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"gun violence"

armedoldhippy

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South Carolina is organizing a rifle team too.
lots of universities have them. some high schools here also have archery teams, trap & skeet leagues etc. we had a "bong squad" at my HS when i was young, still got the t-shirt here someplace. doesn't fit me anymore...:shucks:
 
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Petrochemical

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What breaks my heart in my own country is that I see kids that are very very easily impressionable by an elder that they respect they look up too and unfortunately that Elder chooses to let them become organ donation before they hit 30 years old with a lifestyle they offer them and it's sad it's like I told you it's local dude that was he quit the local fire department after serving the military I told him I said you know if you want to make a difference to try to go to to some kids and show him that there's a better path other than following these idiots who think they need a gun in their waistband. I think I just read an article where Texas is turned that knowledge into a poison or classified it as a poison instead of a drug so that now if they can find out who's supplying it they said they charge them with attempted murder by a poison, at the end of the day I'm hoping that at least half the kids that get caught up in that lifestyle will have an epiphany before they're 18 years old and realize it but what they've been taught what they've been shown it's just you want to go jump into a f****** woodchipper go ahead but there's better ways to live your life kids
 

Petrochemical

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lots of universities have them. some high schools here also have archery teams, trap & skeet leagues etc. we had a "bong squad" at my HS when i was young, still got the t-shirt here someplace. doesn't fit me anymore...:shucks:
Dude back in 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 Mi to gym teachers were Hal Getty and mr. Fisk and mr. Fisk had a really bad limp a boy would you show us how to shoot and boy did he show us how to play rugby in scrum my Lord everyone else thought he was out of his mind I'm a lot happier that I learned how to play rugby than baseball at that point in my life. I'm also a firm believer that the hunter safety course instructor that I had at school that was also the rifle team instructor was one of the firm reasons why I respect Firearms the way I do now as an adult super important
 

h.h.

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if they are carrying guns, selling drugs, and flashing gang signs as communication...."if it walks like a duck..." you don't get to count those who are part of the problem as victims. stop carrying pistols, quit competing for popular street corners while slinging drugs, and your odds of getting shot drop. let's just count real innocent people as victims instead of trying to drive up "body count" for maximum effect on the gullible.
They're not all slinging drugs. Much of it is for self protection . What happens in the country is multiplied in the city. Guns are easy to get. When everybody has one, you need one. It takes cash to get one. You sell drugs to get cash. Its a perpetual cycle supported by those who profit from the manufacturing of the guns and by those who buy the drugs. In many cases that includes the pot smokers.
 

Swamp Thang

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A fun fact that I ran across recently was that gun ownership per capita is substantially higher in Canada than it is in the USA, yet, mass shootings, armned robberies, and road rage incidents are a rarity in Canada, where those guns are as much a part of rural life as are farm tractors.

My modest collection of shooting irons includes a Steyr Pro Hunter rifle in 308, two 12-gauge Winchester Model 1200 pump-action shotguns of which one is fitted with an after-market rifled barrel to shoot slugs, and finally a Lamber double-barrel over-and-under shotgun. Got a nice break barrel air rifle for ground squirrels and rabbits. Never owned a handgun in my life, and never fired a shot in anger over all these decades as an avid deer hunter.
 

Petrochemical

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They're not all slinging drugs. Much of it is for self protection . What happens in the country is multiplied in the city. Guns are easy to get. When everybody has one, you need one. It takes cash to get one. You sell drugs to get cash. Its a perpetual cycle supported by those who profit from the manufacturing of the guns and by those who buy the drugs. In many cases that includes the pot smokers.
Very rarely are people that are alcoholics substance abusers or maniacal trolls ever thinking rationally let alone be able to know about CQC or everyday carry or even remotely be concerned about it. All I see in our society are people not willing to earn respect like you had to when we were young boys and trying to get it through violence and forcing people not going to end well.
 

armedoldhippy

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They're not all slinging drugs. Much of it is for self protection . What happens in the country is multiplied in the city. Guns are easy to get. When everybody has one, you need one. It takes cash to get one. You sell drugs to get cash. Its a perpetual cycle supported by those who profit from the manufacturing of the guns and by those who buy the drugs. In many cases that includes the pot smokers.
to which i reply -legalize the drugs and eliminate drug sales as a source of cash for criminals. when there is no money to be made by controlling areas for drug sales, they won't be shooting folks to control them. eradicating gangs selling drugs will go a long ways toward making us all safer. there is always the danger of unintended consequences to any action. for instance, what will the gangs turn to for money if drugs are legalized?
 

armedoldhippy

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A fun fact that I ran across recently was that gun ownership per capita is substantially higher in Canada than it is in the USA, yet, mass shootings, armned robberies, and road rage incidents are a rarity in Canada, where those guns are as much a part of rural life as are farm tractors.

My modest collection of shooting irons includes a Steyr Pro Hunter rifle in 308, two 12-gauge Winchester Model 1200 pump-action shotguns of which one is fitted with an after-market rifled barrel to shoot slugs, and finally a Lamber double-barrel over-and-under shotgun. Got a nice break barrel air rifle for ground squirrels and rabbits. Never owned a handgun in my life, and never fired a shot in anger over all these decades as an avid deer hunter.
damn near (if not) impossible to get handguns in Canada, from my reading. i know it is illegal to take one in if you hunt with them, which is growing in popularity. as you note, the guns are not the problem, the people are...if they can't get guns, people use knives, baseball bats, cars and trucks, whatever...we have killed each other by one manner or another since we have walked the earth. folks have got to stop blaming the tool used and start hammering the wielder of those tools.
 

Swamp Thang

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I
well at least in New Jersey cops can now legally smoke pot.

It didn't say if they can be puffing on a Spliff while they arrest you.

Maybe they could work some Bob Marley into the Miranda statement.
The day I can chill in a squad car to share a joint with a cop and not get arrested, I'll know for sure I have reached heaven without having to die first.
 

Three Berries

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if they are carrying guns, selling drugs, and flashing gang signs as communication...."if it walks like a duck..." you don't get to count those who are part of the problem as victims. stop carrying pistols, quit competing for popular street corners while slinging drugs, and your odds of getting shot drop. let's just count real innocent people as victims instead of trying to drive up "body count" for maximum effect on the gullible.
It's gangbanging and don't talk to the police. Won't change until they do. Black on Black crime is the big taboo.
 

GOT_BUD?

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i don't think that would completely stop it, but it would for damn sure cut down on it drastically. there will always be aberrant behavior by otherwise normal seeming folks. "he was so quiet, none of us expected this from him...":oops:
You will never fully stop gun violence. Not when there are more guns in this country than actually people living here. The point of my argument is to take away the number one tool "gun grabbers" use - reduction of gun violence. By enacting those 3 things, it should cut gun violence by at least half, if not 2/3 to 3/4. And without touching the 2nd Amendment. Something a lot of folks are concerned about.

It's really a win for everybody - no new gun laws and a reduction in gun violence. Not to mention lifting some 80 million people out of poverty, finally joining the rest of the world in providing free health care, and eliminating one of the largest contributors of gun violence (And poverty. And the number one contributor to the School to Prison pipeline. And a whole list of other social problems.)- the War on Drugs.
 

Rider420

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Hate begets hate in nations at war with thier own citizens. Skin walkers claim thier freedom to hate and kill those who are different while pretending to protect themselfs. In other words same old same old shit.
 

armedoldhippy

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You will never fully stop gun violence. Not when there are more guns in this country than actually people living here. The point of my argument is to take away the number one tool "gun grabbers" use - reduction of gun violence. By enacting those 3 things, it should cut gun violence by at least half, if not 2/3 to 3/4. And without touching the 2nd Amendment. Something a lot of folks are concerned about.

It's really a win for everybody - no new gun laws and a reduction in gun violence. Not to mention lifting some 80 million people out of poverty, finally joining the rest of the world in providing free health care, and eliminating one of the largest contributors of gun violence (And poverty. And the number one contributor to the School to Prison pipeline. And a whole list of other social problems.)- the War on Drugs.
GB, you need to run for office...ANY office, i'm voting for you.
 

GOT_BUD?

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GB, you need to run for office...ANY office, i'm voting for you.
I'd never win because the folks that my plan would get to foot the bill would use all of their money and influence to stop me from achieving it.

90% tax on earnings over $1 million would make roughly 240,000 people very unhappy. So they'd get some 70 million people fired up to call me a communist or a socialist or some sort of other -ist when what I really am is a decent human being.
 
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