oh great now i become the asshole in all of this. im not talking shit on science it was mainly this sentence "In regards to homemade recipes and brewers, I didn't list these mostly because it's hard to do successfully if you don't have a microscope and want to make sure you're getting good results." literally seemed like a slap in the face to everything we have been doing this whole time. it is not TOO HARD to brew a compost tea and get good results. simply apply your brain to learn and its simple for anyone.
toodles. you dont even know how complicated oragnics can even get only growing one plant it doesnt matter how long you have been smoking or on the exact opposite how EASY it can be. quality tea is EASY to do, it is not hard thats for sure. you dont need all the mumbo jumbo at first to help along, it helps but not needed. most of that shit confuses the hell out of anyone i try to teach about teas anyways, mention bacteria and some people freak saying hell no don't bring it near my grow. you are right some of us "stoners" (i must not be one i guess) are very "technical" including myself and many others here. they dont just stop when adding the tea to soil, they want to optimize it building the soil to its full potential. but most to be honest could give a shit fuck less and just want potent nugs fast, they coming here for "recipes" to mix up and put plants in and add water thats it. understanding is simple, do some simple research for your self like the rest of us, its easy to learn and a lot of fun too. maybe its the other way around and you guys are the ignorant bishops, Galileo was known for trying new things in his time right? things other people thought were crazy? if i could get a decent microscope for 70$ it would be in my hands within hours. ive yet to find a deal like such though. point us in the right direction which store? will all hobby stores carry them?
exactly! not everyone has a vast knowledge on bacteria and fungi like most of us here. im saying you can get the exact same results EVEN possibly better without a microscope or knowing your tea is "balanced" theres more than one right way to do things. back when most of the stuff were talking about was unknown, people were experimenting just as we are by trial and error just like we are, they found things that worked and things that didnt. passed on the ones that did and scrapped the ones that fail. maybe instead of trying to push your way of tea brewing on us. contribute by helping, tossing back and forth ideas, instead of "oh that wont work because i said so" ( and yea i know you didnt say that directly microbeman)
you can also take the high road or the low road. even though both get to the same place at the same time. im sure you know but teas arent everything. its the soil that matters. protozoa,bacteria, fungi and all the others dont mean shit in a tea unless they do good in the soil your adding them to as well. the microbial nutrient system goes much farther in soil than any tea, with more diversity and orgnaisms. and i guarantee theres things going on half the world doesn't even know about. that includes you. and even me.
yes sorry ct guy i didnt want your thread to turn into a shitstorm. it was a good read as i said in my first post.
toodles. you dont even know how complicated oragnics can even get only growing one plant it doesnt matter how long you have been smoking or on the exact opposite how EASY it can be. quality tea is EASY to do, it is not hard thats for sure. you dont need all the mumbo jumbo at first to help along, it helps but not needed. most of that shit confuses the hell out of anyone i try to teach about teas anyways, mention bacteria and some people freak saying hell no don't bring it near my grow. you are right some of us "stoners" (i must not be one i guess) are very "technical" including myself and many others here. they dont just stop when adding the tea to soil, they want to optimize it building the soil to its full potential. but most to be honest could give a shit fuck less and just want potent nugs fast, they coming here for "recipes" to mix up and put plants in and add water thats it. understanding is simple, do some simple research for your self like the rest of us, its easy to learn and a lot of fun too. maybe its the other way around and you guys are the ignorant bishops, Galileo was known for trying new things in his time right? things other people thought were crazy? if i could get a decent microscope for 70$ it would be in my hands within hours. ive yet to find a deal like such though. point us in the right direction which store? will all hobby stores carry them?
Jaykush is not disparaging science, he's saying that what CT and Microbe are talking about is something that not many people can contribute to experience wise (it's a discipline which needs money and a lot of specialized knowledge) but that their methods don't need tons of equipment or knowledge to work well (maybe not perfectly).
Stoners tend to be improvisers, and improvising with these methods can still produce excellent results, although you might not understand why or how they contributed (which is what CT and Microbe are trying to do)..
exactly! not everyone has a vast knowledge on bacteria and fungi like most of us here. im saying you can get the exact same results EVEN possibly better without a microscope or knowing your tea is "balanced" theres more than one right way to do things. back when most of the stuff were talking about was unknown, people were experimenting just as we are by trial and error just like we are, they found things that worked and things that didnt. passed on the ones that did and scrapped the ones that fail. maybe instead of trying to push your way of tea brewing on us. contribute by helping, tossing back and forth ideas, instead of "oh that wont work because i said so" ( and yea i know you didnt say that directly microbeman)
You can choose to use your hands or a shovel. That is all I am talking about concerning the microscope. The use of organic amendments and/or compost tea is based upon the microbial nutrient cycle; bacteria being eaten by protozoa. If you see that you have bacteria (little dots and bars) moving around and protozoa (larger oval critters with hairs and tails or oozing globs) you are good to go.
you can also take the high road or the low road. even though both get to the same place at the same time. im sure you know but teas arent everything. its the soil that matters. protozoa,bacteria, fungi and all the others dont mean shit in a tea unless they do good in the soil your adding them to as well. the microbial nutrient system goes much farther in soil than any tea, with more diversity and orgnaisms. and i guarantee theres things going on half the world doesn't even know about. that includes you. and even me.
yes sorry ct guy i didnt want your thread to turn into a shitstorm. it was a good read as i said in my first post.