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Tom Hill Haze

Rurumo

Active member
It's not the old heads that have issues with what TH posts. Old fuckers like myself don't care and ignore the rants easily. Ive been here a long time and it's obvious most people have changed. It sure isn't about being kind anymore. The cancel future is in full effect. People base friendships on who you follow on IG lol. People's feelings get in their way when someone does something they don't like.
I agree 100%. I've been taking a break from all forums due to health reasons, but i decided to lurk in my favorite sativa threads today and I'm aggravated by what I've seen in this thread lately. I won't give excuses for Tom's behavior, which he received deserved short-term bans for, but I absolutely disagree with a perma-ban. I see very few old heads complaining about Tom. This thread is literally titled "Tom Hill Haze", if anyone is consistently offended by Tom, just avoid the thread. It would be sad for a lot of folks here to ban Tom before they can buy their seeds from his preservation run. Tom makes me mad sometimes too, but good grief people, grow some thicker skin and have some compassion for a fellow human being-you don't know his struggles.
 

William76

Well-known member
I agree 100%. I've been taking a break from all forums due to health reasons, but i decided to lurk in my favorite sativa threads today and I'm aggravated by what I've seen in this thread lately. I won't give excuses for Tom's behavior, which he received deserved short-term bans for, but I absolutely disagree with a perma-ban. I see very few old heads complaining about Tom. This thread is literally titled "Tom Hill Haze", if anyone is consistently offended by Tom, just avoid the thread. It would be sad for a lot of folks here to ban Tom before they can buy their seeds from his preservation run. Tom makes me mad sometimes too, but good grief people, grow some thicker skin and have some compassion for a fellow human being-you don't know his struggles.

Are you saying we shoulhave waited till we got the seeds then banned him? Lol,j,76
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
If what TH posts bothers people that is what the ignore function is for. It never turns bad until someone engages Tom which just makes it worse.

What we do IRL should have far more weight, a person's actions speak far more to me.
 
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Old Uncle Ben

Well-known member
This is why I constantly suggest psychedelics. Helps get us all on the same page.

Hmmmm, got be careful, and you may learn the hard way like I did.

This isn't a "we" thing either. To each his own.

I've done my share of psychedelics, you name it - great acid back in the 60's, field harvested peyote and shrooms and unless used judiciously, infrequently, (which I didn't) it can really screw you up. College went to hell for example until I backed off. I was a heavy weight regarding pot too, starting many a college day high. Take it from an old timer at 73 years old, this chronic high stuff doesn't work. Good friend of mine, older fellow, got the worse case of throat cancer you can imagine being a chronic pot (not cig) smoker all his life. Side effects of his chemo treatments was teeth and gum disintegration.

These days an ounce or 2 of homegrown will last me and my girlfriend a year. Some of that being cause it takes so little to get me "smooth".

Sure, there are many corporate health firms experimenting with psychedelic drugs for treatment of mental issues such as PTSD, depression, anxiety.....but it's still a pretty new field of study and the clinical treatments are done under the supervision of doctors. Being a stock trader I've followed a few. https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/healthcare/psychedelic-stocks/

Stay safe,
Uncle Ben
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Ketamine is/has become a pretty common treatment for depression. Soon it will be an at home medication if not already..Ketamine vap pens are easy to find here.

In 2019, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the use of an esketamine nasal spray called Spravato for treatment-resistant depression. Esketamine is a more potent form of ketamine. Research has shown that esketamine can significantly reduce depression symptoms — relief that can last weeks after treatment ends.
 

daleharris

Active member
I agree 100%. I've been taking a break from all forums due to health reasons, but i decided to lurk in my favorite sativa threads today and I'm aggravated by what I've seen in this thread lately. I won't give excuses for Tom's behavior, which he received deserved short-term bans for, but I absolutely disagree with a perma-ban. I see very few old heads complaining about Tom. This thread is literally titled "Tom Hill Haze", if anyone is consistently offended by Tom, just avoid the thread. It would be sad for a lot of folks here to ban Tom before they can buy their seeds from his preservation run. Tom makes me mad sometimes too, but good grief people, grow some thicker skin and have some compassion for a fellow human being-you don't know his struggles.
So people are supposed to show “compassion” for HIM but the way he gets off on shitting on anyone at will is OK ? I don’t read or watch this thread despite knowing it exists simply because he is a dick and I just avoid anything about him. HOWEVER after having to endure his childish shit slinging simply to read other forms is tiresome. I was pleased to read on another forum he got permanently banned here but it won’t last and I’m sure I’m not the only one who wonders who’s weak and lets him back. He and his small fandom group are mad but hey even Charlie Manson had groupies.
 

StickyBandit

Well-known member
Is an ascension something that gets you high hehe?

I think you mean accession (something that has been acquired), not ascension (the process of moving upward). Though reproduction would have been more appropriate in this case.

Don't mean to be a dick. But the tiger can't change it's stripes I guess hehe. And hey lets not let incorrect use of terminology spread. Soon everyone will mix up the two otherwise..
I'm right their with ya bro (y)
 

StickyBandit

Well-known member
I dunno man, maybe on the internet that you're using to communicate that ignorant thought? The roads you drive on, the fire departments we use, the police departments we use, public education. The entire USDA seed program that sent people around the world to collect seeds and who built the backbone of the US corn and soy industries? There's an endless list, but it doesn't jive with your ridiculous insecure snowflake attitude.

If you think agricultural certificates are some ridiculous government overreach you're ignorant of the world you actually live in.
Monsanto :whistling:
 

thugpoet

Active member
Honestly, it's bizarre. Tom doesn't act that way on other forums (and didn't on here for basically 20 years). He was even personal friends with Gypsy.
Out of nowhere, it's like all screws broke loose. There is clearly a part of the story we are not getting.

But at the same time, you can't expect to get into it with the Admin and Mods on a forum on multiple occasions and not get banned.

It also seemed like he was either intentionally trying to get himself banned repeatedly or displaying some sort of unconscious auto-destructive tendency.

Ultimately, it feels like the community as a whole is the loser here.

It feels especially bad if you had arranged a seed deal with Tom via PM. It seems like he is spiteful too. Haven't had any luck getting a response since he had come back in June and now it seems like we can pretty much forget about it.

Everybody give your seed allocation to @MadMac and give him a greenhouse too so he has proper space to work'em. :greenstars:

Cannamicably,

Thug :smoker:
 

ost

Well-known member
Honestly, it's bizarre. Tom doesn't act that way on other forums (and didn't on here for basically 20 years). He was even personal friends with Gypsy.
Out of nowhere, it's like all screws broke loose. There is clearly a part of the story we are not getting.

But at the same time, you can't expect to get into it with the Admin and Mods on a forum on multiple occasions and not get banned.

It also seemed like he was either intentionally trying to get himself banned repeatedly or displaying some sort of unconscious auto-destructive tendency.

Ultimately, it feels like the community as a whole is the loser here.

It feels especially bad if you had arranged a seed deal with Tom via PM. It seems like he is spiteful too. Haven't had any luck getting a response since he had come back in June and now it seems like we can pretty much forget about it.

Everybody give your seed allocation to @MadMac and give him a greenhouse too so he has proper space to work'em. :greenstars:

Cannamicably,

Thug :smoker:
the only thing, i have noticed about people over the years , someone can be bad sick and not know it ,they will do things completely out of character for themselves.i am only 68 just something i've noticed over time!
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
@thugpoet, Tom is a member of the other site (BB), not sure if it's allowed to be mentioned. I think someone said he's on IG as well so may be able to be contacted that way.

I honestly think he just pushed things too far here and was given plenty of chances. He has some great qualities and comes across well in podcasts, but here at least he just came to pick arguments. It was tedious to see in real time and mods have cleaned up a lot which some may have missed.

I'll stick with the hazes I have and other sativa varieties. Honestly, some of the individuals that are prominent in haze threads have nearly put me off haze.
 

ost

Well-known member
@thugpoet, Tom is a member of the other site (BB), not sure if it's allowed to be mentioned. I think someone said he's on IG as well so may be able to be contacted that way.

I honestly think he just pushed things too far here and was given plenty of chances. He has some great qualities and comes across well in podcasts, but here at least he just came to pick arguments. It was tedious to see in real time and mods have cleaned up a lot which some may have missed.

I'll stick with the hazes I have and other sativa varieties. Honestly, some of the individuals that are prominent in haze threads have nearly put me off haze.
very true
 

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