jamaican "lambsbread"

[Roms]

I am almost certain the early LB was just some good southern Indian weed, that may have been selected somewhat, and adapted to the island of Jamaica, for whatever that may have changed it. Most likely no big change, just very high quality Indian pot grown in Jamaica. Marley talks of having a hard time finding 'real LB' mid/late seventies. Book I read, 'Smugglers Ghost', says the smuggler gave indica seeds to the Jamaican growers to up potency and yield. They loved the result as they were in it for money. This was still in early/mid seventies.

Ya Yesum i think to not forget the maybe Ethiopian highlands intermediate influence between Hindi and Jamaica, and of course all the love and selection evolution from rasta farmers.

(The NLDA spectrum is large from 14 to 24 weeks of flo according climatic conditions, latitude and altitude, the declination of different properties and effects is also like proportional)

 

[yesum]

I think the original 'Lambsbread' was indeed just a very good Indian line. They called their pot collie, A take off of Kali. Over time, anything was possible. The genetic changes were rapid and early as I said. The Ethiopian I grew was not at all like the Jamaican I grew. Two different effects, the Ethiopian being a lot more mellow.

I am still going with the original LB being simply a great Indian line, or lines. The people in charge of growing most of the pot there, and also selecting, were not hard core rasta types. They were profit oriented and at times violent. The main grower on the island that the smuggler in my book dealt with, was having a snitch beat to death. The smuggler intervened. Another main grower and exporter in the late seventies was murdered on the island. He was a 'rasta'.

I hear a lot on this forum of Jah and such when dealing with Jamaica. The truth is not in favor of that for the most part. Same in Mexico. The gangs get ahold of stuff and it goes from there. The origins are nice and spiritual. It tends to go downhill from there fast. BOEL is another I think. Idealistic at the beginning. Not so sure of them but it seems they devolved into profit motivated activity. Nothing wrong with making a buck. Everyone needs to eat, but a bit sad what happened with some of the early and special lines getting polluted or going away somehow.

 

[willydread]

Authentic Jamaican sativas have been handpicked by sugarcane and fruit plantation workers, starting with Indian sativas ...You have to put yourself in their shoes, if you have to work all day do you prefer energizing or narcotic strains? If you look closely in the documentaries, in the videos (especially from many years ago) you will see Jamaicans with the spliff always in their mouth, but this does not mean that they smoke all day:they do a big spliff, and every now and then they take a few hits, if you smoke real ganjah like this you will have a lot of energy, and you will be slightly high, euphoric...
By increasing the dosage a little it becomes stronger, ideal for smoking at the end of the day, or like the Rastas, load up a good "chalice" and share it with the other "Breddahs" ...

 

[willydread]

Towards the end of the 70s the first hybrids with the Afghans arrive, and it is the period when Jamaica slips into great social turmoil, but the Jamaican sativas were created almost a century earlier ....
Much of the income of Pinnacle, the first Rastafari community, was due to the sale of ganjah ....

 

[Sub24ox7]

I need to get some Jamaican seed for surei have my eye on your Jamaican line @Roms! I will grow your Swazi after the o. Haze finishes. I remember Jamaican pot having a lot of energy.

 

[willydread]

I forgot :it's a collie weed, not a Kali weed, Jamaican people call the Indian immigrants "collie", as well as "Syrian" Middle Eastern immigrants, they are nicknames given to various ethnic group...

 

[willydread]

About BOEL is the same for other groups, both religious and political: when these movements are born they are motivated by noble ideals (if you are lucky enough to know one of the original members you would probably discover that they are adorable and noble-hearted people), then a violent members are infiltrated ...
Same thing for Rasta group...
You have never heard of ethiopian zion coptic church? A criminals under clothes of Rasta....

 

[yesum]

Authentic Jamaican sativas have been handpicked by sugarcane and fruit plantation workers, starting with Indian sativas ...You have to put yourself in their shoes, if you have to work all day do you prefer energizing or narcotic strains? If you look closely in the documentaries, in the videos (especially from many years ago) you will see Jamaicans with the spliff always in their mouth, but this does not mean that they smoke all day:they do a big spliff, and every now and then they take a few hits, if you smoke real ganjah like this you will have a lot of energy, and you will be slightly high, euphoric...
By increasing the dosage a little it becomes stronger, ideal for smoking at the end of the day, or like the Rastas, load up a good "chalice" and share it with the other "Breddahs" ...

They only had to use the seeds from the all energizing Indian lines as they already were. All my Indian lines are like that. No selecting really needed. They also did not inhale fully or at all on each puff.

 

[xet]

I am almost certain the early LB was just some good southern Indian weed

Makes sense. Early on Jam weed was all Colombian so it would make sense heavier buds would be desired.

 

[willydread]

They only had to use the seeds from the all energizing Indian lines as they already were. All my Indian lines are like that. No selecting really needed. They also did not inhale fully or at all on each puff.

It is a particular way of smoking, they let the smoke come out of the mouth to be inhaled by the nostrils, it is a different way to smoke ....

P. S. There is always selection, a good farmer always keeps the seeds of the best grass ....

 

[willydread]

Makes sense. Early on Jam weed was all Colombian so it would make sense heavier buds would be desired.

Colombian weed arrived in Jamaica long after Indian varieties ...

 

[yesum]

It is a particular way of smoking, they let the smoke come out of the mouth to be inhaled by the nostrils, it is a different way to smoke ....

P. S. There is always selection, a good farmer always keeps the seeds of the best grass ....

Ok, I was just repeating what I read of some big time pot smugglers who were white, but were of the Rasta religion and lived in Florida. No mention of inhaling thru the nose. They smoked all day, so I would think the lungs need a rest?!! Willie Nelson anyone? hehe Also mentioned was that they were really totally sober by all appearances. Tolerance. I never understood smoking all day like Snoop or B Real. They might get high on the first joint of the day, but after that, just feeling mellow I think.

 

[flower~power]

The imported commercial Jamaican in the 70s an East Coast in USA was only slightly better than Mexican imported brick

 

[willydread]

Ok, I was just repeating what I read of some big time pot smugglers who were white, but were of the Rasta religion and lived in Florida. No mention of inhaling thru the nose. They smoked all day, so I would think the lungs need a rest?!! Willie Nelson anyone? hehe Also mentioned was that they were really totally sober by all appearances. Tolerance. I never understood smoking all day like Snoop or B Real. They might get high on the first joint of the day, but after that, just feeling mellow I think.

If I smoke Jamaican Weed all the day I become like Peter pan, flying high, high, lol

 

[yesum]

I forgot but these Rasta guys exhaled thru the nose without inhaling. I do the same when my lungs are not up to the job. It results in a milder high, but I do get high.

 

[flower~power]

How much THC can actually get into your body if you don’t inhale?

 

[Roms]

Chalice A Fe Burn ^^


From Highland Ethiopia to blue hills of Jamaica

 

[Roms]

How much THC can actually get into your body if you don’t inhale?

By capillarity into the nose, direct into the brain! Well well inhale before too ^^ Like with Hindi chillum BoOm ShiVa!

 

[Roms]

 

[yesum]

The imported commercial Jamaican in the 70s an East Coast in USA was only slightly better than Mexican imported brick

Same happened with Colombian after early seventies. Best Colombo was sixties, from satva not me. He was smoking all the best stuff from sixties into seventies. He said Acapulco Gold was gone by '72.

Lots of the Colombo was rather bland but tended to have a good potency to it. Mass production ruined a once elite product. The sixties seedless Colombo was mostly super energetic to the point of being bothersome, hehe. satva saying this not me. I am quite sure the early Jamaican was similar. rocket fuel.