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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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theJointedOne

Hello all. So i secured the funds to find a peice of property to rent. i am looking for rural dirt road kinda place. any kind of house as long it has a large sunny safe back yard. The more rural the better. Ok thanks. please help me. Im supposed to meet with a realator guy this weekend but i wanted to see if my IcM crew knew of anyting....pm me if ya do..ok

lifes funny huh....couple days ago i was down cuz i couldnt run this season but now all thats holding me back is finding a place to rent thats safe and rural....hahaha i love life...its really a blessing. ok Raspect to you all
 
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theJointedOne

thank you thank you yes many blessings. You better beleive im doing a thread once/ if get going........but darn is it hard to find rural rentals online
 

nomaad

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Craigslist. Be the first and be the best. If your financial backer is up for it, I would recommend having 6-12 months rent up front... Its is likely that they will rent to the person who comes up with the best package. I have seen open bidding wars go down for growable properties. Don't be shy about the upfront, either. get right in there and make the offer. They might stop looking at other potential tenants.
 
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CityOfTrees530

Going to buy clones this week to start them indoor. Having a hard time picking strains some help?

Also would it be bad to plant in straight compost or should topsoild be added to it.
To be honest the soil part is were I get stuck at. 2 yards of vermicompost and yard of topsoil to fill 6 100 gallon smart pots.
 

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i love life...its really a blessing.

Yes it is and sometimes us as man forget that. Glad that you put that within your post. It is actually something that I needed today. That little piece of your post that I quoted was a conformation of sorts for me.

Blessings and Peace
 

nomaad

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Going to buy clones this week to start them indoor. Having a hard time picking strains some help?

Also would it be bad to plant in straight compost or should topsoild be added to it.
To be honest the soil part is were I get stuck at. 2 yards of vermicompost and yard of topsoil to fill 6 100 gallon smart pots.

Wide branching sativa dominant hybrids that finish in 8-9 weeks inside are your best bet.
 
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CityOfTrees530

nomaad there for outside, going to start getting them ready to plant them in may outside.
Not sure on what strains for outdoor should I be looking at.
 

nomaad

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Yeah... I understood that. I'm just saying that the strains I would choose for outside, assuming you have a season like my season, would be "Wide branching sativa dominant hybrids that finish in 8-9 weeks inside"... its really impossible to tell when they will finish exactly outside (i have seen a lot of variation in a monocrop), but the 8-9wk indoor finishing time means you should have everything down by mid to late October.
 
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danimal7

Tom, Butte, Nomaad and the rest of the crew here....have we talked about worms yet? Many of you here may already know that much of the "bud rot" is caused by worms and caterpillars living,eating,shitting inside the bud ...The worms are put there by moths(someone stop me if im wrong).....Last year I sprayed BT (Bacillus Thuringiensis) about twice a week the last quarter of the grow...i still had a few worms and cats ...not too bad though

This year I plan to spray atleast twice a week , starting 2nd week of flower till the end....
you guys got any other ways of dealing with moths,worms,cats ect?
 

Cali_Boss

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you read my mind, i was just going to ask about worms (not to jack your question or anything). but ground worms, like earth worms. good or bad? and if good, what species are most beneficial? it seems like have a symbiotic relationship with most plants but i dont have any knowedge on this.
 
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CityOfTrees530

oh sorry about that nomaad and thank you for the advice. this will be helping me out.

hope every ones season goes well this year, will be looking forward to seeing what we can pull off.
 

nomaad

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Tom, Butte, Nomaad and the rest of the crew here....have we talked about worms yet? Many of you here may already know that much of the "bud rot" is caused by worms and caterpillars living,eating,shitting inside the bud ...The worms are put there by moths(someone stop me if im wrong).....Last year I sprayed BT (Bacillus Thuringiensis) about twice a week the last quarter of the grow...i still had a few worms and cats ...not too bad though

This year I plan to spray atleast twice a week , starting 2nd week of flower till the end....
you guys got any other ways of dealing with moths,worms,cats ect?

I sprayed BT (Safer Cat Killer) as well last year as my main defense against these budworms. One application per week until 2 weeks before harvest. Saw one worm once but I am unsure if it was the kind that we're worried about here. Every morning during late flower we did a spot check on a random sampling of the colas.

This year I am using BT in conjunction with a Spinosad product. Monetrey makes one and bonide makes one. Its another biological control like BT. People are also having success with it against Root Aphids... I don't know if these will come into play in an outdoor setting, but people are having problems with this pest, supposedly coming from clones in the 707. Spinosad. Edit: lot of people saying that it does NOT work for root aphids...

Between the two, I am hoping for a cat-free season.
 
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planty

Sup bro that Safers BT is mostly water... Check out the pond maintenance industry for a BT product that 2oz treats 4000 gallons...MUCH more cost effective when spraying a big field of trees...Also much quicker to go active due to much higher concentration of bti innoculants.
 

FarmerBoy

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BT links if can help

www.biobest.be
www.biobest.ca
www.biobest.fr
www.biobest.whatever-your-country-is

Product name is Xentari.
Works very well, used once in 10-15 days.
XenTari is a biological compound based on spores of the bacteria Bacillus thuringiensis var. aizawai (Bt). XenTari works against several species of butterfly and moth caterpillars that can cause serious damage to crops.
The product is a water dispersible granule. By eating sprayed parts of the plant the caterpillars digest the bacteria. Inside the caterpillar's intestines, the bacteria produce spores and protein crystals.

While digesting crystals in the intestinal canal, a harmful toxin is released. This toxin damages the intestinal wall and stops the caterpillar from eating as soon as one hour after intake, as the jaws become paralysed. Infected caterpillars move slowly, change colour and shrivel. They die 2 to 5 days after intake of the bacteria. Dead specimens hang with their hind legs still attached to leaves.

XenTari has a persistence period of 10 days: because young caterpillars are located on the youngest leaves, repeating the treatment strongly depends on their speed of growth. In open field cultures the treatment must be repeated after rain.


BioBest distributors
http://www.biobest.be/verdelersalg/3/
 
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CityOfTrees530

Looking to go get my clones next week. Have a list of strains to choose from hoping i could get some help.
*THESE LISTED STRAINS ARE “LIMITED” & WILL NO LONGER BE CARRIED IN QUANTITY*
(available in 4×4 containers) $11 EACH, 10% OFF ORDERS OF 99 PLANTS OR MORE…

Hogg’s Breath (24)
Magic Bud (18)
Huckleberry (4)
Grape Ape (28)
Orange Crush (8)
Mendo Madness(3)
Durban Poison (1)
Lemon OG (70)
Aphrodite (14)
Afgooey (26)
White Widow (2)
Blue Crush (2)
Sour Diesel (2)

*AVAILABLE “LIMITED STRAIN” TEENS IN STOCK*
(all teens are 14″-24″+ tall in 1 gallon smart pot containers) $18 EACH or (2) for $30

Magic Bud (15)
Lemon OG (8)
Mango (2)
Strawberry Cough (10)
Durban Poison (3)
Grape Ape (1)
Sour Diesel (1)
White Russian (1)
Super Skunk (1)
Aphrodite (10)
Orange Crush (1)
Mendo Madness (1)
Hogg’s Breath (8)
Blue Crush (10)
Huckleberry (4)

*THESE STRAINS ARE PERMANENT STRAINS AVAILABLE IN THE NURSERY*
(available in 4×4 containers) $12 EACH, 10% OFF ORDERS OF 99 PLANTS OR MORE…
Snowcap, Hindu Skunk, Alaskan Thunder F*ck, Strawberry Cough, Purple Kush, OG Kush, Cindy 99, White Rhino, Bluberry Kush, Jack The Ripper, Querkle, U2 Kush, Romulan, Hogg’s Breath.
 

nomaad

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All I can say is to stay away from Strawberry Cough outdoors. Disasterous for a friend of mine last year. Afgooey is a good, proven outdoor... I am not a huge fan of it, but many people like to grow it outside. Decent yielder. I got a 4 pounder last year in 200 gallons. Fisher got a 6 pounder in 300 if I am not mistaken. Snocap is also a proven outdoor strain. Mind you, I am talking about the areas around the 707 and up into Butte county in the Sierra Foothills. Don't know much about other growing zones.

Grape Ape is yummy and, according to repoutable sources, there is a way to aggressively prune and achieve monster status in 200 gallon pots. I may test the paradigm if I can get my hands ion the same cut i ran last year. I only got 1.5#, but let the fan leaves grow un-pruned thru veg.
 
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CityOfTrees530

Looking at a Mob Boss, C99, Durban Poison, Blue Crush, Purple Kush. Seem like some strong strains. Getting very excited.
 
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