StardustCousin
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I've always said, if you want to make a mil, start with 2.
I believe FULL RO is not what plants like, in my present medium, But I worked it out with Him - for Aero, yeah, it needs to be pure, of course.. Yes, I put my foot down on all important issues. If He chose to overrule Me, I made sure someone HE trusted heard it said. COVER YO ASS..!!!Serious question, did you force him to use RO water?
I believe FULL RO is not what plants like, in my present medium, But I worked it out with Him - for Aero, yeah, it needs to be pure, of course.. Yes, I put my foot down on all important issues. If He chose to overrule Me, I made sure someone HE trusted heard it said. COVER YO ASS..!!!
When One goes from Consultant to Master Grower, there can be friction. Part of the job is negotiating all the issues. Professional and Personnel *which includes the money person who may have previously held ideas regarding myriad decisions to be made.
Some Bigshots hire an expert and then go tooth-and-nail against the person they pay. Or perhaps They HEARD something from someone who heard something from someone.
Since there is no real legal recourse, in most situations, all bets are off.
I've helped out, worked with or for not even 20% of the people who've desired my services.
I started out all helpful and hippie-like. That was a non-starter. Got walked on. Now, I know.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Same as a closet grow, just bigger. I would reserve a mil for unforseen newb mistakes. Biggest issue will be finding trustworthy people to work. Pay them very well. And security will be huge.
A botany degree would be a bare minimum for whoever is running the op.
Best of luck to you!
i would help you but it would cost ya 3 mil..as i went to school for horticulture and have run commercial greenhouses/grows .tomatoes weren't as fun....weed is just another crop..no big deal.. yeehaw good luck
From the sounds of things, you would make a decent lead grower. But the lead grower is not the guy that runs the business. At least, not that I've seen. I know a lot of good growers that want to start a business, but I know many don't know how to get started.
It also sounds like you're here to learn to start the business. So...
My question is, do you want to grow? Or do you want to run a business?
Agreed 100% When you talk to plant biologist that work in commericial ag production it becomes very clear that 99% of the people involved in the cannabis industry are really uneducated. If your not doing sap analysis, if you don't understand nutrients (how to make and adjust your own), how they are used by the plant, and if you don't know organic chemistry then gtfo. I can hire a college kid for a few hundred a week and get lightyears better information than anything from within the industry.
You're the type of consultant I would gladly pay for. If I needed to build a custom hydro set-up, or automate some type of system then you'd be who I call. I know engineers and they are very smart about a lot of things, but the professional engineering code states that if it's not your field of expertise you cannot give advice and the recipient should not accept it. You can easily get sued for that. I just wanted to use that as an example that the bar is set very high for consultants and that even engineers with a great scientific education cannot just decide to consult on something that they think they are qualified for, even though for all intensive purposes they probably would be.
thank you johnkimble... you have the most positive comment, and are the least concerned about getting caught up in drama... keep the good vibes flowing
consultants... they exist in every corner of the world for many reasons.. not everyone has the time a consultant knows to learn.. for whatever reason a consultant is nothing bad.. I'm not sure why people think someone that knows packaging, staffing, training, laws, security, layout, planning, site development....... is a bad thing??? it's like saying you have to know how to skydive before you go skydiving, NO YOU DON'T, you hire a company with someone who knows what they are doing and you get to skydive.. it's that simple guys.. ever go to college if someone of you have... you pay someone to teach you.. suba diving? surfing?
I get a lot of people do things on there own, that's cool, but there is a lot more people who have vasts amount of money to reach out for help and making sure they have the best plan and course for success...
I will get in touch with someone, but i have listened to everyone, I might start out small as I have managed multiple rooms by myself, I just never sold as I was invested in seeds, and to be honest it's a lot more daunting task and process as it's about a 8-10 step process from chop..
one option might be to run 15 lamps, and work my way up seeing what goes on and to scale bigger... the problem is really I want to run an automates setup and huge dosers don't scale smaller, that requires a completely different controller and thus the tech doesn't really switch over, second is there is a huge difference to ghetto rigging something, and laying out a bomb ass setup, when you think forward it's really hard to scale say 15 lamps to a hundred.. you would end up building a completely different room
another thing as some have mentioned is outdoor, last I heard a year or two ago was outdoor for whatever reason seemed that people wanted indoor.. I don't know what the scare was or is, but that's what I hear.. it's a good question to put on my radar, as I was thinking that indoor brought more harvests, but didn't think greenhouse space is superior if you have big land and setup.....
there's a million things going in my head.. I was just wanting to start a bigger project then I've ever done as I get bored quickly.. it's why I have used and perfected every nutrient out there and made my own recipes for organic dry nutes..
Ya know, I've made suggestions to people who have only ever grown indoors to do it in a greenhouse and to do a single crop per year. They think I'm nuts for even considering it.
Call Me negative, but I have answered about 9000000 of these questions for people. After a while I said 'no more,' until I see the cash. Too many of them felt entitled to free information from experts. Why..? Not sure. I can;t ask other professionals to explain the details of how they made things work. Not for free, at least.
It is called consulting. And, in this biz where 20% maybe end up actually using the info to DO something - the info is not - nor should it be - free of charge.
Then, many potential suitors of the plant have unrealistic expectations of the money tree.
OR, as soon as a first harvest is realized, all of a sudden the key doesn't fit the door. Who ya gonna call....? Ghostbusters..?
Pay up front, or only cursory info will you get.
Bottom line, all the info of yield (the most important thing, and first thing out of a suitor;s mouth) - is all available with a little research..
Would YOU invest whatever K without FIRST HAND INFO>..? Youch. I doubt I would.
Listen to the Poseur who yells the loudest about getting 1+ p per plant indoors in 50 days 12/12...?
And FINALLY, I cannot say just how many times people have had grand dreams that they want help with - with Other Peoples' Money. 90% never hear from em again.
Cheers, Carry on.
We certainly paid to learn it, through mistakes or whatever.
Not being a DB, but last I looked, Lawyers charged for their counsel. You want good info, with real personal commitment - be prepared to pay (handsomely) for it. And that is How it should be. It was not the Yellow Brick Road, learning this craft. Arcane at the least.
It is not just following a feed chart. There are nuances upon nuances. Strain Knowledge under certain conditions. Different methods and Nutrient regimens, organic vs conventional. Low Numbers High Yield, High Numbers SOG style. Hundreds of hats to wear. Experience is the only teacher. This is Common Knowledge amongst those who grow and are committed to the passion.
Well, they don't have a bunch of solar panels and wind power. I can assure you of that.
thank you johnkimble... you have the most positive comment, and are the least concerned about getting caught up in drama... keep the good vibes flowing
consultants... they exist in every corner of the world for many reasons.. not everyone has the time a consultant knows to learn.. for whatever reason a consultant is nothing bad.. I'm not sure why people think someone that knows packaging, staffing, training, laws, security, layout, planning, site development....... is a bad thing??? it's like saying you have to know how to skydive before you go skydiving, NO YOU DON'T, you hire a company with someone who knows what they are doing and you get to skydive.. it's that simple guys.. ever go to college if someone of you have... you pay someone to teach you.. suba diving? surfing?
I get a lot of people do things on there own, that's cool, but there is a lot more people who have vasts amount of money to reach out for help and making sure they have the best plan and course for success...
I will get in touch with someone, but i have listened to everyone, I might start out small as I have managed multiple rooms by myself, I just never sold as I was invested in seeds, and to be honest it's a lot more daunting task and process as it's about a 8-10 step process from chop..
one option might be to run 15 lamps, and work my way up seeing what goes on and to scale bigger... the problem is really I want to run an automates setup and huge dosers don't scale smaller, that requires a completely different controller and thus the tech doesn't really switch over, second is there is a huge difference to ghetto rigging something, and laying out a bomb ass setup, when you think forward it's really hard to scale say 15 lamps to a hundred.. you would end up building a completely different room
another thing as some have mentioned is outdoor, last I heard a year or two ago was outdoor for whatever reason seemed that people wanted indoor.. I don't know what the scare was or is, but that's what I hear.. it's a good question to put on my radar, as I was thinking that indoor brought more harvests, but didn't think greenhouse space is superior if you have big land and setup.....
there's a million things going in my head.. I was just wanting to start a bigger project then I've ever done as I get bored quickly.. it's why I have used and perfected every nutrient out there and made my own recipes for organic dry nutes..
Wrong. Going it alone is foolish. Especially with that sort of money spent. The price of a good consultant will save one if not two failed crops.. I've seen this play out several times, in different states. Obviously a pattern.You don't need a consultant; what you need is a business plan, and a consultant will be less than useless in helping you to formulate a good one. All a consultant will do is teach you how to do things the old way, the same way everyone else is doing. These folks who are dropping millions into grows today using old ways of doing things, will be the first ones on the chopping block within 5 years when someone (...you? or someone you're allied with?) completely reinvents the industry. To succeed in this business with staying power, and blow up that $2.5 mil into something much larger, you need to do things the new way. I can't PM yet, so if you'd like to chat further hit me up at username 'gladius', @, crazyworldbbs.com.