Are there "Extinct" strains?

[panjo]

the real deal road kill skunk is gone. light green color, hard buds, light and sounds like a rock when you drop it on the table. nice orange pistols. and the smell........ the folks who say they have it now have never experienced the real skunk. havnt seen it since the mid/early 80s.

 

[nite]

most of the old SSSC varieties are gone
how about Mexican Fur Coat? Anyone still have it?
on that poster I think the only commercial strains are the Dutch Treat and the Skyscraper. Skyscraper/Highrise is another name for Masterkush

 

[Londinium]

I just had a bunch of seed's returned to me from the 90's(some of which have been to the other side of the world and back)by a re-aquaintance I never thought I'd see again. It contains amongst other stuff many diff seeds of some of my own and my crew's work from '90-'99 that I thought were 'extinct'....due to having some of my own seed collection stolen in a burglary around the Millenium.
But even the stolen seeds I beleived 'Extinct' may have been grown by someone else without my knowledge and could remain as mum's or seed's of pure or crossed versions for all I know,with diff names etc....So its a hard thing to judge in reality.
The strain I'll alway's pine for was 'PurplePineapple' a lost UK clone-only but its present in part in a few v.old seeds of crosses that may germ with some luck(none so far),then maybe I can find something close to satisfy my desire... JBo

 

[cannabowl]

Many thanks and be talking to you soon.

canna

Nice cannabowl. Good to see someone refuses to let something go 'extinct'. Your statement about not being able to ever find the 2.0's or 1.0's again is exactly what I was talking about. Most certainly "someone" is running these genetics...but there are none of the "original beans". For all intensive purposes, at least some of the genes are still kicking around...but highly inaccessible....
Of course there'll be the inevitable crosses and back-crosses....but as we've discussed in this thread: it's not quite the same thing.
In either event, please do drop me a PM as you hit your 50 mark. Some + rep. for ya in the interim.

 

[monkeykush]

monkey paw lives

monkey paw lives

I have some of these beans. Termed monkey paw. Colors were purple and white flowers on the flowers of the males no gals. Super strong smell and smoke. The male leaf had me stuck. The girls must be something serious stuff. I did a killa kush monkey paw cross. . Ppd

 

[Londinium]

P.P. is only half extinct!

P.P. is only half extinct!

Some good news..... PurplePineapple the strain I referred to earlier in the thread is at least still in existence as half of a cross in the shape of PP x Skaze which is one of the successes I had in my recent germ runs of old returned seeds. Skaze was a cross betwen a gorgeous 9 week Cali skunk Girly called Skelter(now also extinct in its pure form)and P.Haze'90(a 12 weeker cross between Haze and an unknown Purps from London Bagseed...also extinct in its pure form to my knowledge) JBo

 

[ngakpa]

are we talking about hybrids or traditional landrace cultivars?

Thailand is an example of a place where concerted eradication efforts have caused a lot of strains to either become extinct or get very close to extinction

 

[crownedsparrow]

ok Londiniom, I suppose I'll be the first to say that you should grow out all those seeds man! that is a gateway to untarnished strains! good luck bro!

 

[johnipedestran]

wow
great thread access


londinium love the look of those long locks. that is one cool plant. hope you enjoy it.

the collection of seeds you showed before is amazing, the story behind it even better.

I remember Skunk#1 from the late 80's. It was the first "expando" herb I ever smoked, forget about that bomb it dropped on you.

peace
jip

 

[Verdi99]

Yes we have extinct strains,Northern Lights.It cant be found anywhere.We have strains called northern lights but they are not.....Verdi99

 

[accessndx]

Glad to see this thread is still alive and kickin. Keep on keepin' on. :friends:

 

[Suby]

It doesn't matter what is gone and extinct because the media has told me that all the old time hippie weed was only 1/20th as powerful as the stuff is today. That means they were smoking like 1% thc and less weed, and getting high off the lack of oxygen more than anything.

I mean, the LEO and media wouldn't have an agenda and be lying to the public about such important matters. Would they?

I know this post was meant as a joke but it brings about a good question in my mind.
Most brick weed is junky, not very potent, stems and seeds and sub par weed but some growers have grown those seeds out into very good plants.
Does this mean that those tests are bunk, could the spreading of cultivation techniques and products have just maximized a potential that was there all along?
We know for fact there was good weed floating around even 50+ years ago, probably different though because there was alot of hash in the scene, my oldtimer friends all reminisce about certain types of hash more than strains of weed.
I mean you can grow top shelf genetics and still end up with crap buds if you don't know what your doing.

Plus the ganja world is rooted in hype, remembering how stoned some stash got you 10+ years ago is pretty subjective.
I'm not an expert on genetics or pot history it's just a random though.

Great great thread dude

 

[Weedman Herb]

The potency thing is a joke ... there was Plenty of high percentage THC weed back in the day. Keep this in mind ... They only tested what was snagged at a border or in Transit. They just weren't catching the good weed. What we are experiencing is Hybrid Vigor. This is when the product of a non similar mating surpasses the growth rate, concentration of essential oils and overall potency of its parents. The other end of the spectrum is Inbred Depression ... (less potent, slow growing, possibly mutated, showing inconsistent traits, etc.).The brickweed issue is one of handling ... was it picked too early? Dried proper? Did the trash compactor squeeze the oils from the seeds (the cause of that Brickweed Flavor) and did that hemp seed oil permeate the weed? Was it transported during hot weather? Considering those factors and more it isn't a big surprise that brickweed sucks and the bagseed from said brickweed could produce some nice weed. Chances are ... before the mishandling ... that brickweed was or had the potential to be nice weed too.

 

[MedResearcher]

the real deal road kill skunk is gone. light green color, hard buds, light and sounds like a rock when you drop it on the table. nice orange pistols. and the smell........ the folks who say they have it now have never experienced the real skunk. havnt seen it since the mid/early 80s.

Alot of it was destroyed/lost when Camp/Big Brother came in the 80's. Although there are a handful of families that still have it. I saw some about two years ago, just the trim was better then most buds you see. Been trying to get a hold of it with no success. Im talking about the super back woods of Nor Cal, places where people who have lived in Cali there entire lives have never, will never, visit or even hear of^^

 

[aligee]

Just read this whole thread! Interesting to hear about these strains as i love variety! This plant we all know of is indeed superior to all plant species regardless of name/strain all unique in itself. Good info fellas
::::::liG:::::::

 

[Suby]

Cool, thanks for respondin WH.

 

[KottonMouth]

some american strains like the RKS are held by hilly billys in mountain towns. where the people could give two fucks less about whats going outside of their little colonizes. so not exactly extincted, but wont be spread. and im sure there are these types of situations all over the world.

 

[GrüneErd]

this thread is amazing. i also think 'extinct' is only determined (right now) from the point of view of individuals, instead of some sort of commitee with vast resources and employees to research, investigate, dig-up, and propagate certain "dwindling" lines. like a historical cannabis commitee. and we know thats VERY FAR from happening on a scale like mentioned above.

this leaves many to speculate about strains. for instance, while in Lahaina, Maui, i bought about 100 seeds (on a whim, and for only $50. the potential made me do it) from a homeless man on the beach that sold me some KILLER bud. this bud was my first experience with maui dank, so of course i asked "damn man, got any seeds i could get off you?" he said "yeah i got some seeded bud the other day, i'll go back to where we camp and get em." met him hours later, purchased the seeds, flew back to the southern US a few days later, and have just started growin em out this year. (and they're sativa-leaning gems let me tell you, can't wait to chief em!)

this being said, if these happen to be seeds from a plant of grower on maui (which is likely) and are of a strain he/she values, any number of things could've wiped out this entire lineage for him/her between the time i left the island and now.
so do you not think this person, having no knowledge of me, WOULD or WOULD NOT consider their strain extinct (if none of their friends have it)?

a lot is point of view, which is many people's views coming together to establish an answer; very effective. you can see why we may never know for sure where certain strains are/went...but this thread sure helps
just thought i'd share. sorry it's long.
peace

 

[Londinium]

I have just had that experience exactly GrüneErd. I thought most of the stuff in those jars of mine was gone (at least in the forms I knew) but they have been sitting somewhere all that time and fate brought them back. So I'm sure something similar can happen with Roadkill and many other missed cultivars with hope and a li'l luck.
I've been compiling lists recently(for the sake of my memory) of all strains I've grown crossed and been in posession of via other Dusters work and Its shocked me how many diff pheno's and strains I've known and lost in 20 yrs of cultivation.....But a mum room to keep all the strains I'd like to keep is space that I don't have rite now,worst luck ,so lost strains and culling(and I've culled more than a few)are all a form of nature and evolution imho!
None of us miss the strains we didn't get on with but someone else may have loved them.I've probably culled many girls and boys that another breeder would have kept so its a hard one to judge really!
Just to re-assure u crownedsparrow et al... I will get ALL those seeds germed in the next year Inshallah! JBo@Urbn-Trchmlgy.

 

[PondeLftHndSide]

DJ's Blue Heaven. At least extinct enough for me to seriously doubt I'll ever find another cut.