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wtf sensi seeds??????

This is Gyspy holding old stock,,,Buyin older unpopular strains , i got bite alot, 1 pack white label kali haze>>> non germ. 2 diffrent packs MNS Spice , The older packs A FEW MONTHS AGO BEFORE the new MNS packs came out,2 packs kerela krush , 1 pack thaitanic......... Pack of MNS la nina ..... No germ .all 100% failures ,same time Nirvana and a few rez strains like chEm bx111 all tails in 1 night.... It part of the game ,,,,,But I think they keep the microwave to close to the seeds at the boutique,

Older unpopular shit is A Gamble
 

andl

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hey folks

i bought some sensi too few months ago, well it was worse

first i bought some ed rosenthal which wasnt that bad germinating out of 10/7 came up 1 was weird so i got 6 out of this 6 i got 2 females and 4 males nothing hermed even with stress, its a big yielder i yielded about 3 1/2 oz of one plant, the other pheno was pretty bad smelled good in flowering but has even no taste when dried, i really wondered because phenos were ready at 42-49 days ! very fast finisher!

other side i bought some Northern Lights, but was very dissapointed nothing sprouted out of 10?! WTF
i know the guys in the shop told them the story and they gave me a new package for free, they even open it up and break one seed to see if its okay.

well only 3/9 came up one is a nice girl which i kept but its not the old NL its this strechy thai, bah....


well germ rates seem to be very bad these days now when ya buy sensi seeds


i also did serveral breeding projects with 2 of the 4 ed males.
i backcrossed the best ed female with the 2 males and i crossed many other strains with the males and germ rates are now 90%+ and this was my first time makin' seeds :)

the backcrossed ed looking very nice some seeds are very sativa like, big and some are more indica (very little) so i expect some nice varety in this cross now.

and well i dont think the problem is, that these expensive seeds are layin around for a long time these seeds arent that old and they have spread for years or even decades...


recently i got very big luck ( i love this guy) a friend of mine told me had left a 15 package with about 9 seeds of the OL' MR.NICE :D this is sick shit i gurantee i had a cutting but its lost (Bad story) and he gave the seeds to me as a present and i just put 4 in the ground EVERY SEED came up and he kept the package for 6 years in the freezer... still 5 here in the freezer.

i plan to backcross the mr.nice (g13xhashplant) to save these great genetics. its so sad but i can tell ya you CANT GET these quality seeds anymore, or even better ones...
 
i used to grow when i lived up north then i moved i quit for like 6 years when i came back all those nirvana seeds, sensi seeds, all those breeders that were out in the early bog and rez days on OG when i used to grow, where still for sale, they stil have the same pictures on the seed banks, and im guessing they are the same seeds, about 10 years old now at this point, just like Riley said old stock. go for DNA or dinafem one these new age breeders make sure you get fresh seeds, any classic strains have a chance getting "classic" stock.
 

dubite

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Growing some Sensi Super Skunk from clone atm and all my complaints are regarding the lack of mould resistency. This can hardly be labeled as an outdoor strain.. It is also very sensitive to light pollution which has pushed me back at least a month back.. Will come back with a smoke report but they look quite oke if you ask me... Do check the link in my sig. to get an idea how they look.
 
I had no problems w/ the Maple Leaf beans I got from them awhile back. Good germ rate...good yield, not spectacular but all around quality genetics.
 

habeeb

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I think it would be just fair business, if the seeds-companys would stamp there seeds-packs, with date of production. As it is now, you dont know if the head-shop have had it for years.
Also it scary to see many sites selling seeds that is no longer advertised on the makers sites... When did Sensi last sell Silver Pearl???

Sorry my english is terrible...

The whole business i sketzy, we need gentlemen to take it over.
To many just wants to make fast profit and dont care for the future of the Cannabis.
In many ways it reminds me of the porn industry, alot of fake.

this is true, and they should regulate it, and it will be one legalized whenever that is..

but this is why I take it upon myself to only buy fresh stock, I only buy once I know it's been out, and then wait a couple weeks once it's in to make sure if any old packs still left, someone else bought them.

I don't think I've ever had a problem with germ rates on any seeds I've ever had. good luck? maybe, but this is how I roll to up the percentages in my favor that I don't have seed problems..
 

Solidopc

Active member
Just ordered silver pearl a few days ago at the boutique. They should arrive tomorrow as the status is "oder sent in full". Will put 5 of them in distilled water the same day and post germ rate here.


BW

I wouldn't do this if i were you. I rekon it's a large part of the reason many people report bad germ rates with sensi. Sensi/WL/TFD actually say to not soak their seeds, they do not need it, and it causes alot to rot before even germing. They advocate the paper towel method, but straight into cubes is fine.

Soaking seeds is in my opinion not a good idea full stop. Perhaps with strains with particulary thick husks or something, but not for most.

When making seed became illegal in the late 90's it seems Sensi lost most of its parent stock. Since then they have had to use their seed stock to breed, back cross style. Different folks selecting and not necessarily doing it the same way as it was done earlier in the 90's. They use the old pics but chances of getting that are slim to nil. I have a friend who is a total Sensi fan, has been disappointed repeatedly in the last 10 years. Man I hope he stops beating his head against that wall soon. Peace GS

I think that's a silly statement. Why only sensi out of all the dutch breeders lost their stock when making seed became illegal? Where is any evidence of this? Seems to me any company that's been around aslong as sensi would have genetics backed up all over. Same as everyone else.

I tell ya, wait till you see my nl#5/haze plants, they're going to kick ass, and if my mate orders the silver haze, i'll have that off the hook too. Sensi are not as bad as people want to believe. White Label stuff i tried has been sound apart from afghan kush, which was not bad, just average.
 
B

Blue

Sensi are as bad as they are being made out to be! Im an old skool strain fan period.. sensi in the 90's were the shit most of their stuff you could find a killer mother in one pack we have an afghan mother from the early 90's a NL5 # haze mother from 97, juicy fruit as well.

But last year we lost our shanti & black dom mothers & tried to replace them but to no avail, what ever breeding practice & plants they are using aint up to the quality they were back in the 90's no doubt about it, but then again it seems to be the norm with a lot of seed banks now the quality is just not there.... And at the prices they are asking for some of their gear they need to look in the mirror hard!!
 

berlinweed

Active member
I wouldn't do this if i were you. I rekon it's a large part of the reason many people report bad germ rates with sensi. Sensi/WL/TFD actually say to not soak their seeds, they do not need it, and it causes alot to rot before even germing. They advocate the paper towel method, but straight into cubes is fine.

Soaking seeds is in my opinion not a good idea full stop. Perhaps with strains with particulary thick husks or something, but not for most.

Well soaking for 24 h and than putting into paper towel works great for me.
If they are old I will see it. Never had a bad germ rate. Worst was only seven of ten sprouting. Seems the post strike stops the plan a bit, still no seeds arrived.

Greetz

BW
 

Solidopc

Active member
I don't doubt it works for you, and countless other growers. Just sensi and their umbrealla companies specfically advise against doing it with their seeds. So it might be a good idea to not use this method with their seeds just incase, what with all the talk of bad germ rates.

Perhaps a 50/50 experiment, do 5 the soaking way and 5 the paper towel and see how it works out.
 

dmt

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I don't doubt it works for you, and countless other growers. Just sensi and their umbrealla companies specfically advise against doing it with their seeds. So it might be a good idea to not use this method with their seeds just incase, what with all the talk of bad germ rates.

Perhaps a 50/50 experiment, do 5 the soaking way and 5 the paper towel and see how it works out.


thanks buddy, ive never heard that before.....? i dont know what the difference between sensi and ohters stock because every starin and hybrid of old has at least some kinda afgahn, nl, skunk or haze. i doubt sensi gm their seed to be soak free.

see in nature, buds fall with seed, and are dormant until thaw/spring. the old rotted bud the seed is in makes perfect enviroment for seeds to germ/grow. just like if a bird eats a seed, takes a poop, and the seed will be well on its way in thaw time to sprout with the guano surrounding it. when i lived in the carribean, thier landrace sativas ripen at different times late in the season, and you can actaully see seeds germinatin in the buds from over ripening. its realy wierd. thats how these guys knew when to chop the whole plant, when some seeds matured and sprouted(well tap root anyway) in the living flowers and or wet dead harvested flowers.

i have sprouted a ton of sensi stalk with "my" method. never issues before last year.
 

dubi

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I think sensi has been outsourcing their seed production, i have met people in my zone doing skunk seeds for them in very little indoor rooms, without quality control or breeding guidance, then quality must be unpredictable. Sensi's was one of the best seedbanks in the 80s and till mid-late 90s but now they are a shadow of the past.
 

ManoVerde

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I heared that some dutch seedbanks including Sensi Seeds were producing some of their seeds in Spain since a few years, do you know s.th. about that dubi?
I heared also something of producing in Africa? Maybe in Cannaries also, just curious about that last question :confused:

Saludos

I think sensi has been outsourcing their seed production, i have met people in my zone doing skunk seeds for them in very little indoor rooms, without quality control or breeding guidance, then quality must be unpredictable. Sensi's was one of the best seedbanks in the 80s and till mid-late 90s but now they are a shadow of the past.
 
E

elmanito

Now i can understand why some of their outdoor varieties flower much later than in the 90s, although i dont have any other complaints about their Jamaican Pearl.If they let other people do the breeding without any control on the genetics, i'm afraid than that will decrease the quality of their breeding stock.What i also read that they are not the only one who outsource their seed production.

Namaste :smoweed: :canabis:

 
K

KermitTheHermit

I just bought a 10 pack of White Ice from White Label seeds, purchased from the Boutique. The description says the breeder is Sensi.

I soaked them overnight in tap water, put them in peat pucks under a 250W HPS. All five sprouted, have been potted up into 1 pint pots and are looking good at 1 week!
 

berlinweed

Active member
I don't doubt it works for you, and countless other growers. Just sensi and their umbrealla companies specfically advise against doing it with their seeds. So it might be a good idea to not use this method with their seeds just incase, what with all the talk of bad germ rates.

Perhaps a 50/50 experiment, do 5 the soaking way and 5 the paper towel and see how it works out.

Arrived today! So let´s make an experiment. First 5 of them will be soaked for 24 hours in distilled water and then put into paper towels then I wait. Should this method not work I will try it again with the last five direct into paper towels. Right now I don´t really need ten of them ´cause of space problems.

Greetz
 

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Hammerhead

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It will work fine.I have been soaking seeds for decades. Ime Heat is the key. Make sure they are in a nice warm area not to hot though.
 

Owl Mirror

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It will work fine.I have been soaking seeds for decades. Ime Heat is the key. Make sure they are in a nice warm area not to hot though.

I have found Indica dominant seeds germinate fine atop my computer monitor while, Sativa dominant seeds won't germinate there. I need to stick Sativa seeds inside the oven and allow the heat from the pilot light warm them to around 90 degrees to germinate them.
 

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