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"gun violence"
- Thread starter armedoldhippy
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How do you buy your guns? It isn’t all drug money. There aren’t drug dealers on every corner because who would buy all the drugs. It’s been years since I lived in Coachella. Years since I’ve walked through Watts in the middle of the night. I do dare to say it’s the same now as it was then. Like in the country, there’s a few trouble makers. Some shoot each other. Some shoot at the innocent. It’s too easy to get a gun and play cowboy. There is no need to carry one. That’s just paranoia.
Petrochemical
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Dude stfu with your advice lmaop
You sound smart.
don't think you need one? you may be right. do you buy car insurance or life insurance? why? i mean, you don't need it unless something goes wrong... "paranoia" LOL! i have ALREADY "needed" one before. not pleasant, and i keep carrying it, hoping i WON'T need it. suit yourself is what i say, but don't try to think for me about what i need, you're not qualified.
I’m required to have car insurance. It protects others on the road from any mistakes I may make. My ex wanted me to get life insurance. I think she had evil thoughts.
Most everybody I know carry’s. It’s like whatever. For the most part, they’re not shooting each other. I’ve learned to stay away from a few. Surprisingly, not “gangbangers”. That’s just distracts the dialog when the question is where do all these guns come from? While some are smuggled in, Mexico is suing over the guns smuggled back the other way. Even then, gangbangers as individuals deserve a safer environment where they’re not induced into being gangbangers to begin with. Coping in the city should not be a death sentence and should not be simply passed off as internal violence.
Most everybody I know carry’s. It’s like whatever. For the most part, they’re not shooting each other. I’ve learned to stay away from a few. Surprisingly, not “gangbangers”. That’s just distracts the dialog when the question is where do all these guns come from? While some are smuggled in, Mexico is suing over the guns smuggled back the other way. Even then, gangbangers as individuals deserve a safer environment where they’re not induced into being gangbangers to begin with. Coping in the city should not be a death sentence and should not be simply passed off as internal violence.
are you saying that you would not have car insurance if it was not mandatory? 
i don't have life insurance myself. didn't think i was gonna live long enough to build up any value. wrong! now, i'm not going to leave my wife in the shape she should be in if i die too soon. car insurance being mandated is a relatively late development, but i've had it since 1973. "for the most part, they are not shooting each other". excellent. proper gun control is mainly self-control...
i don't have life insurance myself. didn't think i was gonna live long enough to build up any value. wrong! now, i'm not going to leave my wife in the shape she should be in if i die too soon. car insurance being mandated is a relatively late development, but i've had it since 1973. "for the most part, they are not shooting each other". excellent. proper gun control is mainly self-control...
WTF is a "rifle class"? feel free to attempt to make sense, lol. 
would you, or would you not, carry car insurance if it was not legally required? or is this just more "govt imposition into the sphere of personal decisions" ? another assault on "muh freedom" ? good Lord... 
would you, or would you not, carry car insurance if it was not legally required? or is this just more "govt imposition into the sphere of personal decisions" ? another assault on "muh freedom" ? good Lord... 
Muh freedom? What are you talking about? My car insurance is in case I hit somebody. It is required. I’d still probably have liability because it means I take responsibility for my actions. Do you have insurance in case you accidentally discharge your weapon? I know you’re not going to. I’ve never wrecked my car either. But just in case. Or is it about “muh freedom”?WTF is a "rifle class"? feel free to attempt to make sense, lol.
You guys keep saying a person trained in gun safety and all is somehow void of anger. That’s silly.
answer the question- would you still buy insurance if it was not legally required? it is a simple "yes or no", even YOU could answer it. i think, i could be wrong. the revolver i carry is not capable of being accidentally discharged. it is a shrouded hammer double action, no exposed hammer to hit anything & possibly go off. if it goes off, it will be because i pulled the trigger, which i hope never happens. "you guys" my ass. nobody here has said that, keep YOUR words out of my mouth. you want to see silly? read your most recent posts in this thread. you are a waste of time...
when his Freedom Arms (i think) derringer falls out of that loop & hits the floor hammer first, i hope he shoots himself in the ass instead of injuring someone else.
you reckon he has a couple of Bowie knives on the other side so he doesn't waddle in a circle?
That stand mixer in the background is a known threat. Kitchens are dangerous.
yeah, i think i'd do a pre-emptive strike, and shoot it first before it came after me...
I always thought this was interesting https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/01/03/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-crime-epidemic/
Well the way I see it, and this seems to be supported by ads I've seen recently, the real problem with gun violence is impulse control. The gun is an effective tool for taking quick action perhaps so quick the person with the gun doesn't think things thru carefully, they just grab the gun and give into whatever impulse. Hence you have ads like the one I refer to that shows a gun owner with a gun that is locked in such a way that it has to be unlocked before it can be used, presumably giving the person a few extra moments to consider what they are contemplating on doing. Now in this ad the thing the gun owner is contemplating is suicide because it is a war veteran suffering from PTSD. Now in that particular scenario it seems to make great sense. What if the situation was different though? What if the person was in a life or death situation and needed to get and use the gun quickly for self defense? Then having to undo locks might not be such a good thing. It seems there is no one good one size fits all solution. Now I heard someone mention a rifle class, I'm guessing that's a class a perspective gun owner has to take in order to own a gun. That wouldn't be a fool proof solution either but something like that seems like a good idea and is probably the closest we could come to a solution.
Now in my own case because I was foolish and reckless in my youth I manage to pick up a felony charge when I turned 18 and as a result I've never been able to own a gun legally. I did however have a good friend who was into guns and one thing that always impressed me about him was that he strongly believed it was his responsibility to go to a shooting range and practice regularly. I mean how good is a gun if when the time comes that you need to use it, you're not very good at using it? Sure on TV they make it look simple, just point and shoot right? Well according to my friend and other gun owners I've talked to over the years, it's not quite as simple as it looks on TV. Because of this I've always felt that it should be mandatory for gun owners to regularly put in time at a shooting range and if something like that could be mandated you could also combine that with some classroom time where the latest safe practices are discussed. Now I know something like that wouldn't be popular as I'm sure many gun owners would be insulted by the government saying they needed regular training to be trusted with a gun. However as unpopular as it might be it's the best solution I can come up with that might help with the problem without needing to take guns way from people.
See the real problem with guns is that there are more guns in the US then there are citizens and that's just counting the ones that are legal. With guns being that popular and with the constitution providing a right to gun ownership the idea of getting rid of guns is ridiculous, it's never going to happen. Especially with the kind of mentality made famous by Charlton Heston when he was President of the NRA "I'll give you my gun when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands" although actually that saying predates when Heston said it. The point being there are many gun owners that passionate about their guns and so the idea of taking them away is never going to work. Then of course there is the other famous line often used that goes, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" and whether you like it or not there is truth to that kind of thinking. So if you accept those two things then the options for solving gun violence gets narrowed down pretty quickly and all you're really left with is doing your best to try to make gun owners more responsible and harsh mandatory penalties for people convicted of gun violence.
Now in my own case because I was foolish and reckless in my youth I manage to pick up a felony charge when I turned 18 and as a result I've never been able to own a gun legally. I did however have a good friend who was into guns and one thing that always impressed me about him was that he strongly believed it was his responsibility to go to a shooting range and practice regularly. I mean how good is a gun if when the time comes that you need to use it, you're not very good at using it? Sure on TV they make it look simple, just point and shoot right? Well according to my friend and other gun owners I've talked to over the years, it's not quite as simple as it looks on TV. Because of this I've always felt that it should be mandatory for gun owners to regularly put in time at a shooting range and if something like that could be mandated you could also combine that with some classroom time where the latest safe practices are discussed. Now I know something like that wouldn't be popular as I'm sure many gun owners would be insulted by the government saying they needed regular training to be trusted with a gun. However as unpopular as it might be it's the best solution I can come up with that might help with the problem without needing to take guns way from people.
See the real problem with guns is that there are more guns in the US then there are citizens and that's just counting the ones that are legal. With guns being that popular and with the constitution providing a right to gun ownership the idea of getting rid of guns is ridiculous, it's never going to happen. Especially with the kind of mentality made famous by Charlton Heston when he was President of the NRA "I'll give you my gun when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands" although actually that saying predates when Heston said it. The point being there are many gun owners that passionate about their guns and so the idea of taking them away is never going to work. Then of course there is the other famous line often used that goes, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" and whether you like it or not there is truth to that kind of thinking. So if you accept those two things then the options for solving gun violence gets narrowed down pretty quickly and all you're really left with is doing your best to try to make gun owners more responsible and harsh mandatory penalties for people convicted of gun violence.
Swimming pools are also known to kill a large number of humans… I say ban em.
My argument against the bolded part is that is a barrier to entry for poor folks. However, I do agree with you in principal.
Of course, my plan would help to alleviate said issues.
cars as well...and alcohol too. (they are much worse when used together) that didn't work first time, but you know what they say the first sign of insanity is...
