a stable foundation.

This whole designer line of pipes and the crap that goes with it is a joke. If you honestly have less fun smoking perfect pot out of clean glass because of the quality of the diffuser or that the glass came from china then you have a companies propaganda so far up your ass they are using you for a puppet.

In your defense you are young. Just like some young kids think the asshole riding back into the projects in a escalade is "dope boy fresh". Eventually they'll see what a waste and how sad it is.
 

Mr. Tony

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No I get where you come from. I really do. I know you think I don't. But I do. I just think it's gay. Clean pipes and clean ignition for quality pot is one thing. That directly affects the taste and high you'll have. Your generations hard on for $500 dollar pipes is another.

*I smoke from a headie worked tube that cost me less than the price of a few german roor diffusers for a worked crown, worked base, worked marble, work bowl, worked diffuser all matching*


I'll put it to you like this. Here in New Orleans we got a lot of thugs in Cadillacs and wearing ice. It makes them feel better about themselves. Girls 10k in debt sittin at the bus stop wearing gucci too. Not imitation.


*Yeah thats called N***A rich*

Having a clean pipe and great pot is fine. But the whole ghetto fabulous crap is another. You're in college and hopefully you'll take a psychology class one day and learn why people do these things.


*ghetto fabulous? I've taken a basic psych class as part of my gen ed classes. we gone slightly into this topic but not as much as my marketing class did*

Till then you'll just have to understand when I look at guys like you and roor head with thousands of dollars in glass and spending lord only knows how much on commercial pot to build up collections it just strikes me as sad/gay. The whole time you're probably smoking in a dorm room, or in your parents house or somewhere they pay the bills at. It's very close to the guy riding back home to some crap hole in the projects in his escalade and jewelry.


*Please don't compare me to roor head, I buy and sell glass on the side for fun and for a little extra coin. I'm not in a dorm room, I'm in my bedroom of a rather nice house i rent with a couple buddies*

It's just todays materialistic society. You'll let a company change the way you feel over BS. They sell you thousands of dollars of shit you don't need with money you don't have and people brag about it. As if you're jealous. Or that the house of cards propping them up is a stable foundation.

* I don't let companies rule me. Though when I see a product I like and have used and enjoy the outcome more than another product, I'll stand up for it*


This whole designer line of pipes and the crap that goes with it is a joke. If you honestly have less fun smoking perfect pot out of clean glass because of the quality of the diffuser or that the glass came from china then you have a companies propaganda so far up your ass they are using you for a puppet.


*oh I don't have any less fun I just prefer the quality product. I gladly hit my room mates prodo spoon when it gets passed to me*

In your defense you are young. Just like some young kids think the asshole riding back into the projects in a escalade is "dope boy fresh". Eventually they'll see what a waste and how sad it is.

* yes I'm young. I realize that people waste a ton of money on stupid shit when they have priorities that really should matter to them*

I honestly think you have me very mistaken.

The color button wouldn't work for me so I put my responses in * *. I don't currently own a roor. Though I have owned a few in the past. I just don't like it when people say an inferior product is just as good.


I do plan on picking up a couple super headie slides for 4/20 as well as some crazy weed to put in them
 

motaco

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well I apologize I always see you and roor head talking constantly in the other thread and I thought you two were basically in the same boat.

At any rate you can see where I'm coming from. When people get all goofy like there are huge differences between these top of the line pieces or you're going to have a subpar high because you suffered the indignity of chinese glass or some nonsense it just gets under my skin. It's stupid and it goes on forever. I used to love the "post your bubbler, bong, pipe" whatever thread but it's unreadable now, its full of that BS for pages and pages now.
 

Mr. Tony

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See it's not that I care when people talk about their sub par piece like it the quality of a german roor. It's like a guy who drives a for crown victoria saying his vehicle is no different than a brand new BMW 750Li. ya dig?
 
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Anybody thinking of getting one, just realize to expect some lemons. I have gone thru 2 and the last one was used about 10 days. Be sure to keep all parts taken off- so you can try to refund/exchange for a new one. I am done with them, bics are quicker, more reliable, and safer (anyone that left one of these on for a night/day is very, very lucky!). THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
Thanks,
mycall

ps both were model N454JN-V12 25Watt
 

Mr. Tony

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yes the elements are relatively fragile but i mean fuck i've dropped mine numerous times and it still works....
 
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yes the elements are relatively fragile but i mean fuck i've dropped mine numerous times and it still works....

well then you obviously didn't get a "lemon". No dropping here, no bumps, no trauma. Lots o' sparks.
peace,
mycall
 

CannaExists

Paint Your DreamStrain
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Mine has had some problems, I'd plug it in and it wouldn't heat up, I don't know what the problem was but after I plugged it out, kinda fiddled with the ceramic part, and plugged it back in it was back to working fine again.
 
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