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Trump implies that he might legalize cannabis.

Zeez

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Production costs could go even lower as big money enters the game. Likely they would use the perfect climate and cheap labor in countries to the south and have already bought land and made arrangements. It would not be a surprise if big money has also planed to some sort of legislative moves to sew up the market and channel money to law makers enabling them.
 
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We'll see how well peace with North Korea goes. I'm thinking at best, it buys some time. Then there is Iran to worry about. Fact is GOP Presidents always want a war. It buys lot's of emotions to get a second term.

I don't know how much of the North Korea deal Trump is responsible for. At the least, it's his cabinet.

But none of that has to do with legalizing. Bernie would have accomplished that already.
 
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1914 Ten Dollar Bill harvesting hemp.

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Stickybred420

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don't get excited cause it will be executed the same way as they wish to in Canada. that's what federal legalization looks like
 
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Sometimes there can be multiple motivators behind any given action, hawk.

While corporate greed and manipulation appear to have played a distinct role in the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act, the fact is that in Congressional testimony, the race card and fear of Blacks and Hispanics DEFINITELY were used to gather the masses. "(It will make Black men want to) rape white women."

(*Just as the Opium laws about 20 years earlier were intended to some degree as a control mechanism directed toward Chinese immigration and labor after they'd served their purpose for the then-Oligarchy).

Testimony re. Black men and white women that, if delivered to Congress today, would (fittingly) likely have the person testifying escorted out of the hearings fairly quickly, or at least result in their mic being 'quieted' after a tongue-lashing.

But these kinds of manipulations and racism were definitely involved in the process, and while we know the assertions were fabrications of the most distasteful variety, the laws they helped to support are only NOW beginning to crumble with any speed.

That's a sad statement when we look at it in a macro-view.
 
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By the way, in my mid-teens, I got popped in Rensalaer (spelling?) Indiana, with about 5 friends in a pick-up truck, scouting the corn fields with a spot light, driving the back roads (like that doesn't stand out a bit), where the early 1940s 'Hemp for Victory' campaign had seen numerous large-tract fields established for hemp fiber for rope, etc., for the war effort.

The seeds from the fields that they had reportedly tried to destroy after the war (chemicals, bulldozing, fire, etc... It's a hearty plant, apparently) were spread by wind and critters, and the plants could be found in ditches, corn fields, etc.

It was accepted then (and now?) that via natural selection, recessive traits, etc., perhaps 1:100 hemp plants achieve a measurable thc content surpassing the standard <1% definition.

Got escorted out of Jasper County to the freeway in the middle of the night that night, after they found a corn cob pipe with residue in it, that they waved around like a world champ trophy, and in my smart-ass teen status as quasi legal counsel, I politely inquired if it was true that if the owner of the pipe claimed possession, then only they, and perhaps the driver, could technically be held. They let us have a moment to discuss who would 'own' the pipe, involving a discussion of who was or wasn't on probation already, and who had the most/least to lose.

We were told to never come back to Jasper County again, or face jail; I didn't argue the glaring legal point of there being a limited window for them to either charge us or not.. We left. Discretion and valor, and all of that stuff. ;^>)

After a subsequent more successful trip there, during a brain-dead-in-planning week-long party at my mother's home, I got popped with about 2-1/2 lbs of that ditch weed, though the bust was warrantless, and nearly all of our charges were dropped, but for 2 persons who plead guilty under coercion by/from their families, when they could have walked like the rest of us.

"Hemp for Victory.." or not....
 
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In the Seventies I went up there also, coerced by a friend (? we took MY car). Anyway, we made it back home, and I ended up with about five pounds of ditch weed, that wasn't worth smoking at all, unless you just wanted a headache. Good times!
 
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For Indiana being a 'northern state,' the frequency with which "Y'all" and "Boy" got used by members of the Sherriff's department was a bit alarming to us long-haired teens and young adults. ;^>)

The traumatic encounter occurred at a Clark Service/Fuel station, right after I'd dropped 18 dimes into a phone to call back to Wyoming, Michigan. to get more specific instructions. As I turned around, I noted there were 5 cruisers surrounding our truck. Oops. "Hey, I gotta' go. I'll call you back later on."

On the way home, with me driving on a mere permit, and the owner of the truck asleep in the bed of the truck with a couple others, I pulled into a Clark station in SW Michigan for fuel. The owner peeked up over the edge of the bed, and saw the big round orange Clark sign, and flipped out. He thought I'd done a U-turn while he was asleep, and that we were back in Rensalaer. ;^>) Silly guy....
 
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watching the pulse of the Mueller drum
i sense a quickening in the force, tracking real close to the timing of the Nixon caper
in short, legalization action seems unlikely through the summer, too much real shit getting ready to blow
not that i think we're loosing anything, cannabis again gets put to the back of the federal to do list
screw 'em, the states are flipping and the fall ballots i'm seeing promise even more
 
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herbgreen said:
Amazing how it keeps moving in the right direction... medical, recreational, more medical!


These are the states most likely to legalize at the polls in 2018

https://herb.co/marijuana/news/states-legalize-marijuana-2018-polls
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oh yeah, liking what i'm seeing
but Missouri is off the charts with the number of ballot initiatives
really wild, Missouri is kind of in the middle of the heart of darkness for cannabis
a win there would blow the doors off this prohibition
 
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Grand Jury nullification.......

An Arizona jury refused to enforce drug laws they thought were unjust

To the dismay of public prosecutors, an Arizona grand jury recently refused to prosecute multiple people in cases where there was enough evidence to show that they had clearly violated the law. Pima County’s 269th grand jury did not bring charges against people who were guilty as a way of speaking out against drug laws they felt were too strict.

“We left every day frustrated, and frustrated for society,” juror Rick Myers told the Arizona Daily Star. “There’s a whole lot of people getting charged for things that are not hurting other people.”

This type of ruling is known as grand-jury nullification, in which the jury refuses to enforce the law because it believes the law itself is wrong.

What struck most of the jurors as unjust was the absurdly minimal amounts of drugs which were presented as evidence in cases threatening felony charges. Some of the possession cases sought indictments for amounts as microscopic as 2/100 of a gram.

As part of a grand jury, members of the panel were given far more power than a standard courtroom. Instead, grand juries are put together before a case goes to court to decide whether the charges laid against defendants have enough merit to go before a judge. As a result, they are able to call witnesses and demand documents and other evidence that may be used to support a case.

In ordinary pretrial hearings, evidence is usually brought before a judge by the defense, which is expected to argue for a case to be dismissed before it can go to trial. Prosecutors prefer grand juries to the standard pretrial hearing because they are easier to control and often guided by the prosecution due to the lack of legal experience among its members.

This time, however, the jury was led by an expert in criminal law, Natman Schaye, who the jury elected as their foreman, effectively shutting out the prosecution’s influence. Their rogue status has earned them a nickname in the prosecutor’s office: “the Notorious 269th.”


This is one way to change cannabis laws.......
 
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igrowone said:
watching the pulse of the Mueller drum
i sense a quickening in the force........... cannabis again gets put to the back of the federal to do list
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I see hope for legalization here 'cause trump will need ammo for his smoke and mirrors show to distract from the Mueller team FACTS that can't be denied.

........... and hopefully he can get this done before he decides to do the right thing and resign!:party:
 
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