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As for the big fish that got away story the year my friend grew that 12+ lb plant said a guy up the canyon grew one of the same cut 20+. I never saw that plant or pictures. He said there are some pics. That guy had a small hydro generator on the creek and supposedly that plant filled a 20 x 20 greenhouse covered in supplemental lighting. It was a super sativa leaning NL5 x Haze that finished around December 1. My buddy had a smaller greenhouse with just a few lights helping out. The thing was still throwing of fresh pistils like crazy. His plant was un frikkin believable. As for the one up the street...I dunno..my buddy never has lied to me. Phil here grew like a 12+ Mental Floss the other year out in the open. For sure some peeps have had to grow some monsters last season.would love to hear tomhill or ganja chime in and see if 24 is really possible. it was a bumper crop season, but it would help settle the debate if he had a picture before the first round of harvest..density of the strain also matters, i have seen some LBs this year that have some super dense rockhard nugs and the bags look a little smaller.