Trudeau, the Liberals and legalization
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Somatek
Active member
I'll be surprised if the senate doesn't pass it on the 7th when they vote next. Too many people are already questioning the value of unelected life appointments in a house that's plagued with corruption. Voting down a bill that has this much public support would be political suicide.
The provinces have already investing money in the infrastructure to distribute, so much money has been invested in setting up LP's to supply the legal market, if the senate blocks it trudeau would have the reason he needs to abolish the senate. I don't think much of senators but I trust their inherent drive to protect their privilege. Look at the last vote, it wasn't even close.
We'll find out on june 7th though. Maybe I'll be eating my words...
The provinces have already investing money in the infrastructure to distribute, so much money has been invested in setting up LP's to supply the legal market, if the senate blocks it trudeau would have the reason he needs to abolish the senate. I don't think much of senators but I trust their inherent drive to protect their privilege. Look at the last vote, it wasn't even close.
We'll find out on june 7th though. Maybe I'll be eating my words...
Maple_Flail
Well-known member
from everything I've read in the minutes of the meetings so far.
the senate as a whole 'seems' to want to modify the bill more than flat out strike it down. there are of course there are those that are asking for that but its a vocal minority.
I expect them to take all the time they can to hash out the changes they thing are needed.
I've not caught up on this months meetings yet i don't know what the OTHER committee's have suggested, other than the aboriginal committee that all i've seen.
It seems logical there will be some sweeping changes, but the Core of the bill will likely stay intact.
Workplace, Children and Fears of so called "grow-ops" it all that has really come up in the context of C-45
the senate as a whole 'seems' to want to modify the bill more than flat out strike it down. there are of course there are those that are asking for that but its a vocal minority.
I expect them to take all the time they can to hash out the changes they thing are needed.
I've not caught up on this months meetings yet i don't know what the OTHER committee's have suggested, other than the aboriginal committee that all i've seen.
It seems logical there will be some sweeping changes, but the Core of the bill will likely stay intact.
Workplace, Children and Fears of so called "grow-ops" it all that has really come up in the context of C-45
Dr. Buddington
Member
I'm thinking that there won't be a delay. I've been to three LPs' facilities around my parts with Aurora Sky being the biggest and the smallest having the budget of 14 million. Money talks and there has been enough of it invested in this "new" industry to force it through the senate.
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TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Township demands Health Canada notification on residential medical marijuana addresses
There's so much wrong with this, I don't know where to start.
There's so much wrong with this, I don't know where to start.
Somatek
Active member
This was my favourite part;
"Though not “naive” to think the owner should know all tenant activities, Armstrong suggested the quantity of plants involved bordered on “a personal business because you’re drawing on extra power, you’re doing things to impact on my home, which is not necessarily what I rented to you for.”
It's always fun seeing politicians debate imaginary problems. Last I checked DG need their landlords permission or have to prove they own property.
Really it just smacks of local politicians trying to drum up revenue from patients.
"Though not “naive” to think the owner should know all tenant activities, Armstrong suggested the quantity of plants involved bordered on “a personal business because you’re drawing on extra power, you’re doing things to impact on my home, which is not necessarily what I rented to you for.”
It's always fun seeing politicians debate imaginary problems. Last I checked DG need their landlords permission or have to prove they own property.
Really it just smacks of local politicians trying to drum up revenue from patients.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
All they have to do is appoint ONE person to read up on the fucking regs. Hell, have ONE person apply. Then that person should be able to shoot down any ignorant stupidities or "great ideas" that crop up.
It sounds like they are trying to increase revenue for the proposed grow at the nestle plant and hoping for job creation. That all being said, there are a lot of interesting people and things in Dundas, if they had paid attention to anything they would know that the fire issues were proven false in federal court, mold issues if you're stupid can happen but in the end if you own the house and cause the damage, that you're problem to fix, not the township, health canada had released their formula for how many plants per grammes per day.
If you like a treat to read, check to see the average price of houses in North Dundas, to me it shows something...
If you like a treat to read, check to see the average price of houses in North Dundas, to me it shows something...
while a dg need to get landlord permission a renter going for their own personal medical use does not.
Somatek
Active member
That quote was in reference to multiple licenses being run out of a single address, creating high plant numbers & supposed risks. I suppose that could include multiple patients living in a location. I read it to mean that individuals are renting properties, applying for multiple PPL/DG licenses & running a business. The law was specifically set up so landlords have a degree of control about is exact issue.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Regardless, the township has no business knowing, or being informed, about my medical issues or prescriptions. Viagra, Anal Leakage or whatever. Canadian Privacy Laws say, and I'm paraphrasing here; "They can fuckoff."
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Maple_Flail
Well-known member
ya.. that ain't gunna get far
If it's your residence then you don't have to tell the land lord for ppl. Dg license is different that you need landlord permission. I believe if your renting space for your ppl that isn't your residence then you have to get permission.
I can't be bothered to look at the paperwork and such, but I don't believe it is said anywhere you are supposed to inform your municipality about your activities.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
They want health canada to tell them. lol
insomniac_AU
Active member
I'm Australian and we along with a lot of other countries are watching this with great interest. I'm not sure if you realise but there is a huge amount at stake here. Whether this is successful or fails will determine whether other countries follow suit.
When countries like Jamaica legalise it's easy for our politicians to see themselves as above that but when the US and Canada start doing it it sets a precedent. My hope is in time perceptions will change when the general public see that the sky hasn't fallen and the streets aren't lined with bodies. I'm hoping politicians won't want to see their countries as backward and follow suit.
Please don't @#$% this up Canada.
When countries like Jamaica legalise it's easy for our politicians to see themselves as above that but when the US and Canada start doing it it sets a precedent. My hope is in time perceptions will change when the general public see that the sky hasn't fallen and the streets aren't lined with bodies. I'm hoping politicians won't want to see their countries as backward and follow suit.
Please don't @#$% this up Canada.
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Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
ogy, ogy ogyI'm Australian and we along with a lot of other countries are watching this with great interest. I'm not sure if you realise but there is a huge amount at stake here. Whether this is successful or fails will determine whether other countries follow suit.
When countries like Jamaica legalise it's easy for our politicians to see themselves as above that but when the US and Canada start doing it it sets a precedent. My hope is in time perceptions will change when the general public see that the sky hasn't fallen and the streets aren't lined with bodies. I'm hoping politicians won't want to see their countries as backward and follow suit.
Please don't @#$% this up Canada.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Meanwhile, it's $300-500/lb in Oregon (Unless they're saying that to keep entrants out).
I've been watching the news about Northern Australia.I'm Australian and we along with a lot of other countries are watching this with great interest. I'm not sure if you realise but there is a huge amount at stake here. Whether this is successful or fails will determine whether other countries follow suit.
When countries like Jamaica legalise it's easy for our politicians to see themselves as above that but when the US and Canada start doing it it sets a precedent. My hope is in time perceptions will change when the general public see that the sky hasn't fallen and the streets aren't lined with bodies. I'm hoping politicians won't want to see their countries as backward and follow suit.
Please don't @#$% this up Canada.
Bill C-46, a modified version of the criminal code, seems to be locked up in the senate and won't be ready as planned before legalization. Thank god because penalties go from 6 months to 14 years for cultivation to lock out the BM. There are certainly going to be charter challenges and to date the Supreme Court has been seen to be somewhat pro-weed (if I can call it that). It could backfire on them though and send prices skyward. I'm hoping they add a sin tax like they do on booze and smokes. Maybe not initially, but taxes will go up. They always do.
It's about time legalization has come around though. It's a goddamn shame to ruin a college student's life because a cop found an innocuous bag of weed on them.
They always say "We're learning from Lessons Learned from California and Oregon". Well those lessons are mighty fresh. Just 'cause you've pulled a cake out of the oven, doesn't mean it can't collapse on you for any reason, at any time.
I've always loved the quote: "May you live in interesting times." It is for me.
insomniac_AU
Active member
Yes at least it's starting to be discussed over here but we are way behind you.
Mental illness is the flavour of the month over here and those against cannabis reform are finding so called experts that say cannabis causes mental illness.
Medical cannabis has started to be produced over here but only as extracts sold in tablet form and only for terminally ill people and kids with cancer etc.
I'm totally against this and believe in whole plant medicine. Anyone who thinks you can pull one chemical from a cannabis plant and put it in a pill has no idea of the possibilities cannabis offers.
