umm how big is your non med garden allowed to be now?
prohibition is the strictest form of regulation yes or no?
Vote YES or NO on Prop 19
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umm how big is your non med garden allowed to be now?
prohibition is the strictest form of regulation yes or no?
Right but you keep forgetting its STATE LAW that I can grow cannabis. It is LEGAL to grow cannabis.
TRC2010 will only be legal if you follow their rules as well.
I and any other Californian of the age 18 (not 21 in TRC2010) or over can grow unlimited amounts of plants.
The reason you will find a lot of out-of-staters wanting to vote yes is because they want to vacation in California and smoke legally, and/or are hoping this will streamline legalization for the rest of the country so they dont have to move. Both will essentially happen, which is great, but I'm not supporting a bill that I dont agree with just because a bunch of outsiders think its right, and dont know what the hell happens in California.
Also, if you go over the poll more closely, you'll see that 8 or more people voted for both Ca resident-yes and yes-but I would rather vote for a better bill. Doesn't change much, but its a little misleading. Solid no's are either: even farther ahead then solids then before, or the "hope for a better bill" crowd is about 20% smaller then advertised.
And to answer your question, yes prohibition is the strictest form of regulation.
With that said, Californian's of the 18 or over, are not prohibited against cultivating cannabis.
so you believe you can grow as large a non med garden as you want legally?
ok there is the problem...
thats just patently FALSE!!!!
1)the poll shows diff
2)what?
3)what?
4)you do know they already tell us right?...0 plants allowed
In KUSH magazine there was a lovely add to say no on Prop 19 and said the following...
SAY NO TO PROP 19
New Laws for Cannabis users
No Compassion for the seriously ill
No Medicating in Same Building with your children
Zero Tolerance for Medicating in Public (Even Discreetly)
More Tax on your Medical Cannabis
votenoonporposition19.org
I thought that made it plain and simple for folks that need common sense reasons and Richard Lee is all about himself IMO just look at the greedy grin he gives when asked about how much he sells in Marijuana Inc! Like a lil Dick Cheney looking at a demolished country!
SAY NO TO PROP 19
New Laws for Cannabis users
No Compassion for the seriously ill
No Medicating in Same Building with your children
Zero Tolerance for Medicating in Public (Even Discreetly)
More Tax on your Medical Cannabis
votenoonporposition19.org
I thought that made it plain and simple for folks that need common sense reasons and Richard Lee is all about himself IMO just look at the greedy grin he gives when asked about how much he sells in Marijuana Inc! Like a lil Dick Cheney looking at a demolished country!
If your too ignorant to read the proposal and take your voting advice from a paid advertisement in a third rate marijuana magazine, you shouldnt be allowed to vote in the first place.
so, its all about you? fuck the rest? this is the attitude that, while we prob cant completely weed out(no pun intended) of our community, there are always gonna be a few peeps w this attitude, hopefully we will be able to defeat this attitude at the polls. hope so. for all our sakes
1.) The poll shows that solid no's are wining against solid yes. The people who have been pressured into voting yes count as well, and in that case yes wins, but they admit the bill sucks, and its a sad day when someone will vote for something they aren't happy with. Also, some of those people double voted yes.
2.) What is it that you dont understand? California will just mismanage this money and put us into even a bigger hole.
3.) Some people will talk about how commercial growers dont want it legalized, and I'm showing that not all are the same, and the smart commercial growers that grow good product can only benefit from legalization.
I make this disclaimer because a lot of people will just jump to calling one a profit driven anti, when in fact many are not.
4.) Where have you been since the nineties? Californians can, and have been growing a TON of weed legally. Where does it say Californians can grow a total of 0 plants?
No, I never said non med garden. So dont try and act like I did.
i guess i can add another shitty rag to the pile of "not worth shit" mags about cannabis...haha...what a bunch of idiots...they publish a mag about cannabis and dont want prop 19? i wonder which dispensary publishes it? or which dispensary owner...or was it a paid advertisement?
Are you joking? Because I'm voting no I'm thinking only of myself? How thick do you have to be to come to that conclusion?
Fuck the rest? What the hell does that mean? We, I, have done SO MUCH for the entire country in terms of cannabis legalization/decriminalization. This is the biggest step we've taken and we better do it right.
I'm wanting to do things right, not as fast as we can. "Fuck all the rest", what a joke. How is the rest getting fucked? Who is the rest you're talking about? The rest of the nation that does nothing (relatively speaking) to further their own movement but jump down our busy throats to make it easier for them? Is that the rest? Because you can't be talking about Californians, because everyone who wants to smoke, does so without prosecution (unless its something obnoxious that would get you in trouble with TRC2010 anyways).
this poll means Jack shit,,,, it's a growers forum. most smokers I know never heard about icmag,,, I mean we hot what 150-200 votes out of 34 million??? All polls show 19 passing. Ic is the only poll I seen that shows different and were still beating em. 19 will pass regardless of what these cats think
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sorry man...no offense, but your arguments are doing absolutely nothing to overcome the moral issue at stake. dont feel like im jumping down your throat, i havent seen a single anti 19 put one single argument up that would convince me there is more evil then good in this bill...not a single solitary argument ANY of you are making...some good points have been brought up, but beyond that, nothing....i try to stay away from these threads...but i get sucked back in occasionally...i didnt take the time to dissect the arguments specifically, i am incapable of doing that and holding my temper and patience in check...but if you have any more questions for me, it IS a slow day at work, i can prob take the time to answer them
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maybe we have a different frame of reference...maybe thats why we dont see eye to eye on the issue...prime example: i do not think of 50 years as "as fast as we can"...this possibly could be another example of the generation gap in attitudes...im an old fucker
ohh i see where you are confused..
19 is for recreational ans 215/420 for med...
this thread is about 19.
currently non medical is PROHIBITED. 19 changes that. why would you want the prohibition to continue?
http://issuu.com/kushla/docs/kushla0809webbook-1
its a ad rag for the Venice Beach "doctors" LMAO
no articles AT ALL!!!!
all paid adverts from the worst scumbags on the planet!
these fuckers are the reason med patients in non med states are denied life saving medicine!
whoever posted from that toilet paper should seek help.
its a ad rag for the Venice Beach "doctors" LMAO
no articles AT ALL!!!!
all paid adverts from the worst scumbags on the planet!
these fuckers are the reason med patients in non med states are denied life saving medicine!
whoever posted from that toilet paper should seek help.
After a Rancho Cordova woman complained last year about the skunky smell of pot being grown by a medical marijuana-using neighbor, one City Council member suggested a ban on residential pot cultivation.
That proposal went nowhere. But now Rancho Cordova is asking voters to make the city the first in California to approve a tax on home-grown pot for personal use.
Advocates for medical marijuana and a state initiative to legalize pot for recreational use say the proposed tax is so prohibitive that virtually no one could afford to grow marijuana in the Sacramento County city.
The city's Personal Cannabis Cultivation Tax measure on the Nov. 2 ballot would impose an annual tax of $600 per square foot on indoor marijuana cultivation of up to and including 25 square feet, and a $900-per-square-foot tax for anything larger.
The full story is here....http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/29/2990666/california-town-wants-to-tax-marijuana.html
This is why I have doubts about my decision to vote yes on 19. I'm pretty darn sure most of the state will end up just like this. It already has in many cities and counties through-out California. Pot smokers, medical or recommended...are not wanted here legal or not. This is the new way, tax cannabis and regulate it into extinction.
That proposal went nowhere. But now Rancho Cordova is asking voters to make the city the first in California to approve a tax on home-grown pot for personal use.
Advocates for medical marijuana and a state initiative to legalize pot for recreational use say the proposed tax is so prohibitive that virtually no one could afford to grow marijuana in the Sacramento County city.
The city's Personal Cannabis Cultivation Tax measure on the Nov. 2 ballot would impose an annual tax of $600 per square foot on indoor marijuana cultivation of up to and including 25 square feet, and a $900-per-square-foot tax for anything larger.
The full story is here....http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/29/2990666/california-town-wants-to-tax-marijuana.html
This is why I have doubts about my decision to vote yes on 19. I'm pretty darn sure most of the state will end up just like this. It already has in many cities and counties through-out California. Pot smokers, medical or recommended...are not wanted here legal or not. This is the new way, tax cannabis and regulate it into extinction.
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