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Vaccines? Gates? Which of these atrocities are verifiable?
- Thread starter Douglas.Curtis
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
I'm spending 10-12hrs a day, 6 days a week, working with facts and pure logic. I've been doing this for about 3 weeks now.
I can't handle the ridiculous lack of logic and facts from the pro-vax educated camp any longer. It's revolting.
I wish everyone the best of luck, health and happiness.
I can't handle the ridiculous lack of logic and facts from the pro-vax educated camp any longer. It's revolting.
I wish everyone the best of luck, health and happiness.
douglass, i now have tried multiple times (one here, one from a few months back on another thread) to present a very easy to understand argument, with facts and you keep brushing it off;
nice strawman though... it's a handsome likeness that unfortunately misses the mark on logical form.
curious, can you sum up in 3 short sentences your most compelling reason or two that you don't agree with the mountains of reasons that vaccines are one of our greatest achievement?
nice strawman though... it's a handsome likeness that unfortunately misses the mark on logical form.
curious, can you sum up in 3 short sentences your most compelling reason or two that you don't agree with the mountains of reasons that vaccines are one of our greatest achievement?
Most certainly it did not.
Lyfespan
Active member
so whats the environmental input thats causing increasing numbers of autistic births?
and to speak on insidious behaviors, take a look at Amazons new autism exploitation company AWS. not only does Amazon want to use the savant ones but also sell drugs for the others, by way or their new pharmaceutical dispensing division.
walmart just answered Amazons challenge for the health insurance dominance as well, having just announced their own insurance company.
things are getting very Orwellian out there, very scary
if i am to takenyour word at face value that this is the case, it could be literally any number of things that have changed drastically throughout societies worldwide
but the occam's razor answer?
better diagnostic techniques
I wanted to add to our conversation.
What causes Autism?
We do not know.
Is that a correct statement?
Can anyone really say for sure they do not?
If we knew what caused Autism then we could rule out vaccines.
So without knowing what causes Autism it is too early to say that vaccines can not cause Autism in some children.
Is that a fair statement?
The Age of Autism: Mercury and the Amish
WASHINGTON, May 20 (UPI) -- The cases of autism among the Amish that I've identified over the past several weeks appear to have at least one link -- a link made of mercury.
That's not something I expected to encounter. I had been looking for an unvaccinated population to test the controversial idea that vaccines, and in particular the mercury-based preservative called thimerosal, could be behind the apparent rise in autism cases over the past decade.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2005/05/20/The-Age-of-Autism-Mercury-and-the-Amish/19701116593191/
WASHINGTON, May 20 (UPI) -- The cases of autism among the Amish that I've identified over the past several weeks appear to have at least one link -- a link made of mercury.
That's not something I expected to encounter. I had been looking for an unvaccinated population to test the controversial idea that vaccines, and in particular the mercury-based preservative called thimerosal, could be behind the apparent rise in autism cases over the past decade.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2005/05/20/The-Age-of-Autism-Mercury-and-the-Amish/19701116593191/
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Italian politician Sara Cunial tells parliment how I feel about Gates.[/FONT]
we can rule things out when we've investigated them as a cause and realized it's not a cause...
your argument basically sounds like "we don't know exactly what happened in the milliseconds after the big bang began so how can we rule out fairy princesses as a cause?"
So are you saying that unequivocally none of the ingredients in vaccines even when combined in a way that is not recommended by the manufacturer ...... can ever cause Autism in any child under any circumstances.
You are 100% positive?
To be clear without putting words in your mouth.
I gathered all vaccine ingredients into a list and contacted Poison Control. After intros and such, and asking to speak with someone tenured and knowledgeable, this is the gist of that conversation.
Me: My question to you is how are these ingredients categorized? As benign or poison? (I ran a few ingredients, formaldehyde, Tween 80, mercury, aluminum, phenoxyethanol, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate, sorbitol, etc.)
He: Well, that's quite a list... But I'd have to easily say that they're all toxic to humans... Used in fertilizers... Pesticides... To stop the heart... To preserve a dead body... They're registered with us in different categories, but pretty much poisons. Why?
Me: If I were deliberately to feed or inject my child with these ingredients often, as a schedule, obviously I'd put my daughter in harm's way... But what would legally happen to me?
He: Odd question... But you'd likely be charged with criminal negligence... perhaps with intent to kill... and of course child abuse... Your child would be taken away from you... Do you know of someone's who's doing this to their child? This is criminal...
Me: An industry... These are the ingredients used in vaccines... With binding agents to make sure the body won't flush these out... To keep the antibody levels up indefinitely...
He: WHAT?!
Your conclusion?
Me: My question to you is how are these ingredients categorized? As benign or poison? (I ran a few ingredients, formaldehyde, Tween 80, mercury, aluminum, phenoxyethanol, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate, sorbitol, etc.)
He: Well, that's quite a list... But I'd have to easily say that they're all toxic to humans... Used in fertilizers... Pesticides... To stop the heart... To preserve a dead body... They're registered with us in different categories, but pretty much poisons. Why?
Me: If I were deliberately to feed or inject my child with these ingredients often, as a schedule, obviously I'd put my daughter in harm's way... But what would legally happen to me?
He: Odd question... But you'd likely be charged with criminal negligence... perhaps with intent to kill... and of course child abuse... Your child would be taken away from you... Do you know of someone's who's doing this to their child? This is criminal...
Me: An industry... These are the ingredients used in vaccines... With binding agents to make sure the body won't flush these out... To keep the antibody levels up indefinitely...
He: WHAT?!
Your conclusion?
Could this be Driving the Epidemic of Sudden Infant Death (SIDS)?
A new study published in Current Medicine and Chemistry titled, “Sudden infant death following hexavalent vaccination: a neuropathologic study,” lends support for the long theorized link between an ever-expanding number of infant vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
The fact that the peak age for SIDS is 2–4 months, which coincides with the introduction of 11 shots containing 16 vaccines (within the US immunization schedule), is so obvious a cause for concern, that even the CDC has been compelled to address the seeming ‘coincidence’ directly:
https://kellybroganmd.com/driving-e...lD7-73JsvbIcZfu0-y1fRe9QrlL_xtJQSJia4u0A5Tt1A
A new study published in Current Medicine and Chemistry titled, “Sudden infant death following hexavalent vaccination: a neuropathologic study,” lends support for the long theorized link between an ever-expanding number of infant vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).
The fact that the peak age for SIDS is 2–4 months, which coincides with the introduction of 11 shots containing 16 vaccines (within the US immunization schedule), is so obvious a cause for concern, that even the CDC has been compelled to address the seeming ‘coincidence’ directly:
https://kellybroganmd.com/driving-e...lD7-73JsvbIcZfu0-y1fRe9QrlL_xtJQSJia4u0A5Tt1A
https://neonnettle.com/news/11778-b...r-rejecting-globalism-amid-coronavirus-crisis
Bill Gates Blasts America for Rejecting Globalism Amid Coronavirus Crisis
Billionaire accuses the U.S. of 'turning inward' during global pandemic
By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle
on 26th June 2020 @ 5.00pm
Bill Gates says America is 'turning inward' by refusing to work with China and WHO
Billionaire Bill Gates has blasted America for rejecting globalism amid the coronavirus crisis, accusing the US Government of "turning inward" by refusing to cooperate with China and other countries during the pandemic.
Microsoft founder Gates harshly criticized the Trump Administration's response to COVID-19, claiming that by putting the American people first, the United States has caused a "vacuum" in solving the global problem.
Gates accused the U.S. Government of being more concerned with "trying to cast blame" for the spread of the virus.
The second richest man in the world slammed the "inward" approach the country has taken, instead of collaborating with other countries in eradicating it.
He added that he believes "rationality will reappear from someone" and the U.S. will rejoin the globalist efforts of the World Health Organization (WHO).
President Donald Trump recently withdrew America's funding from WHO over concerns about the UN health body's suspicious relationship with the Communist Party of China (CPC).
Bill Gates harshly criticized the Trump Administration for not working with China and WHO Melinda Gates seconded Bill's support of WHO's work, later adding that when a vaccine is available, black Americans should be among the first to receive it.
The billionaire couple donates hundreds of millions of dollars to global health causes through The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
They have reportedly donated more than $300million to the search for a coronavirus vaccine.
"One of the reasons we are so involved in this is that you don't want the first vaccines to go to the highest-bidding countries," Melinda explained.
"There are 60 million healthcare workers [around the world].
"They deserve to get the vaccine first, they're the ones dealing with this on the front lines, trying to keep us all safe.
"And then you have to start to tier from there, based on the countries and the populations.
"Here in the United States, it's going to be black people who really should get it first and many indigenous people, as well as people with underlying symptoms, and then elderly people."
The couple was speaking on June 19 at the ninth annual Forbes 400 Summit on Philanthropy that was held virtually for the first time because of the pandemic.
"Usually, the United States plays a role in global problem-solving, so rather than withdrawing from WHO, they'd be involved, collaborating with other countries, not just trying to cast blame," Bill told the summit.
"It's a tricky situation, where the U.S. sort of turned inward on this one.
'We're trying to stitch different country efforts together.
"The European leaders are trying to fill that vacuum.
"[U.S. inaction] erodes the kind of relationship and admiration and self-confidence that people have had in us as a country," Gates continued.
He added that he hoped the U.S. would eventually start acting on a global scale in the same way that it had in fighting polio, smallpox, and malaria.
"I just say rationality will reappear from someone at some point and the U.S. will re-engage in its generosity and the world body that is charged with pandemic coordination."
The couple said that they had made the decision to throw their support behind WHO despite understanding that it is "not even close to perfect."
"But it is what the world set up after World War II to deal with things like this pandemic," Melinda said.
"And so it is caught now between the tensions between the United State and China, those geopolitics, but we felt, as philanthropists, it was incredibly important to put our voices behind a partner we know to be true."
"At some point, there needs to be a responsible plan for how the U.S. cooperates with other countries about health things," Bill added.
"WHO is involved in smallpox eradication and the U.S., our relationship with WHO is key there.
"Polio, we are close, we're down to just a few countries and that's very much WHO - where both our money, U.S. money, other countries give to that.
"You hope that in terms of protecting people's lives, there eventually is a serious discussion about how the world works together," he continued.
"Congress seems very interested in the U.S. not being so weak, that it's other countries that figure out these global problems."
Melinda Gates says the COVID-19 vaccine should be given to black people first Since stepping down from his role as the top executive at Microsoft, Gates has devoted himself to philanthropy through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
One of the organization's main functions is to eradicate the disease in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Gates' newfound expertise on infectious diseases has made him a frequent commentator on television during news coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Gates said that the pandemic has disrupted his foundation's earlier projects which included eradicating polio and vaccinating children in low-income countries.
The foundation has so far committed $305million toward research for a coronavirus vaccine.
Gates pledged that before the pandemic is over, "we will end up spending a lot more."
Bill Gates Blasts America for Rejecting Globalism Amid Coronavirus Crisis
Billionaire accuses the U.S. of 'turning inward' during global pandemic
By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle
on 26th June 2020 @ 5.00pm
Bill Gates says America is 'turning inward' by refusing to work with China and WHO
Billionaire Bill Gates has blasted America for rejecting globalism amid the coronavirus crisis, accusing the US Government of "turning inward" by refusing to cooperate with China and other countries during the pandemic.
Microsoft founder Gates harshly criticized the Trump Administration's response to COVID-19, claiming that by putting the American people first, the United States has caused a "vacuum" in solving the global problem.
Gates accused the U.S. Government of being more concerned with "trying to cast blame" for the spread of the virus.
The second richest man in the world slammed the "inward" approach the country has taken, instead of collaborating with other countries in eradicating it.
He added that he believes "rationality will reappear from someone" and the U.S. will rejoin the globalist efforts of the World Health Organization (WHO).
President Donald Trump recently withdrew America's funding from WHO over concerns about the UN health body's suspicious relationship with the Communist Party of China (CPC).
Bill Gates harshly criticized the Trump Administration for not working with China and WHO Melinda Gates seconded Bill's support of WHO's work, later adding that when a vaccine is available, black Americans should be among the first to receive it.
The billionaire couple donates hundreds of millions of dollars to global health causes through The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
They have reportedly donated more than $300million to the search for a coronavirus vaccine.
"One of the reasons we are so involved in this is that you don't want the first vaccines to go to the highest-bidding countries," Melinda explained.
"There are 60 million healthcare workers [around the world].
"They deserve to get the vaccine first, they're the ones dealing with this on the front lines, trying to keep us all safe.
"And then you have to start to tier from there, based on the countries and the populations.
"Here in the United States, it's going to be black people who really should get it first and many indigenous people, as well as people with underlying symptoms, and then elderly people."
The couple was speaking on June 19 at the ninth annual Forbes 400 Summit on Philanthropy that was held virtually for the first time because of the pandemic.
"Usually, the United States plays a role in global problem-solving, so rather than withdrawing from WHO, they'd be involved, collaborating with other countries, not just trying to cast blame," Bill told the summit.
"It's a tricky situation, where the U.S. sort of turned inward on this one.
'We're trying to stitch different country efforts together.
"The European leaders are trying to fill that vacuum.
"[U.S. inaction] erodes the kind of relationship and admiration and self-confidence that people have had in us as a country," Gates continued.
He added that he hoped the U.S. would eventually start acting on a global scale in the same way that it had in fighting polio, smallpox, and malaria.
"I just say rationality will reappear from someone at some point and the U.S. will re-engage in its generosity and the world body that is charged with pandemic coordination."
The couple said that they had made the decision to throw their support behind WHO despite understanding that it is "not even close to perfect."
"But it is what the world set up after World War II to deal with things like this pandemic," Melinda said.
"And so it is caught now between the tensions between the United State and China, those geopolitics, but we felt, as philanthropists, it was incredibly important to put our voices behind a partner we know to be true."
"At some point, there needs to be a responsible plan for how the U.S. cooperates with other countries about health things," Bill added.
"WHO is involved in smallpox eradication and the U.S., our relationship with WHO is key there.
"Polio, we are close, we're down to just a few countries and that's very much WHO - where both our money, U.S. money, other countries give to that.
"You hope that in terms of protecting people's lives, there eventually is a serious discussion about how the world works together," he continued.
"Congress seems very interested in the U.S. not being so weak, that it's other countries that figure out these global problems."
Melinda Gates says the COVID-19 vaccine should be given to black people first Since stepping down from his role as the top executive at Microsoft, Gates has devoted himself to philanthropy through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
One of the organization's main functions is to eradicate the disease in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Gates' newfound expertise on infectious diseases has made him a frequent commentator on television during news coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Gates said that the pandemic has disrupted his foundation's earlier projects which included eradicating polio and vaccinating children in low-income countries.
The foundation has so far committed $305million toward research for a coronavirus vaccine.
Gates pledged that before the pandemic is over, "we will end up spending a lot more."
