Well FUCK! Hope that's not what it is.
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Well FUCK! Hope that's not what it is.
farmhouse cat
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Do you run bleach through the system after each run? Bleach kills almost everything. Put on the rebreather and spray the shit out of everything to the point of killing everything in the room (except you and your rebreather). If it is strong enough to kill a human it should be more than strong enough to get rid of the slime.
Do you resuse your hydroton / rooting balls? I think reusing these products leads to huge problems. Bleached plastic and all new rockwool / root balls is a good place to start.
Oh yea..I scrub the hell out of everything,, i fill up my 55 gallon drums and make a strong bleach solution and soak everything, buckets, pumps and bio balls. Then i scrub the raingutters wearing rubber gloves and bleach. After all that i put the system back together and run water and bleach for a 24hrs, Then i run h2o2.
Then i bomb the room.
I dont think its a bacteria in the system, Remember i ran this system fine with my organic nutes and great white etc..and never seen this stuff before. I think its a combo of a something were mixing.
Its like a brown waxy crud on the pump...never seen it before.
Im putting my money on sm-90 and drip clean . combo of both or we all got a bad batch of sm-90.
^sounds like Cyanobacteria.
this is bad news but at least you know now, perhaps averting more problems in the future.
this drove me nuts for about 1month. tried everything.
the only way to avoid it is to have tons of beneficials or grow in soiless mixes or rock wool...
this is bad news but at least you know now, perhaps averting more problems in the future.
this drove me nuts for about 1month. tried everything.
the only way to avoid it is to have tons of beneficials or grow in soiless mixes or rock wool...
farmhouse cat
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Brown waxy crud is a function of carboload / sugars mixed with my GH 3 part. Bad smell and slimy / slippery is more trouble in my mind then brown waxy crud.
I really love the dripclean for helping with this issue.
I had that too, frothy loogies but on the pump itself there was this waxy buildup..looks like old surfwax coating the pump and its hard to wash off...kinda like trying to wash off surfwax with water. Weird!!!
farmhouse cat
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This makes me think that when i was using organic and beneficials (in this system) maybe it held this funk at bay?
farmhouse cat
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I really doubt its a bacteria though. How would we all get a bacteria all at once?
Its the mix. I think drip clean and sm-90.
Its the mix. I think drip clean and sm-90.
Mrclean - i'm growing in coco using blumats. It's definitely not effecting the plants, they're extremely happy.
FHC - Again I havn't used anything but micro, bloom, and acid in my res ever. Unless I have different kind of slime going on than you guys it's not the additives. Does seem unlikely all three of us come down with the same bacteria at the same time, but ya never know.
FHC - Again I havn't used anything but micro, bloom, and acid in my res ever. Unless I have different kind of slime going on than you guys it's not the additives. Does seem unlikely all three of us come down with the same bacteria at the same time, but ya never know.
Got busy and missed this conversation.
I figured you are probably pushin some decent pressure!
That jar test I tried is still sitting in the dark,
The jar with drip clean added first now has some brown precip mixed with the loogies.
Second jar with drip clean added last still mixes back up somewhat and wouldnt clog even a nozzle (100 micron orifice) like the ones I posted up. And I bet you would hear it happening well in advance.
Dairy farmers use an anti bacterial flush through the lines, also can find the stuff at home brew whores (expensive as fk at the HB though). It would kill plants and cant leave that sht sit in stainless but in pvc I would flush the lines, then let the residual sit without rinsing for 20-30 mins then flush for an hr or more, and that sht is supposed to wipe out all bacteria.
Probably different issues here though.
Like DHF says about the Hydro whores, anything to make a couple more pennies per gallon!
Hope ya all get this sht figured out!
No pics? gee anyone heard from FHC? Maybe have to grab a machete and rescue him from that grow of his!..Hazed
I figured you are probably pushin some decent pressure!
That jar test I tried is still sitting in the dark,
The jar with drip clean added first now has some brown precip mixed with the loogies.
Second jar with drip clean added last still mixes back up somewhat and wouldnt clog even a nozzle (100 micron orifice) like the ones I posted up. And I bet you would hear it happening well in advance.
Dairy farmers use an anti bacterial flush through the lines, also can find the stuff at home brew whores (expensive as fk at the HB though). It would kill plants and cant leave that sht sit in stainless but in pvc I would flush the lines, then let the residual sit without rinsing for 20-30 mins then flush for an hr or more, and that sht is supposed to wipe out all bacteria.
Probably different issues here though.
Like DHF says about the Hydro whores, anything to make a couple more pennies per gallon!
Hope ya all get this sht figured out!
No pics? gee anyone heard from FHC? Maybe have to grab a machete and rescue him from that grow of his!..Hazed
farmhouse cat
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Im still around Hazed, been enjoying the summer festivities and soakin up the sun. Thanks for the info!
This run is doing ok but for some reason the plants look really weathered. Im getting alot of yellowing and im only at day 40 +/-. Im still having issues with my sensors, right now i have both of my sentinel controllers sensors in the flower room and both are giving totally different readings. Its driving me nuts. one says 75deg the other 79deg. One says 305ppm the other says 600ppm. One says 64% humidity the other says 54. Crazy!
I did have a couple glogged sprayers this run..not from that funk but from leaves that fell into the sump res. A couple of the plants roots went totally dry. It took them starting to wither before i caught it...but they came back and are doing fine.
All an all....everything is looking good, but so far i have to say my botanicare recipe produced way healthier plants. But then again this is my first time using GH. and not to mention co2 could be a culprit in why the plants look a little beat.
I will try to get some pics up soon.
Hope everyone is doing good!
FHC
This run is doing ok but for some reason the plants look really weathered. Im getting alot of yellowing and im only at day 40 +/-. Im still having issues with my sensors, right now i have both of my sentinel controllers sensors in the flower room and both are giving totally different readings. Its driving me nuts. one says 75deg the other 79deg. One says 305ppm the other says 600ppm. One says 64% humidity the other says 54. Crazy!
I did have a couple glogged sprayers this run..not from that funk but from leaves that fell into the sump res. A couple of the plants roots went totally dry. It took them starting to wither before i caught it...but they came back and are doing fine.
All an all....everything is looking good, but so far i have to say my botanicare recipe produced way healthier plants. But then again this is my first time using GH. and not to mention co2 could be a culprit in why the plants look a little beat.
I will try to get some pics up soon.
Hope everyone is doing good!
FHC
I remember reading somewhere about building up the nitrates in advance for the last quarter of bloom, not sure if it was good info or not. Like to know what DHF has to say about this.
Sounds like we are both having the sealed room blues. Mine is setup to move as much as 1000cfm, but have to have the exhaust fans off due to cooler weather and no lung room to mediate.
2 hydrometers 2 thermometers and a dual thermometer everything reading different,lol.
My coco grow is like slow motion compared to your grow though.
Its hard to get AC, and a couple heat scources in the same room to blend to the point where ya gonna get accurate readings, but them different readings your getting will most likely make perfect sense to ya by the end of the grow if they dont already!
Your a hell of a good grower, just gotta get past all the new added variables in this grow and things will feel more natural!
Guess I will be joining the aero clan soon,lol. Hope you guys get the slime issue figured out before I get there.
Glad to hear the plugged nozzles didnt claim any lives! Take care of yourself, and enjoy these last warm days...Hazed
Have you tired switching the location of the sensors or having them next to eachother? Perhaps you could take a pic of them side by side with different reading and send it to the manufacturer.
Good Luck
farmhouse cat
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The sensors are right next to each other...that is a great idea sending a pic as these controllers are not cheap..think i paid 450 a piece.
Thanks.
farmhouse cat
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Yea i did calibrate the co2 before starting this run, at least the one i had in the flower room. The temp and humidity are uncalibrateable (is that a word) lol
