Strompreise in deutschland ..

[Hermanthegerman]

Das mit den Gezeitenturbinen finde ich echt faszinierend. In dem Bericht den ich sah ging es um die Gegend nördlich von Schottland, südlich der Orkney Inseln, laienhaft gesagt, wo der Atlantik in die Nordsee fließt. Was die immerwährende Strömung da für eine Power hat kann man sich ja vorstellen. Nie Flaute wie bei Windenergie. Währe ein weiterer Mosaikstein der Energiegewinnung, aber ein fetter.

Atomkraft fand ich als Teenager auch schlimmer als heute. Damals ja auch gegen demonstriert. Letzt ist mir eine Zeile von Bob Marley aufgefallen, in "Redemption Song"

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none of them can stop the time

 

[Montuno]

But we are mixing the short term (due to the invasion of Ukraine and Putin's use of gas to try to bend the EU to his interests/positions), and the medium and long term...
My fear in the short term is that, at the very least, Germany could go into recession, dragging down the rest of the EU. And I would also not want this to favour the rise of the far-right by exploiting social discontent.

 

[Montuno]

Die Spanier die was drauf hatten sind direkt wieder in die Heimat gegangen, weil Dummland sie, nach eigener Aussage, krank gemacht hat.

Hier in Dummland ist gefühlt jeder Zweite ein ING. , aber keiner findet hier einen Job, weil die einfach mal nichts können, nur labern.

...Let's see if you were giving them Frankfurt sausages and warm beer to eat...

Now seriously speaking, it seems that the works are going well, and will be finished before the airport, no?
According to the Spanish news agency EFE, in various Hispanic, German and Swiss media:

Two will be available in 2022​

Germany rents four floating regasification plants to replace gas from Russia​

The Minister of Economy has confirmed that they will have a fifth thanks to the initiative of a private consortium and has defended the chosen areas in response to the need to build them as quickly as possible.

• Ten days without gas: Russia cuts supply to Germany for works
• Scholz promises to step on the accelerator to reduce Russian energy dependence

INFORMATION NEWS07.19.2022 - 06:02 p.m.

Germany leases four floating regasification plants to replace gas from Russia. EFE

The German government announced on Tuesday that it has rented four floating liquefied natural gas (LNG) regasification plants that will be installed between the end of this year and 2023 with the aim of replacing the Russian gas supply , as reported by the Ministry of Economy. The first two terminals will already be available in 2022 and will be located between this year and the next in the ports of Wilhelmshaven and Brunsbüttel (North Sea); the other two will be located in Stade (by the same sea) and Lubmin, on the Baltic coast, according to a ministry statement. These are the first regasification plants that Germany will have and a fifth will be added to them, also in
Lubmin , an initiative of a private consortium.

Economy Minister Robert Habeck has stated regarding these floating terminals that the government has acted "with the highest priority" to decide where they will be located in the context of Berlin's intentions to definitively disconnect from gas from Russia. "We have to build a new infrastructure in the shortest time possible to be able to replace Russian gas as soon as possible. That is why it is good news that in addition to the four federal ships, a fifth regasification ship is added," Habeck added. "That way we can increase the quantities that arrive and improve the supply situation ," said the minister.

The German Government has already made the necessary legislative changes to be able to connect these regasification terminals to the gas network and now it is about preparing for them in the shortest time possible. "It is clear that it is not easy. There are many things to solve and barriers to overcome. Ultimately, we have to set a pace that has not been seen before in Germany," said Habeck. According to official information, each of the floating regasification plants has a minimum capacity of 5,000 million cubic meters per year. “However, it is not only crucial to look at the capacity of the ships, but also the line capacities, that is, how much capacity can the network absorb?", warns the ministry, which indicates that the first terminal, in Wilhelmshaven, will come into operation at the end of 2022.

According to the criteria of

Alemania alquila cuatro regasificadoras flotantes para sustituir el gas de Rusia

El ministro de Economía ha confirmado que contarán con una quinta gracias a la iniciativa de un consorcio privado y ha defendido las zonas elegidas atendiendo a la necesidad de construirlas con la mayor rapidez.

www.lainformacion.com

Alemania alquilará cuatro regasificadoras flotantes para sustituir gas ruso - SWI swissinfo.ch

Berlín, 19 jul (EFE).- El Gobierno alemán anunció hoy que ha alquilado cuatro regasificadoras flotantes de gas natural licuado (GNL) que se instalarán entre finales de este año y 2023 con el objetivo de sustituir el suministro de gas ruso, informó el ministerio de Economía. Las dos primeras...

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Como nos gusta el cachondeo, eh...

 

[Montuno]

Mein Reden ..
Und Zu Thorium Reaktoren :

Er Erklärt das wirklich für Laien sehr Verständlich ..
Ohne Radioaktive Abfälle , was ja bisher der Grund war die Aomkraft zu Ächten , gibt es doch keinen Grund mehr sich dem zu verweigern ?
Im Übrigen war ich damals zwar nicht auf der Strasse mit den Atomkraftgegnern , aber als 14/16 jähriger war ich auch dagegen ..
Jetzt sieht es anders aus , Atomkraft in der ZIVIELEN Nutzung ist ein Segen für die Menschheit (Zitat Albert Einstein)

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A Swiss company aims to reinvent nuclear energy​

Nuclear energy generates about 10% of the electricity consumed in the world. Keystone / Giroscience / Science Photo Library
Transmutex is developing a new type of nuclear reactor that uses thorium instead of uranium. These plants could produce electricity more safely and without generating highly radioactive waste. An ambitious project that could change the panorama of nuclear energy.
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"When a Nobel laureate asks you to work with him, it's hard to say no." Federico Carminati, a nuclear scientist and founder of the Swiss company Transmutex , clearly remembers the phone call he received from Carlo Rubbia, then director of the European Organization for Nuclear Research (known as CERN), based in Geneva.
"It was 1990 and I was a young employee at CERN. Rubbia asked me to participate in the development of a new type of nuclear reactor," recalls Carminati.
There was a lot of euphoria surrounding the project, but in the end, the idea of a thorium reactor combined with a particle accelerator ended up in a drawer. The nuclear industry had little interest in innovation and the problem of radioactive waste storage was not yet pressing.
After thirty years, times have changed. Nuclear power has shown its limits, especially in terms of waste and safety. For Carminati it was clear, it was time to dust off the Rubbia project. In 2019 he founded the Transmutex startup company together with the French businessman Franklin Servan-Schreiber. His goal was to completely "reinvent" nuclear power.

Thorium instead of uranium​

In a nuclear power plant, heat is produced by the splitting of atoms, a process called nuclear fission. In a conventional reactor, neutrons collide with fuel atoms, usually uranium or plutonium. When atoms split, they release energy and more neutrons, starting a chain reaction. The heat generated is then used to produce steam and eventually electricity.
>> The following animation illustrates what happens during nuclear fission:
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A nuclear power plant produces electricity continuously and in large quantities without emitting greenhouse gases. However, it generates radioactive waste that most countries, including Switzerland, do not yet know where to store permanently.
Transmutex 's solution is to use thorium instead of uranium and combine it with a particle accelerator. Thorium is a weakly radioactive metal found in abundance in rocks throughout most of the earth's crust. "It is much more tolerant than uranium," says Carminati. Most of the uranium used as nuclear fuel is extracted from mines in Kazakhstan, Australia and Canada.
The thorium fissions inside a reactor that is kept in a subcritical state and is fed with neutrons through a particle accelerator. That means that, unlike conventional reactors, the plant is unable to sustain a chain reaction. Once the flow of neutrons is interrupted, the reactor immediately shuts down. This unique feature could prevent deadly accidents like the one that occurred at Chernobyl in 1986.

less nuclear waste​

According to Carminati, a particle accelerator thorium reactor has many advantages. The radioactive decay time of thorium by-products is much shorter than that of uranium: 300 years instead of 300,000. The amount of hazardous waste would also be greatly reduced. "We are talking about a few kilograms instead of tons," stresses Carminati.

Federico Carminati is an expert in computer simulation of nuclear systems. Transmutex
The thorium cycle would also have the advantage of preventing nuclear proliferation. The fission byproducts of thorium cannot be used to make an atomic bomb, he says.
But that is not all. A thorium reactor could also be powered by nuclear waste from existing nuclear power plants. The flow of ultrafast particles allows waste to be burned and energy to be produced. Furthermore, in what is technically known as "transmutation" (hence the name Transmutex ), some of the short-lived radioactive waste could also be transformed into stable elements. "This could solve the problem of the accumulation and storage of highly radioactive waste", adds Carminati.

Collaboration with Russia and the United States​

Transmutex wants to take advantage of technologies developed in Switzerland and abroad. Together with the Paul Scherrer Institute (the leading Swiss research center for natural and engineering sciences) he wants to build a more powerful particle accelerator than those currently used for cancer treatment.
The company has already attracted international partners. The Russian nuclear energy company, Rosatom, is studying the possibility of developing the reactor. The Argonne National Laboratory , one of the most important nuclear research laboratories in the United States, already works on thorium fuel.
"We have all the essential elements to build a new type of reactor, and all that remains is to put them together," says Carminati. Transmutex 's goal is to have a sample prototype ready by early 2030.

nuclear "renaissance"​

The time seems to have come for a new generation of nuclear power plants. The need to reduce CO2 emissions and the fear of prolonged power outages are making this option resurface. Currently, the nearly 440 nuclear power plants operating around the world generate about 10% of the electricity consumed on the planet.
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Several countries are already working to make nuclear reactors more compact, simple, safe and cheap. US President Joe Biden has earmarked $2.5 billion for research and industrial demonstration of advanced reactors, while TerraPower , a company founded by Bill Gates, is set to build the first of hundreds of sodium nuclear power plants in miniature. In China, the first thorium-fueled nuclear reactors will soon come online, but with a different technology than Transmutex .
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The "renaissance" of nuclear energy is also taking place on the European continent. The European Commission wants to include the atom, like natural gas, among the "green" sources to promote the energy transition. This line has the support of France, but is opposed by Germany, which after Fukushima decided to close its nuclear power plants.
In 2017, Switzerland also opted for a gradual phase-out of nuclear power. However, the representatives of the right-wing parties defend that this policy be reconsidered as part of the long-term energy strategy to avoid supply problems. On February 12 the Radical-Liberal Party will vote in its turn whether to turn 180 degrees and oppose the current law that prohibits all new construction of nuclear power plants in Switzerland. They argue that the law should not prohibit technologies that allow the expansion and replacement of such installations in Switzerland.
For its part, the Swiss Energy Club , a pro-nuclear organization, is considering launching a popular initiative called Stop the blackout to force a nationwide vote on the issue. The goal of the initiative is to lift the current ban.

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Half a century of atomic energy in Switzerland​

This content was published on 16 Nov. 201616 Nov 2016 Switzerland has 5 nuclear reactors: The one in Beznau, in Aargau, is the oldest in the world. The atom, generator of a third of electricity...

An idea for a distant future​

"It would be great to have a small-scale, modular, flexible technology to produce safe, clean energy within a decade," says Christian Schaffner, director of the Center for Energy Sciences at the Federal Polytechnic of Zurich (EPFZ). He highlights the need for clean electricity to power cars and heat buildings.
However, Schaffner points out that it may take about 20 years before a new type of nuclear power plant comes online. "I don't think we have that much time in the face of the climate emergency," he says. Another issue is the cost and profitability of such a plant. "Will it be cheaper than solar power, which is currently cheaper than traditional nuclear power?" Schaffner wonders. For him, it would make more sense to use existing nuclear power plants for as long as possible, instead of building new ones.
Other experts, including former heads of nuclear energy regulators and safety authorities in the US, UK, France and Germany, argue that nuclear power should not be seen as a solution to the climate crisis. "Nuclear power (including the new generation) is neither clean, nor safe, nor intelligent, but a very complex technology with the potential to cause significant damage," they point out in a joint statement.
However, Transmutex 's Carminati remains optimistic. "I have been told that our project is ambitious and complex. But no one has told us why it shouldn't work."
So far, Transmutex has raised CHF8 million, of which CHF5 million has come from private US investors. The company estimates the cost of the pilot reactor to be about 1.5 billion francs.
"It's an important project and if we're successful... we'll make a fortune," jokes Carminati. "If it doesn't succeed, at least I will have tried to do something I can be proud of."

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Una idea desarrollada hace 30 años en el CERN de Ginebra podría conducir a una energía nuclear más segura y limpia.

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[WIIIDZN]

...Let's see if you were giving them Frankfurt sausages and warm beer to eat...

Now seriously speaking, it seems that the works are going well, and will be finished before the airport, no?
According to the Spanish news agency EFE, in various Hispanic, German and Swiss media:

I don´t care about media. I talk to the people, that´s all.

Got friends all over the world and they all say the same thing. It is a huge fraud on humanity.

Look at Sting in Poland... he checkt the hole situation.

This guy (Scholz) is a motherfucker and cheater, and his immunity ends in 2025.

We´ll see what will happend to this heap of crap.

Btw. Nobody is drinking warm beer in "Dummland"..... and Frankfurt is far away from here.

 

[WIIIDZN]

Medien und so...

Deutschland liefert Gas nach Marokko, während in Europa Einschnitte drohen?

Über Spanien wird Marokko mit Gas beliefert. Algerien ist erzürnt und erhöht den Druck, begründet mit "technischen Problemen" an der Pipeline. Ein Kommentar.

www.heise.de

 

[Naturally Wired]

Echt ! Ich will ein Verdammtes Grundrecht auf billigen Strom

 

[Montuno]

Medien und so...

Deutschland liefert Gas nach Marokko, während in Europa Einschnitte drohen?

Über Spanien wird Marokko mit Gas beliefert. Algerien ist erzürnt und erhöht den Druck, begründet mit "technischen Problemen" an der Pipeline. Ein Kommentar.

www.heise.de

Germany is supplying gas to Morocco?!?: Well, explain to me you or the article writer how the fuck Germany does it: it turns out that it cannot receive gas via Spain in the current dire situation...but Germany is the one pumping and supplying gas to Morocco!!!

What is/will happening is that:

"German energy giant RWE Company will supply (i.e. in the future) natural gas to Morocco via the Maghreb pipeline. The German company is preparing to start these shipments, as revealed by Energy Intel, after the pipeline was put into operation yesterday after several months of stoppage due to Algeria's decision to interrupt supplies to Europe through this route.(...)"

This refers to the gas pipeline branch that, from Algeria, crosses Morocco and reaches Spain. The other branch that crosses directly from Algeria is in normal operation.
Why German companies want to do this is purely capitalist economics, and is also in line with Germany's very favourable policy towards the regime of Mohamed IV.
In other words, Morocco will buy gas from the German energy company RWA, and this German company will first send the liquefied gas (via ship) to the various Spanish regasification plants, from where it will be piped to Morocco.

And why Spain is now supplying gas to Morocco, is due to the recent change of the Spanish government in its North African foreign policy: from ally of Algeria (perhaps its greatest ally and western partner until now) and the Saharawi Arab Democratic Republic (former Spanish province), to consenting to the imperialist vision of Mohamed IV.
This change of policy has been forced mainly by the US (which wants us to buy gas from it, not from Algeria, which is an enemy), NATO and France (the US, France, Israel are the main westner supporters of its regime, expansionism and invasions),
as well as by territorial threats (remember the "Little war of the Perejil/Laila islet"; Note1), or to let massively cross the North African land borders with Spain from the Moroccan side (the last time Mohamed IV did this, he even "recruited and convinced" Moroccan children to try to cross the wire fences of the land border, swimming along the coast...).

Spain begins to supply natural gas to Morocco through the pipe that Algeria cut​

Rabat buys the fuel from a foreign supplier in liquefied format and it is regasified at a Spanish plant. Madrid guarantees that the gas is not of Algerian origin​

Maghreb-Europe gas pipeline station.FIVE DAYS

IGNATIUS FARIZA
Madrid-28 JUN 2022 - 22:51 CEST
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Almost five months after the agreement between Madrid and Rabat that reopened the box of thunders with Algeria, this Tuesday Morocco has begun to receive natural gas from Spain through the Maghreb-Europe gas pipeline. Through the tube, which had been inactive since November 1 at the initiative of the Algerian government in retaliation for Rabat's "hostile tactics", gas is already flowing in the opposite direction to the usual: north-south, instead of south-north. . The fuel is purchased by Morocco from an unidentified foreign supplier in liquefied (liquid) format and transferred by ship to a Spanish plant , where it is regasified to send it through the pipeline to the North African country.
That gas, emphasize the Spanish authorities aware of the sensitivity of the matter, does not come from Algeria. The insistence is not sterile: even before the tension in bilateral relations broke out, the Algerian Executive had warned Spain that if it sent part of the fuel it sells to Morocco, it would feel entitled to break its supply contract . Algeria is the second largest Spanish supplier of gas, after the United States, and was the first until a few months ago. The interconnection operates with the technical rules of the EU, the same as those existing with Portugal and France.


The shipment of gas to Morocco is part of the agreements for the normalization of relations between Rabat and Madrid disclosed in March and which were truncated at the beginning of June, with an escalation that only Brussels could quell with a major warning: its threat of cutting off bilateral trade with Spain, the European Commission said, violated the association agreement with the EU. Those are big words: it is the framework that sponsors a large part of Algerian exports.


To ensure that the gas does not come from Algeria, Enagás, as technical manager of the gas system, checks the origin of the methane tanker with gas purchased by Morocco and, after unloading, issues a certificate with the pertinent data: ship reference, origin, marketer or downloaded volume, among others. The gas is incorporated into the gas system and, daily, the existence of sufficient hydrocarbon in the system is certified to meet the nominations made in Tarifa, origin of the Maghreb gas pipeline, avoiding the export of gas not discharged for that purpose. The Ministry for the Ecological Transition and the Demographic Challenge, they explain, is informed of "all the steps as they occur."
Sending the gas through the gas pipeline does not entail any difficulty from a technical point of view, despite the fact that the direction is the opposite of the usual one (until it was cut off in November last year). Despite having been unused for three months, the pipeline is in perfect condition. The operation, yes, entails an additional cost for Morocco, a country historically accustomed to supplying itself with part of the Algerian gas that crossed its territory on its way to Europe: importing liquefied gas and regasifying it later in Spain is much more expensive than doing it by pipeline. With relations with its neighbor broken and in the midst of a global energy crisis, however, few options are available.
The Moroccan Minister of Ecological Transition, Leila Benali, announced in February that her country was trying to import liquefied natural gas (LNG) to make it arrive, already in a gaseous state, through the tube that connects both countries. The minister stated that Morocco had asked Spain for help to guarantee its “energy security” and Spain had responded positively to the request. “Morocco will be able to purchase liquefied natural gas on international markets, unload it at a regasification plant in Spain, and use the Maghreb gas pipeline to send it to its territory,” she said.
Compared to the six operating regasification plants in Spain —and one more, in Gijón, in a state of hibernation—, Morocco does not have any of a fixed nature. Since Algiers deprived Rabat of the fuel it received through the Maghreb-Europe gas pipeline in November, Rabat has proposed to build a portable regasification plant in the port of Mohamedía, near Casablanca. But while he arrives at his destination, he needs to supply the energy that no longer reaches him from Algeria. After the recent improvement in its diplomatic relations after the change of position of La Moncloa on the Sahara , Spain is one of the few alternatives available to it.

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He is editor of the Economy section of EL PAÍS. He has worked in the newspaper's delegations in Brussels and Mexico City. He studied Economics and Journalism at the Carlos III University, and the Master's in Journalism from EL PAÍS and the Autonomous University of Madrid.
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The German RWE will supply gas to Morocco through Spain​

• It will bring shipments to the regasification plants to supply Rabat

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Ruben Esteller
06/30/2022 - 12:49
The German energy giant RWE will supply natural gas to Morocco through the Maghreb gas pipeline. The German company is preparing the start of these shipments, as revealed by Energy Intel, after the gas pipeline was put into operation yesterday after several months stopped due to Algeria's decision to interrupt the supply to Europe through this route.

As indicated in this publication, the shipments will be made as soon as the official permits are obtained to be able to carry them out.

The flow of gas between Spain and Morocco was interrupted early this morning but has already been put back into operation to the extent that Spain is exporting an amount that is already very close to the gas it receives from Algeria.

The intention of the German electricity company is to send some of its shipments to the Spanish regasification plants in order to subsequently use the Maghreb gas pipeline as a gateway to Morocco.

Rabat lost a supply of 1 bcm a year that it received from Algeria last November and the country's gas industry and plants need to be supplied in order to maintain their production levels. The Moroccan government's intention was to install a floating plant, but the strong demand for this type of installation by Germany and Italy could have forced the delay of this objective.

The first shipment of gas from Spain to Morocco was made in the midst of the NATO Summit . The organization's new policy states that member countries may consider any action related to energy supply as hostile.

Algeria maintains the levels of gas shipments to Europe through the Medgaz at the volumes prior to enlargement. Sonatrach and Naturgy are currently negotiating a new price agreement for the coming years.

La alemana RWE suministrará gas a Marruecos a través de España - elEconomista.es

Note 1

Parsley Island Incident:​

The last armed conflict between Spain and Morocco:

The Perejil Island incident was an armed conflict involving Spain and Morocco , the first fought in the 21st century by both countries, [ 1 ] developed between July 11 and 20 , 2002 . The casus belli was the military occupation of the island of Perejil by a crew of the Royal Gendarmerie of Morocco.. After an exchange of declarations between the two countries, the Spanish troops finally evicted the Moroccan Marines who had relieved the gendarmes .

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Chronology of the occupation of the islandEdit​

On the morning of July 11, 2002, a group of Moroccan sailors under the command of a non-commissioned officer belonging to a patrol boat landed on the island and placed two Moroccan flags. A Civil Guard patrol car noticed the events and decided to approach to investigate. After sending a zodiac to disembark and warning those who were there that they should withdraw, the Moroccan sailors snapped at the Spanish agents: "Get out of here, this is not Spanish land." At that moment there was a brief but tense discussion that was settled when the Moroccans pointed their AK-47s atthe Spaniards and threatened to shoot them "by mistake". The Spanish agents, armed only with their service pistols, withdrew and reported the incident to their base. [ 3 ]
The reason given by the Moroccans was the participation in an anti-drug operation: the island of Perejil was used for some years as a refuge for pirates and smugglers. From Rabat (capital of Morocco) it was reported that same night that the islet would not be abandoned, since "it belongs to Morocco".

• July 12 : The newly appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ana Palacio , confirms to the media that she has held a conversation with her Moroccan counterpart, Mohamed Benaissa , and is confident that said conversation "helps to find a satisfactory solution" to the crisis.
• July 13 : The EU manifests itself for the first time in favor of Spain and pressures Morocco to abandon the occupation. The Moroccan Prime Minister, Abderramán Yusufi , promises to find a "very quick" solution to the matter.
• July 14 : In a forceful statement, the Danish EU presidency demands that Rabat "immediately withdraw its troops", while expressing "full solidarity with Spain".
• July 15 : The crisis with Morocco is discussed in the Debate on the State of the Nation. For its part, NATO describes the Moroccan occupation as an "unfriendly gesture" and demands the return of the status quo to Rabat.
• July 16 : Morocco replaces the dozen sailors who initially stormed the island with a detachment of Marines from the Alhucemas Base. For its part, Spain reinforces its troops in the cities of Ceuta and Melilla by units of the Civil Guard , and the Navy mobilizes the F-101 Álvaro de Bazán frigate, among others, and announces the indefinite withdrawal of its ambassador from Rabat. Spain demands that the Moroccan troops leave the island before 02:00 in the morning (Moroccan time) the following day.
• July 17 : at 6:17 (4:17 a.m. in Morocco), two hours after the expiration of the ultimatum given by Spain to MoroccoIn order for the military to withdraw, the operation called Romeo-Sierra begins to evict the invaders, with the reconnaissance of the area by various land and air means, among which were the surveillance cameras of the Strait of the Costa Artillery Command of the Army and a patrol of the Spanish Marine Corps. Next, the actual air assault operation began, carried out by the Army in its entirety, with the entry onto the island of a HU-10 helicopter from the Army (ET), which acted as a "decoy", sending messages in which the occupants of the island were ordered to leave it; Two objectives were pursued with this action: on the one hand, to divert Moroccan attention away from the point of assault; for another, Assess the Moroccan response capacity, to carry out a proportionate action against them. As no answer was obtained, the members of the ET Special Operations Command attacked the island aboard FAMET HT-27 «Cougar» helicopters. The action ends with the recovery of the islet by the Army and its delivery to theCivil Guard of the Moroccan troops, who were returned that same afternoon to Morocco through the Tarajal pass. One hour before the start of the military operation, the airports of Jerez and Melilla were closed to air traffic .
• July 18 and 19 : declarations follow one another on both sides of the Strait of Gibraltar . From Spain, Minister Palacio insists that we must return to the status quo and accuses Morocco of acting in a "hostile manner". From the Alaouite kingdom, Benaissa says that they will not return to the islet but that Spain must leave it "immediately" and drops the issue of Ceuta and Melilla as a pending issue between the two countries.
• July 20 : The US intensifies its mediation in the conflict and late on Saturday afternoon announces an understanding, which is confirmed shortly after by the governments of Spain and Morocco. The Spanish troops pick up the flag and leave the island.
• July 21 : The Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ana Palacio, travels to Rabat to meet with her Moroccan counterpart, Mohamed Benaissa, and sign the agreement. The meeting is also used to discuss other issues concerning diplomatic relations between the two countries.

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Eviction of Perejil Island: Operation Romeo-SierraEdit​

The eviction from Perejil Island was carried out through Operation Romeo-Sierra to return Perejil Island to its previous status.
The eviction constituted the first armed incident involving Spain after the return of democracy, [ 1 ] the first time that Spanish forces entered combat after the operations in the former Yugoslavia [ 4 ] and the first intervention since the unification of the three armies fought in the 21st century .
On July 17 , components of the Army's Special Operations Command landed on the islet and detained the Moroccan troops, handing them over to the Spanish Navy 's special operations troops .
The next day legionnaires arrived from Ceuta and prevented some Moroccans from going ashore who were trying to reach the island with at least one small private boat.
The captured Moroccan soldiers were returned across the Ceuta border and, a few days later, an agreement was signed between Spain and Morocco, by which it was decided to return to the previous status quo . The Spanish troops abandoned the islet, which was once again uninhabited.

preliminariesEdit​

Map of Ceuta, with the islet of Perejil on the left
The Spanish leaders had been considering launching a military operation after several incidents on the island of Perejil, with the occupation of the islet by Moroccan sailors who did not hesitate to expel the Spanish civil guards at gunpoint who, having become aware of the events Within a few hours, they had approached to warn the Moroccans that they should vacate the islet, [ 5 ] the placement of two flags of that nationality, the exchange of those for marines , the intention of erecting stable structures and, the On July 16, the call of the international press to visit the islet.
Already on the 11th, hours after the news of the occupation was known, elements of the GOE (Special Operations Group) III had been on alert. Even on the 14th it was ordered to prepare the assault, but the operation was canceled with all the equipment ready in the helicopters.
This military occupation by Morocco is difficult to understand, given that the strategic value of the island has already disappeared with the new military means [ 1 ] and its economic value has always been zero. For this reason, this fact must be framed within the claim of the Spanish territories in Africa by Morocco, which, together with the precedent of the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara , decided the Government of Spain to undertake a measure of limited force that would expel the Moroccan army of the island.

Objectives of the operationEdit​

Whatever the planned operation, it had to meet four objectives:

1. Return the islet to its status prior to the arrival of the gendarmes in a firm and decisive manner.
2. Allow freedom of maneuver for the Spanish Government.
3. Avoid an escalation of tensions that would lead to a high-level crisis (the one that requires the use of weapons).
4. Offer an honorable exit to the Moroccan Government.

There were three proposed alternatives:

1. Continue diplomatic pressure.
2. Undertake a limited military action followed by a return to the current state.
3. Respond harshly despite reaching a medium or high grade situation.

The second was the chosen one, despite the existing controversy and that continued later.
The device was raised by members of the three armies:

1. The Army had to take the members of Special Operations and those of the Third Army to the islet and take it without loss of life (they were forbidden to open fire if they were not directly attacked, no matter how many shots they heard).
2. The Navy had to block all the Moroccan ships, coordinate the operation from the command ship Castilla (L-52) and participate in the capture of the islet.
3. The Air Force would cover all the men, ships and aircraft participating in a possible Moroccan reaction.

The Spanish newspaper ABC would explain all these movements and gestures with the phrase "and all this for an island that is not even worth the fuel of the helicopters." [ 6 ]
However, opinion among politicians, diplomats and the military was not unanimous about the desirability or success of the operation (see below).
On the night of July 16 , the then Minister Federico Trillo narrated at a press conference the following day, part of the Council of Ministers was meeting at the Palacio de la Moncloa . After exposing the situation to President Aznar, he continued explaining the minister, he went out to the balcony to reflect and when he came back he said: [ 7 ]

Nothing else can be done. May God help them, may they be very lucky and may they come back victorious.

The operation beginsEdit​

F-18s and F-1s were deployed to control the sky over Perejil
F-18 fighter-bombers and Mirage F-1s armed with air-to-air missiles were deployed to cover the airspace. Helicopters from 803 Squadron had machine guns mounted on the doors and two of them take off to cover the operation. [ 8 ]
At 23:43 the three AS 532 Cougar helicopters take off from their base in Alicante with the members of Team 31 of the GOE III on their way to Cádiz to pick up five members of the Tercio de Armada , three members of the Special Operations Unit and two members of an ACAF (Acquisition and Control of Fire Support) team in charge of coordinating close air support and naval fire.
Shortly after 02:00 Spanish airspace is closed. Planes in flight land at airports, those on the ground are delayed, and those on approach await clearance. The fighters take off from the bases of Torrejón de Ardoz , Morón , Zaragoza and Los Llanos .
The flotilla consists of four Eurocopter Cougar helicopters that transport special operations members and three smaller UH-1Hs to cover them closely. One of them would tour the island broadcasting a message in Arabic and French for the Moroccan marines through the installed loudspeakers, while the other UH-1H gunships covered him.
From the assault ship Castilla (L-52) , which remains motionless in the strait, the operation is directed. Different Navy ships provide cover and protection. Among them, the frigate Navarra , of the Santa María class.

air assaultEdit​

At 06:17 (Hours) , when the Spanish command considered that the sentinels would be asleep or tired of standing guard, the helicopters arrived at the island and the men began to disembark in the easternmost part. The descent by fast rope is ruled out, as the Cougar helicopters are not equipped for it, and the soldiers jump to the ground from the aircraft, gun down the first group of Moroccan infantrymen and reduce them without encountering resistance.
Part of the squad continues its flight to the westernmost and highest part of the islet, where the bulk of the soldiers sleep.
While one of the Cougars circled the island broadcasting its recorded message several times in both languages and another covers with gunmen on board, the rest of the aircraft reach the westernmost area to leave the rest of the soldiers on the ground. Again, the machines stop to allow the jump with some safety; but the wind, of 37 knots and from the side, shakes one of the helicopters and a blade hits the ground; however, the pilot manages to right the aircraft and avoids what could have turned the operation into a disaster. However, the strong wind has its consequences: one of the assailants hits his knee when jumping, although he will continue with the operation. It is 6:20 when the commandos set foot on the islet.
The Moroccan marines are stopped without offering resistance and the Spanish descend to the lowest part in case there are still Moroccan forces not located, while the rest take care of the prisoners and the Moroccan brigade in command is interrogated. Two Heckler & Koch MP5 submachine guns and four Kalashnikov assault rifles are seized from Moroccan marines .
In less than ten minutes the position is taken and consolidated, despite the fact that the tasks to ensure that there were no more troops lasted longer.

After islet recoveryEdit​

The next morning, new helicopters arrive at the islet, carrying, among other things, a Spanish flag . A soldier climbs to the highest part of the island and drives it into the ground (the scene was photographed from Morocco by a British photographer who had been waiting for several days with his equipment of several telephoto lenses).
The Moroccan soldiers are taken to Ceuta and handed over to the Civil Guard, who followed orders to treat them as illegal immigrants. Meanwhile, the members of special operations are relieved by soldiers of the Spanish Legion . They remain in position for a few days, preventing anyone from disembarking, and build a telecommunications post with stones obtained from the enclave itself.
After reaching an agreement between the Spanish and Moroccan governments, the island is abandoned.

unknownsEdit​

Trivia sections should be avoided .

• What does the name mean?

RS or its spelling in the NATO Phonetic Alphabet as Romeo-Sierra was not explained for what words it stood for. "Restore Sovereignty" has been postulated, but the Government did not clarify it. Other hypotheses indicate that they could be the initials of «Secure Response».

• What message was one of the helicopters emitting?

The text, translations, and recording of that message were classified from the start.

• Was a joint operation using so many troops necessary to dislodge 12 soldiers?

The Spanish Government stated that the safety of its men was paramount
(the possible reaction of the entire Moroccan Army, including the Air Force, the Navy and the nearby Artillery).
In addition, the Operation was an opportunity to test coordination between the armies, but military sources maintain that so many risks and coordination efforts were unnecessary or even undesirable. [ 9 ]

• Why did Morocco decide to take such an action?

There are also no certainties about the reasons for launching such a risky action, which was ultimately detrimental from an international perspective. The need for the new King Mohamed VI to silence criticism about his disregard for national politics is postulated (he delayed his incorporation into government tasks to continue skiing in the Alps , for example), for which he resorted to his old nationalist demands that so many successes were in store for their predecessors. The possibility also remains that it was not the King who ordered the action, but parts of his government wishing to wear him down.

ConclusionsEdit​

Operation RS or Romeo Sierra represented, from its beginnings to its execution, a mainly symbolic act. [ 1 ] The Spanish government wanted to demonstrate its willingness to use all means at its disposal, including armed force, to stop Moroccan actions in territorial matters. In addition to reaffirming his decision, he was not going to give in, as had happened in the 1960s with the Ifni enclave and in the 1970s with the Spanish Sahara . Territorially, there would be neither transfer nor negotiation.
Minister Trillo explained the entire operation, renouncing military acronyms and using more prosaic language that began with "at dawn and with a strong easterly wind." These words were used by different political leaders, such as Rodríguez Zapatero, who referred to the Operation as "the events that occurred at dawn."
After the Operation, political support was not unanimous. The PSOE welcomed the Government's action, the IU was against it and the Basque and Catalan nationalists expressed their indifference to the issue.
For their part, military sources affirmed that, although the Operation showed that the three armies could work together, there was no need for it, since the members of the Special Operations group of the Tercio de la Armada were on the spot and had the means and training to dislodge the Moroccan marines, as he demonstrated days later with the boarding of the So San .
Over the years, the Moroccan monarch declared that he felt "slapped and humiliated." [ 10 ]

​

ImpactEdit​

After the incidents in Perejil, the Government approved a series of purchases for the Navy, such as the new MQ-8 Fire Scout remote-controlled helicopters , [ 11 ] at that time in the development phase; however, the subsequent PSOE government canceled the operation.
International support was not unanimous: the United States preferred to remain on the sidelines; France again sided with Morocco; instead, Italy gave its full support to the Spanish government; the rest of the European Union hesitated at first, but the Danish presidency sided energetically with the Spanish position and the President of the Council of Europe partially changed his speech on the internal nature of the conflict between the two nations by defending the need to return to the previous status quo .
The lack of international support, especially from the main NATO partners , formulated the theory according to which in the event of a conflict with North Africa the Spanish Armed Forces would be alone, so modernizing and re-equipping these forces was an important requirement. .

• The month after the events, the Navy announced the purchase of unmanned helicopters for its frigates. [ 11 ] Something that the ALTAMAR Plan did not contemplate because it was not considered an essential acquisition at that time. These would be accompanied by the acquisition of 6 more SH-60s.
• In November of that year, the Government signed the order to build the largest ship the Spanish Navy had ever had, the Strategic Projection Ship, finally named Juan Carlos I , which the company IZAR (today Navantia ) was already conceptually developing. [ 12 ] The Juan Carlos Iit is a troop carrier, but with a flush deck equal to that of an aircraft carrier and much more displacement than required for the number of soldiers it was supposed to carry. In this way the Navy got a second platform to operate its aircraft. Something that had had to be renounced in the drafting of the already mentioned ALTAMAR Plan in the 90s because it was considered expendable. [ 13 ]
• Likewise, the construction of a new F-100 frigate was commissioned , with the option of a sixth.

The Perejil Incident was not the only armed event carried out by Spain throughout those years. At the end of the 20th century, in the 1990s, the so-called halibut war took place , in which the Canadian Navy detained a Spanish fishing vessel in international waters off the coast of Newfoundland , arguing that it did not have regulatory documentation to be able to fish in these waters, [ 14 ] which is why two high-seas patrol boats from the Spanish Navy were mobilized to the North Atlantic to protect the Spanish high-seas fleet. [ 15 ]Previously, F-18 fighter-bombers participated in strike operations over the former Yugoslavia. [ 16 ] Even earlier, Spanish blue helmets were in danger of being attacked in different destinations in Africa and Europe. [ citation needed ] What makes the case of Perejil different was that on that occasion what was attacked was an unknown territory for the vast majority of Spaniards, but which brought back memories of the continuous escalation of claims of Ceuta and Melilla , and the territorial acquisitions of Tarfaya , Ifni and the Spanish Sahara by Morocco.

 

[Montuno]

By the way, that in the "WAR" thread, before the current radical turn of the North African Spanish alignment occurred (from being the main western ally of Algeria and the Democratic Saharawi Arab Republic, to aligning itself with Morocco; and the establishment of the new "Madrid Doctrine or Strategic Concept" as NATO's new strategic/military doctrine, including the African Maghreb and Sahel area in it), we "saw it coming" and discussed it extensively. We discussed how much Russia was interested in exacerbating the confrontation between Morocco (with the support of the USA, France and Israel) versus Algeria (with the support of CCCP-Russia, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic and Spain), until, if possible, resuscitating a new "War of the Sands". Likewise, we commented and saw the interest of the US in separating Spain from Algeria and the SADR(aka Westwrn Sahara or Spanish Sahara), and making the US the first supplier of gas to Spain. This would allow it to aspire to be the first gas supplier in the EU, taking advantage of the power and Spanish regasification leadership within Europe...

By the way..
¡ Sahara Occidental Libre!

 

[Uludag]

Germany

Wtf is wrong with you btw? You get that this is the German sub forum and nobody give a shit about your English wall of text? I mean did you read the description? SPRECHEN SIE DEUTSCH?????

The Google translation shit ist not helpful btw it's just annoying to read that. I mean there is a English off topic sub why you don't go discuss there?

 

[Montuno]

Wtf is wrong with you btw? You get that this is the German sub forum and nobody give a shit about your English wall of text? I mean did you read the description? SPRECHEN SIE DEUTSCH?????

The Google translation shit ist not helpful btw it's just annoying to read that. I mean there is a English off topic sub why you don't go discuss there?

But let's see, my gendarme, what the hell does it have to do that you and others don't care about my opinions, with the fact that I can't express them?
To me your interventions here (review them, come on) seem to me to be bullshit in bulk, and I do not bother you or tell you what you should do.

If I do not post texts exclusively in German, it is only out of respect for German speakers, because I have no way to verify the readability of what I write; but yes, those of you who master written German, I encourage you to use this great language (that's why we are in a German language thread, my friend), even to address me.

Of course, if I bother the host of this thread, @Naturally Wired, who has so far welcomed me with kindness, just tell me to stop intervening in this topic, which really interests me a lot.

On the other hand, I at least am getting some very interesting things out of this thread, such as thorium reactor research.
Also, I don't think my nuances about what it really means that German gas reserves are at 65%, or the political/economic/energy earthquake unleashed in the EU by the invasion of Ukraine, are epic fantasy totally unrelated to this thread.
(Joking) :Maybe you are one of those who would prefer in this thread that I put video clips of arrhythmic rappers making bonfires to warm up their dog show husky, but here we are above 40°C since the end of May and it is too hot for bonfires, I am more of German Shepherds line DDR, and here even my 7 year old niece napping have more rhythm ....
By the way, there was one of the first (I think) works of FANTASTISCHEN VIER that was very popular here in the '90s... Very good music.

Tension-dissipating musical interlude, with a dog inc:


Aber mal sehen, mein Gendarm, was zum Teufel hat es damit zu tun, dass Ihnen und anderen meine Meinung egal ist, dass ich sie nicht äußern kann? Für mich scheinen mir Ihre Interventionen hier (überprüfen Sie sie, komm schon) in der Masse Bullshit zu sein, und ich belästige Sie nicht oder sage Ihnen, was Sie tun sollten. Wenn ich Texte nicht ausschließlich auf Deutsch poste, geschieht dies nur aus Respekt gegenüber Deutschsprachigen, da ich keine Möglichkeit habe, die Lesbarkeit dessen, was ich schreibe, zu überprüfen; aber ja, diejenigen unter Ihnen, die das geschriebene Deutsch beherrschen, ermutige ich Sie, diese großartige Sprache (deshalb sind wir in einem deutschsprachigen Thread, mein Freund) zu verwenden, auch um mich anzusprechen. Natürlich, wenn ich den Host dieses Threads belästige, @Naturally Wired, der mich bisher freundlich empfangen hat, sagen Sie mir einfach, ich solle aufhören, mich in dieses Thema einzumischen, das mich wirklich sehr interessiert . Auf der anderen Seite bekomme ich zumindest einige sehr interessante Dinge aus diesem Thread, wie zum Beispiel Thorium-Reaktor-Forschung. Außerdem glaube ich nicht, dass meine Nuancen darüber, was es wirklich bedeutet, dass die deutschen Gasreserven bei 65 % liegen, oder das politische/ökonomische/energiewirtschaftliche Erdbeben, das in der EU durch die Invasion der Ukraine ausgelöst wurde, epische Fantasie sind, die nichts mit diesem Thread zu tun hat. (Scherz) :Vielleicht gehörst du zu denen, die es vorziehen würden, dass ich in diesem Thread Videoclips von arrhythmischen Rappern poste, die Freudenfeuer machen, um ihren Hundeshow-Husky aufzuwärmen, aber hier haben wir seit Ende Mai über 40°C und das ist es auch zu heiß für Lagerfeuer, ich bin eher Schäferhundlinie DDR, und hier hat sogar meine 7-jährige Nichte beim Nickerchen mehr Rhythmus .... Übrigens gab es eines der ersten (glaube ich) Werke der FANTASTISCHEN VIER, das hier in den 90ern sehr beliebt war... Very goog music... Spannungsabbauende musikalische Einlage, mit Hund inkl.:

 

[Uludag]

?

 

[Uludag]

Maybe you are one of those who would prefer

Wenn du deutsch redest.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Ich frage mich generell, was Menschen antreibt, die solche inflationären Postings posten? Das liest doch kein Mensch, nicht mal auf English. Ich schalte da immer ab. Sollen nach draußen gehen zum Spielen.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Fahrrad fahren spart auch Strom.

 

[Montuno]

I beg your pardon, please Hermanthegerman... Grandpa Durruti's blood, which sometimes treacherously takes possession of me...
Salud, and anarcho-syndicalist good humor...

Ich bitte um Verzeihung, bitte... Das Blut von Großvater Durruti, das manchmal heimtückisch von mir Besitz ergreift.
Salud, und anarcho-syndikalistische gute Laune..

 

[Montuno]

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Die Gaspreise in Europa steigen, nachdem Russland die Lieferungen nach Deutschland eingestellt hat​

• Abfassung
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27. Juli 2022

BILDQUELLE,REUTERS
Die Gaspreise stiegen stark an, nachdem Russland die Gaslieferungen nach Deutschland und anderen mitteleuropäischen Ländern weiter gedrosselt hatte.
Der Schritt erfolgte, nachdem Moskau Anfang dieser Woche gedroht hatte, das Angebot zu kürzen.
Die Gaspreise in Europa stiegen um 9 % und handelten nahe ihrem Allzeithoch, das nach dem Einmarsch Russlands in die Ukraine verzeichnet wurde.
Kritiker werfen der russischen Regierung vor, das Gas als politische Waffe einzusetzen.
Russland hat die Zuflüsse durch die Nord Stream 1-Pipeline nach Deutschland unterbrochen und arbeitet jetzt mit weniger als einem Fünftel der normalen Kapazität.
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Deutschland importiert 55 % seines Gases aus Russland und das meiste davon stammt aus der oben genannten Gaspipeline . Der Rest wird aus anderen Landpipelines gewonnen.
Der russische Energiekonzern Gazprom versuchte die jüngste Kürzung damit zu rechtfertigen, dass es notwendig sei, Wartungsarbeiten an einer Turbine zuzulassen.
Die Bundesregierung sagte jedoch, es gebe keinen technischen Grund, das Angebot zu beschränken.

BILDQUELLE,REUTERS
Die Ukraine beschuldigte Moskau , einen „Gaskrieg“ gegen Europa zu führen und die Lieferungen abzuschneiden, um den Menschen „Terror“ zuzufügen.
Die jüngste Reduzierung der Lieferungen übt Druck auf die EU-Länder aus, ihre Abhängigkeit von russischem Gas weiter zu verringern, und dürfte es ihnen erschweren, ihre Gasvorräte vor dem Winter wieder aufzufüllen.
Seit dem Einmarsch in die Ukraine führen die europäischen Staats- und Regierungschefs Gespräche darüber, wie sie ihre Abhängigkeit von russischen fossilen Brennstoffen verringern können.

Am Dienstag hat die Europäische Union zugestimmt, den Gasverbrauch zu kürzen, falls Russland die Lieferungen einstellt, aber einige Länder werden Ausnahmen haben, um eine Rationierung zu vermeiden.
Die EU-Mitglieder haben sich nun bereit erklärt, den Gasverbrauch zwischen August und März freiwillig um 15 % zu senken.
Der Deal wurde jedoch verwässert, nachdem er zuvor keine Ausnahmen hatte.
Die EU hat erklärt, ihr Ziel mit dem Abkommen sei es, Gas vor dem Winter zu sparen und zu speichern, und warnte davor, dass Russland „die Energieversorgung kontinuierlich bewaffnet“.
Die freiwillige Vereinbarung würde obligatorisch, wenn die Lieferungen ein Krisenniveau erreichen.
Die EU einigte sich im Mai darauf, alle russischen Ölimporte auf dem Seeweg bis Ende dieses Jahres zu verbieten, aber eine Einigung über Gasverbote hat länger gedauert.
Seit Russland im Februar in die Ukraine einmarschiert ist, sind die Großhandelspreise für Gas bereits in die Höhe geschossen, was sich auf die Energierechnungen der Verbraucher auf der ganzen Welt ausgewirkt hat.
Der Kreml macht westliche Sanktionen für den Preisanstieg verantwortlich und besteht darauf, dass er ein zuverlässiger Energiepartner und nicht für die jüngste Unterbrechung der Gasversorgung verantwortlich sei.

Ein Lauf vor dem Winter​

Analyse von Dharshini Davis , Global Trade Correspondent, BBC
In der gesamten EU werden enorme Anstrengungen unternommen, um die Vorräte zu schonen, Reserven aufzubauen und die Konkurrenz von Ländern wie China auszuschalten, um alternative Quellen zu den 40 % des Gases, das es aus Russland bezieht, vor dem Winter zu sichern.
Die Internationale Energieagentur hat davor gewarnt, dass dies die erste wirklich globale Energiekrise ist.
Europa mag im Epizentrum sein, aber wir alle spüren die Schockwellen von Moskaus Energie-"Krieg" sehr deutlich.
Der erwartete kräftige Anstieg der Energiepreisobergrenze im Herbst dürfte nicht der letzte sein; Analysten warnen davor, dass die Preise über einen längeren Zeitraum volatil bleiben könnten.
Unsere beste Hoffnung kann ein milder Winter sein.

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[dimodz]

So um es ganz kurzrunter zurbrechen hier kann man auch auf english schreiben, seit net so non tolerant !
Das war noch nie eine deutsches Forum sondern immer schon ein internationales da war noch nie DE als standart sprache.


Klaro is De SuB aber wenn einer der sprache noch net fit ist dann kann er auch in anderen sprachen schreiben.
Wenn man der EN sprache net so gut kann man ja fragen sollte ja keine thema sein.


ohmmmm.. wusa

 

[Montuno]

So um es ganz kurzrunter zurbrechen hier kann man auch auf english schreiben, seit net so non tolerant !
Das war noch nie eine deutsches Forum sondern immer schon ein internationales da war noch nie DE als standart sprache.


Klaro is De SuB aber wenn einer der sprache noch net fit ist dann kann er auch in anderen sprachen schreiben.
Wenn man der EN sprache net so gut kann man ja fragen sollte ja keine thema sein.


ohmmmm.. wusa

Thank you very much, amig@.
By the way: how readable are my German machine translations?


Vielen Dank, Freund.
Übrigens: Wie lesbar sind meine deutschen Maschinenübersetzungen?

 

[Uludag]

hier kann man auch auf english schreiben, seit net so non tolerant !

Ja kann man auch im englischen sub forum was extra dafür gemacht ist.

Ich mein wir sind hier paar deutsche und der komplette Rest des Forums kann er sich in englisch austoben warum muss er zu uns ins deutsche sub kommen und uns mit englischen walls of text zuspammen?

Ich geh auch nicht ins spanische sub und laber die leute da in deutsch voll und wenn sie sich dann beschweren sag ich die sollen nicht so intolerant sein.