Konradzuse, I liked your VAPORIZATION 101 THREAD but I have to correct you on two things. First, the flash point is different from the boiling point. A flash point is when enough of the vaporized substance is in the air and can combust. Boiling point is just the substance boiling off at a certain temperature.
Second, those temperatures are wrong specifically thc and cbd. They are way too low. Think about it if thc was that low when people cook with cannabis and make brownies they wouldn't even get that high because most would be vaporized. Or when people vaporize they would get higher than they would at higher temperatures. It makes no sense. Plus the merck index has thc boiling at 200C. You will have a little vaping but that is no where near the amount that would be if you get near the boiling point which brings me to another point.
A lot of vaporizers fluctuate in temperatures, even the volcano classic goes u and down 9 degrees and so far the only ones that I know that keep the temperature stable are the Aromed, volcano digital, and the upcoming vapexhale. So I think you should write about this in the thread because having an accurate temperature and knowing the proper temperature to vape at for certain substances is very important if you want the best experience.
Aromed has a webpage that can help:
http://www.aromed.com/en/medical-plants.html
I just vapobonged with a herbalaire. Kept the temp at 185 celcius. amidoingitright?
Think i might be as high as if i had smoked a bong, not sure. I might have just converted....
Wasnt my vapo tho, what vapo is the best for this method? SSV?
Konrad,
Buddy, I assumed you're European because you referred to all temps in Celsius.
I wasn't trying to engage in class warfare. I just don't have the money to buy a new vape atm. And I'm pissed off I couldn't consolidate this one student loan that is beating my fucking door down. Just sayin'.
Regarding the gummy screens: if you are overheating, your screens won't get gummy. I hope I don't have to explain that further, although I never realized it until I lowered the temp. Do you see? When I was overheating, my screen never got gummy because I was burning the shit out of the weed. Now that I'm vaping at a proper temp, the screen gums up. Shouldn't be that mind blowing.
Yes, my element only has one side. Its a knob that gets hot, and I place the bowl with the weed over it. So only one side of the weed is facing the heating element. After each toke, I pull off the bowl and rotate the bud. The irritation in your tone plus the lame attempt at braggadocio tells me you were falling for my troll bait. Relax, I was going easy on you. I'm a damn good troll, actually, but I love these forums, so I try to keep my troll proclivities in check. I do enjoy fucking with you though.
People like you aren't the target audience. I was reaching out to people who don't know everything. I actually learned a lot, by the way, mostly from people who also don't know everything, like me. I feel everything is a continual learning process. It must be nice to reach a point where you feel you've learned it all. Grats
I know the flash point is different from a boiling point. The Flash point is the point in which it begins to vaporize, it isn't the temp when it combusts, because if it was then everyone would be combusting at 300F. I posted boiling points to show when a good temp to vape them at is, as that's usually what you see when you research actives.
None of my temps are wrong. THC's Flashpoint is 149.3C(300.2F) and the boiling point is 157C(315F). CBD's boiling point is 165C(325F). As I said in the vape 101 you get HIGHER at LOWER temps and STONED at HIGHER TEMPS. I know people who just vape at 300-320 and get the THC they need, but they are lacking other cannabinoids. I don't know what the MERCK Index is, but it's wrong. NORML states THC's boiling point is 157C and the flash point is 149.3C. 200C-392F is the point in which you will begin to release combustion carcinogens like Benzene, so if you really want to start there, go for it, but that's not where THC boils at all.
If you want to argue about it try to vape at a lower temp, and take it higher. You will feel just high(head high) then you will go into a (body stoned). The thing here is that you think THC is the only thing that effects your state of being, which is not true. Cannabinoids begin vaping at 70C-150F and stop at about 226C about 430F. Combustion occurs at 230C(446F).
As for brownies why wouldn't you want to cook your bud to activation? You want to combust the bud in your brownies? What the flash point does it begin activation of a chemical.
As for stable temps, my Extreme was always stable, my SV is torch powered so stability is an issue, and my VHW was always stable. Any good vape out there is stable. There can be a fluctuation as you said with the cano, it's usually +/- 5*, but that's doubtful, and it will correct itself instantly.
Last thing if you read the bottom of my 101 thread you would see a decent sized lists of actives, their effects, and their boiling points(Maybe flashpoints also, not 100% need to look).
Also Aromed's site is quite a joke. 190-210C for ALL CANANBINOIDS? That's completely false since cannabinoids vape as low as 70C, and go ALL THE WAY to 226C, which is far out of range of what they say. They also list very few effects and it seems like they are talking about it causing discomfort and pain, which is something cannabis prevents.
185 is a great temp.
ImO the best bong vape would be my Supreme. Biggest hits in the game, but it takes a lot of user error.
The VHW is great also, but since mine just broke after a few months use, my friend's just broke after a year, I would say that the VHW is on my off list for now. You can repair it for 40$, but that's shitty if you already spent 250 on it.
I've heard great things about the SSV, as well, but haven't used one.
IT seems the best bong vape that is coming out will be the Vape Xhale Cloud so you might want to wait for that.
ETA on the cloud?
Iv just started vapour bonging and think its the best stoner experience iv had. Some one said that it dont work so good on the volcano which is the vape that I have, yet I think it works great hooked up to my RooR bong. So truthman your saying that it is best to start vaping at 200. ?