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[Rondelia]

file antonare kalokairi grow xwris water chiller kai aircondition den tha mporeseis na kaneis
oi thermokrasies pou xreiazontai gia na einai ygih ta fita kai na vgaloun poli prama einai
19-29c opws katalabeneis autes oi thermokrasies meta tis 15/6 einai kapws diskolo na tis kratthseis ....
apo thn allh twra prolaveneis omws na jekinhseis

 

[ariston]

nai i analogia mporeis na tin kratisis etsi olo to grow, omos fysika an dis oti exoun elipsi p.x. N, tote anevase to N, ktlp...

to ppm tha prepi na kaneis dokimes, kathe fyto theli tin dikia tou posotita
ksekina me 0.4-0.6 EC kai anevaseto siga siga.

gia aero den exo idea file

 

[tjo]

egw file ariston ntaksei, exw psilokatalabei pws leitourgei to olo pragma alla
den exw kapoies leptomereies pou prepei na katalavw, opws:
- xwros 120x80x160(gia ta loipa blepe pio panw)

-me pernei na valw 4 gia na teliwsei pio grigora?isxyei auto?

se pairnei na baleis 4 kai ontos teleioneis pio grigora..


-an to contoller einai katw apo to cabinet ,(me ta 4)
pws tha einai leitourgiko? (yparxei kanena design pouthena? den exw vrei kati san auto )

an o controler einai apo apo tous koubades den einai DWC alla
ebb n flow..o controller prepei na einai sto idio upsos me toy koubades kai na exei tin idia stathmi.

-mporw na exw 40 lt panw sto megalo bucket
h se dio dipla kai katw to controller me 18lt?

mporeis na exeis ena doxeio me 40 litra (gia 4 futa me elaxisto veg einai entaksei ta litra,an theleis megalutera futa tha prepei na baleis kai megalutero doxeio..skepsou kai pos tha ksemperdepseis tis rizes an tha theliseis na bgaleis kanena arseniko mesa apo to sustima.. ..o controller sinithos prepei na einai pio megalos alla auto den einai proypothesi..i antlia toy neroy an einai pio megali pantos ap oso prepei tote ginetai yperxeilisi..
to-ta doxeia sundeontai me ton controler me paroxes deksamenis..pare paroxes 1intsas gia eisai sigouros oti de tha plumiriseis.

-an exw ta heater(skeftomai 2x50watt) pws mporw na ta exw sta fita xwris na kaiw tis rizes ?

tha exeis ena megalutero heater mesa sto controler kai ola kala

-tha leitourghsei ena plastiko lepto, poli lepto, dixtaki se apostash 5cm girwgirw apo ta heaters?

na mi skeftesai oute gia plaka na baleis heater mesa se rizes..

-me ti trompes? auth kanei an exw to controller apo katw?

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/16w-immersible-submersible-fountain-water-pump-220-240v-50hz-49481

gia na ginei to sustima rerciculating xreiazetai mia antlia nerou san autin pou exei sto link..kali einai kai logika prepei na exei ruthmisi
rois..auto einai polu simantiko,giati an i antlia stelnei parapano nero ap oso gurnaei apo toys solines epistrofis sto controler tote to doxeio i ta doxeia tha ksexulisoun..

-na exw aerantlia h aeropetres?

i aerantlia xreiazetai aeropetres gia na bgoun oi mpourmpoulithres,
allios de ginetai douleia..mia kali antlia sxetika athoribi kai me kali timi einai auti
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYDROPONI...arden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item588aa7b6e4

-gia na katalabw, pws akrivws tha to doulevw ? ,
tha rixnw siblirwmatika kathe 1-2 meres nutes sto controller ?
pws ginetai akrivws olh h diadikasia me thn allagh tou nerou ?
(Me anisixei idiaitera to pou tha apothikevw 60 lt nero gia na feygei to xlwrio

to nero mou einai 150ppm)

gemizeis to sustima nero me lipasmata kai kathe 2 bdomades max
tous allazeis olo to nero...me tin antlia nerou tha mporeis eukola na to adeiazeis(wc,kouzina mpalkoni). kai kalo einai na exeis kana2 megala(kathara) mpetonakia gia to nero sou.
exei kati filtra nerou sto ebay me 30-40 euro,,einai polu kali ependusi an sunexiseis to dwc.

to thread toy blazeonup pou anebases exei oles tis xrisimes plirofories gia ena rdwc..opos exei kai polles atelies omos..


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λεω να φτιαξω ενα συστημα aeroponic και να το χρεισημοποιισω το καλοκαιρι στο μπαλκονι,φυσικα οχι με staf,ωστε να εχω μια πειρα για τον αλλο χειμονα.Τι αλλο φυτο μπορω να βαλω?

de paizei na ginei tipota kalokaii me tis zestes..fusika oute marouli.

 

[antonios]

Παιδια ειπα οτι θα το κανω στο μπαλκονι με τον ηλιο.Αν το καταλαβα καλα θελω απλος μια μπριζα για να βαλω την αεραντια.Σκεφτομαι για ντοματια.Τα ιδια δεν ειναι hydroponic-aeroponic?Εννοω στα φαγητα?

 

[Rondelia]

tjo auto ti sou leei san ogko ? 65 litra einai , san yliko einai kalo h prepei aparaithta na einai food grade to plastiko?
http://www.storeitnow.gr/προιόντα/ο...ης-οργάνωσης/tuff-packer-65l?ref=bestprice.gr

posa lt minimum thelw gia ton controller apo dipla?

ps to allo sistima gamato alla den jerw an xwrane ola mesa,autos exei ton controller ektos

 

[rory]

Παιδια ειπα οτι θα το κανω στο μπαλκονι με τον ηλιο.Αν το καταλαβα καλα θελω απλος μια μπριζα για να βαλω την αεραντια.Σκεφτομαι για ντοματια.Τα ιδια δεν ειναι hydroponic-aeroponic?Εννοω στα φαγητα?

mpalkoni+hlios=zesth=den ginete
ektos an psixis to nero....!
etsi? ginete?

 

[antonios]

θα δωκιμασω, τι εχω να χασω?θα χασω λιγα λυπασματα και μια ντοματια και ελπιζω να μαθω κατι.

 

[Rondelia]

mipws eixes antonie kaliterh apodosh me hempy buckets kai automato potisma me drosero(20vathous) nero? h kai xwris an to potizes 2 fores tin mera apo ligo

 

[antonios]

πιο πολυ με ενδιαφερει να φτιαχτει ο κουβας το καλοκαιρι που πεζει κανενα φραγκο.

 

[Rondelia]

antonios gia chekare mia giati erxetai marths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJ-rDPemDA

 

[tjo]

tjo auto ti sou leei san ogko ? 65 litra einai , san yliko einai kalo h prepei aparaithta na einai food grade to plastiko?

posa lt minimum thelw gia ton controller apo dipla?

ps to allo sistima gamato alla den jerw an xwrane ola mesa,autos exei ton controller ektos

mia xara fainetai arkei na anteksei ton ogko toy nerou..
..koita na min exei trupes sta plagia kai pare gia controller ena plastiko kouba(xromaton einai ok).


ps nai ton exei ap ekso alla tha ton balei mesa

 

[Rondelia]

to kwlo-rockwool mou exei vgalei mouxla sth vash tou klwnou,
ti na kanw jerete? tha akolouthisoyn foto kai ta ypoloipa , twra pame se maske

 

[Rondelia]

na maste ksana meta to ksefantwma pali edw me ta problhmata mas

Fagan krio, twra ta exw mesa mexri na kataferw na perasw tous mentesedes ths ntoulapas
deite kai peite
https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=35710&pictureid=844909

 

[tjo]

tha sunelthoun kai suntoma an ta fertheis sosta
auto pou thelo na sou po einai sxetiko me to kapaki sou..kalos to skeftikes me to felizol ALLA profanos den upologises to baros pou tha paroun meta,alla oute kai ti pithanotita na pernaei fos apo mesa..
kalutera na pareis FIBRAN pou einai pio anthektiko kai na to ntyseis me tainia alouminiou.(sta giapia(oikodomes) isos na breis kana kommati sti koutra) kai tainia alouminiou apo ta sidirika.
just do it!

 

[Rondelia]

s euxaristw aggorina mou me exeis voithisei oso kaneis !!! Oso gia to felizol eeinai mia poly proxeirh proswrinh lysh , an den to vrw se giapi se ti magazia ta poulane ?
otan les na tous ferthw swsta ti ennoeis ?
To ph einai 5.8 kai exoun kamia 250 ppm lipasma, tous allazw to nero mia fora thn evdomada
Oi thermokrasies tou nerou paizoun apo 18 mexri 28 analoga me to pote anigw ton heater
thermokrasia sto dwmatio 18-20°

 

[tjo]

an den to vrw se giapi se ti magazia ta poulane ?

--se sidirika-domika ulika.einai auto to prasinomple to skliro kai bgainei se diafora paxi.

otan les na tous ferthw swsta ti ennoeis ?

--auta pou grafeis apo kato

To ph einai 5.8 kai exoun kamia 250 ppm lipasma, tous allazw to nero mia fora thn evdomada
Oi thermokrasies tou nerou paizoun apo 18 mexri 28 analoga me to pote anigw ton heater
thermokrasia sto dwmatio 18-20°

 

[Rondelia]

apo to kako sto xeirotero pane pantws, ta symptwmata synexyzoun, exthes allaksa olo to nero,
ph 5.7 130ppm to nero + 270ppm to lipasma
xrhshmopoiw to nutrient express 18-18-18 ths miller kai ph down tis GH

edit: re paidia einai fusiologiko na anevainei to ph 1.5 vathmo se 2 wres????

 

[rory]

kalispera filos!
to ph na to metras otan to nero einai stoys 20-22c alios soy leei lathos times!

 

[ariston]

apo to kako sto xeirotero pane pantws, ta symptwmata synexyzoun, exthes allaksa olo to nero,
ph 5.7 130ppm to nero + 270ppm to lipasma
xrhshmopoiw to nutrient express 18-18-18 ths miller kai ph down tis GH

edit: re paidia einai fusiologiko na anevainei to ph 1.5 vathmo se 2 wres????

rondelia afto ginete me mikra reservouar emena pantos perni ligi ora na statheropiithi. an metras to pH molis evales to pH down tha se dosi xamila noumera. an anevi to pH pali, vale ligo pH down kai ksana dokimase meta merikes ores.

rory to ph meter mou exi 'temperature compensation'

 

[Rondelia]

rondelia afto ginete me mikra reservouar emena pantos perni ligi ora na statheropiithi. an metras to pH molis evales to pH down tha se dosi xamila noumera. an anevi to pH pali, vale ligo pH down kai ksana dokimase meta merikes ores.

rory to ph meter mou exi 'temperature compensation'

wraios re file! tha to psaksw otan parw phmetro(twra prosorina exw to kitaki me to ygro) , poso ekane to diko s ? paizei na vrw me kana 30e me tetoia patenta?
Euxaristw gia to endiaferwn paidia !!