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2 Peruvian golds from deep in the #jungle of the Amazon rain forest in atalaya where #chocolate originated.


my guess is this pure #landrace #columbiangold came to the region with #coca producers from #Columbia in the 80s when the columbian government cracked down on cartels and they moved to #peru and #Bolivia where to my knowledge has been untouched since


there is a diversity from chocolate, woods and #roadkillskunk. very pungent either way. but looking for the skunkers for my road-kill project I revived last year after taking a 10 year break.


#medmanbrand #lordofloud #loudskunk #skunk

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I've smoked and smelled pure haze in Holland. Flying Dutchman.

I grew some Hawaiian "haze" as well. Its in the video if you watch it. Still have 3 lines direct from a indigenous elder there. The Hawaiian had a more zest soap smell though. Haze will usually cut thru any terps. Like I said. There a spectrum some more leather. Some more spice. Some more sharp Citrus. Def a dank ammonia cat piss smell lingering too. Its not hard to decipher.

It's quite dominant in most if not all crosses. Even coming thru the bottm end it still breeds pretty true. Dominating the top of most if not all crosses.

3 Hawaiian I got were true lr. The other was a hybrid made by the elder
and skunk of course?? lol ...
 
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Looks like colombian red has some hybrid action innit.

Not alot but it's there


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and skunk of course?? lol ...
Hey d.

I agree with what you said about possible fuckery on phylos. 110%

But we can quell it with proper tracking. I'm still learning how to understand phyloverse. But if we use a solid member as a starting point....we can use their data to trace stuff.

Fuckery aside....people do use it for legitimacy too. Like ace. Especially if he has images or videos of him going to collect them.

Thinking of you I went to aces thai. Safe to say it's pure. Like 99.5% pure. Which is awesome.

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Closest relative is Lao

99.% pure or so

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So we can deduce both specimens are quite pure / legit right

I think it's safe to say that people do really care about what they are buying...just as importantly as legit companies wanting to verify what they are selling is legit.

If we trust ace entered a thai landrace. He now has the data to back it up. Giving him and the buyer more confidence right?
 
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yea i think it has uses for sure ,
im just not sure its totally reliable is all ,
i can see why guys like sam and rob endorsed it initially ,
it could be fantastic and a very valuable resource/library of information,
just has a few glitches ..
 

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yea i think it has uses for sure ,
im just not sure its totally reliable is all ,
i can see why guys like sam and rob endorsed it initially ,
it could be fantastic and a very valuable resource/library of information,
just has a few glitches ..
Ya man

It can be used for good....just as much for evil and accident do happen in between both poles right?

Like ace can now basically sell any seeds if he wanted and call them thai with the data. Or his seed supplier.

That's where trust meets confidence. Or vs
 

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I've long had one theory about skunk weed being a Mexican (possible hybdrid) x afghani or pre soviet hashplant. Rafa is known to have got these hashplants and bred them in sinoaloa before moving south.

It's based on the sinaloans hybdridizing strains to take to Buffalo ranch outside of Guadalajara producing billions of dollars worth of the world's first commercial sensimilla.

This theory can be verified in many of my posts and private msgs going way back.

Well. Ace seeds oaxaca 79 if thats what it Is supports part of it.

I can possibly be proof of it

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Relatives can narrow down any loose threads
 

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I finally found the "fast" pheno joint I hid on myself before going to Vancouver for Xmas

Smell- a dominant cola top end. Maybe a small dash of spice with the classic sprite zest (lemon lime) hidden in the bottom dash of earth
Taste dry haul - mostly real craft Cola not the junk
Taste smoked - exactly like the smell just add some more earth and campfire
Effect - very strong head again. Subtle body. Imagine espresso and nicotine. A sharp almost clairvoyance and heightened senses. Heart is pretty level. Not much race with this one

I can maybe see how people could call THIS pheno sandalwood....as a blanket profile. But its very easily dissected Into subtle nuances. Tastes great down to the nub. Terps are funny creatures. You may not pin them down until someone mentions it. If there is any in the other phenos. It burried deep in the bottom. They all radiated strong lime, haze, skunk tops in the
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Going to be sprouting the rest soon. They call my island the Hawaii of Canada after a week of winter we are already getting daffodils and other shoots coming up.
 

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oaxaca 79
was an Oaxaca
the clone sure looked all sativa but I dunno where the “79” part came from?
have not grown any of the ace selfed s1’s..
but the s1’s of the clone are varied and interesting
one was 20 + week that had huge long skinny leaves smelled of very strong lemon pledge
and was one of those pearls on a stick phenos..
others were more manageable
and displayed possible wld traits..
 

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From one of the godfathers of breeding and seed sales and seedcret sowciety affiliate

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9)]picture of Nevils Haze 21 from his grail project. This is the best Haze plant Nevil ever found. There is a narrative going around saying that the original Hazes Nevil grew were pure Colombians. Not true. Anyone who has grown the various Colombian lines knows the difference. The real menthol Haze profile comes from Southeast Asia. It was probably crossed to a red Colombian or Panama to create the Hazes we know and love today once it arrived in California. There is a "Colombian Haze" floating around which they call Original Haze. This is not the Original Haze Nevil used in his breeding, just a story to sell seeds. The Hazes Nevil used in the Seed Bank breeding were the Original 69 Haze. The real 69 Haze would have been lost for good if Nevil hadn't got those old seeds going.
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really thats not an accurate statement ,
there was no 69 haze given to nevil ,

only seed sam made , and they werent from 69 ,
he said himself , the guys he called haze brothers didnt make much seed ,
it was scarce , and he wouldnt give any of it away as a result ...

these things have been debated over and over and u can see answers to a lot of these questions etc in big herbs thread about haze ...
 

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really thats not an accurate statement ,
there was no 69 haze given to nevil ,

only seed sam made , and they werent from 69 ,
he said himself , the guys he called haze brothers didnt make much seed ,
it was scarce , and he wouldnt give any of it away as a result ...

these things have been debated over and over and u can see answers to a lot of these questions etc in big herbs thread about haze ...
He verifies that sam gave haze seeds to nevil.

This is where seeds, brands and strains run a muck....like calling sk1 skunk #1 to ride a trend.

The point he is making in the dialog backs up Sam's story becuase it's what he told nevil
 

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go read the thread i mentioned ,,
sam said himself there were very few seeds from his mates ,
he kept them all and made more ,

then sold some to nevil ,
no need for us to debate it ,, just rehashing old stuff that isnt needed to be rehashed ,
go read the thread man ,
you may come away somewhat enlightened ....
 

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go read the thread i mentioned ,,
sam said himself there were very few seeds from his mates ,
he kept them all and made more ,

then sold some to nevil ,
no need for us to debate it ,, just rehashing old stuff that isnt needed to be rehashed ,
go read the thread man ,
you may come away somewhat enlightened ....
Coolio

Thanks for the share! I really appreciate it

Some side notes.

- There's 1 or 2 locked up abroad shows that feature surfers on the west coast of Mexico smuggling premium mexican cannabis around the same time
- nev 100% got his beans from Sam....no debate
- 150 pounds is nothing compared to the loads brought in or vs what the market demanded. But def enough to make a name for a line. Do you know the population of New England! That would evaporate in a day or 2 lol

This I found extremely Interwsting

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