the president, doesn't declare war. it is not an executive branch function.
under that god damn piece of paper, the constitution, anyway.
he can however stop usurping the constituion and revoke many executive orders.
Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?
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the president, doesn't declare war. it is not an executive branch function.
under that god damn piece of paper, the constitution, anyway.
he can however stop usurping the constituion and revoke many executive orders.
Are implying that I'm voting for Ron just as an investment strategy? lol Did you notice that those charts go back decades?
I mean really, if I wanted to boost my portfolio I would vote for Obama because that guarantees that we stay on the course we are on which means mega returns for metal holders. I don't need RP to be in office to continue to get good returns. I just need this systemic failure to carry on without interuption. Which it is, no matter who is in the WH. Either way it's a win win for me.
Let's be honest. RP probably isn't going to win. Even if he did a lot of his ideas wouldn't be implemented. Especially a gold standard. He's more about just getting out a message of the ridiculousness of our situation that goes back decades.
RP investment strategy is simply common sense. Those charts going back 100 years present the case pretty clearly.
According to the CSA, director of HHS may unilaterally reschedule marijuana w/o performing any additional Dept of Heath and Human Services studies. The HHS director may also rule in favor of, or against any Dept of Health and Services studies.
There is provision for the AG to temporarily reschedule but this is no indication that temporarily is avenue for reform.
Obama tried to get his Justice Dept to lay off state legal ops and individuals. But he can't dictate Justice Dept agendas. Bush and Rove were investigated for firing US Attys for doing their jobs which was operating in accordance with existing law. James Comey told Andy Card to get ferked when the pres tried to get a semi-conscious AG to sign off on illegal shit.
CSA placed 9 agencies under DEA. The executive order only applies to the umbrella, not the organizations underneath. Had all 9 agencies been established under executive order, Ron Paul could arguably have unilateral options.
Ron Paul could release what amounts to his version of the Ogden memo. Same outcome could occur. Any JD official working under existing law could legally refuse. Paul could fire anybody he wants and he could quite possibly break the law.
There is provision for the AG to temporarily reschedule but this is no indication that temporarily is avenue for reform.
Obama tried to get his Justice Dept to lay off state legal ops and individuals. But he can't dictate Justice Dept agendas. Bush and Rove were investigated for firing US Attys for doing their jobs which was operating in accordance with existing law. James Comey told Andy Card to get ferked when the pres tried to get a semi-conscious AG to sign off on illegal shit.
CSA placed 9 agencies under DEA. The executive order only applies to the umbrella, not the organizations underneath. Had all 9 agencies been established under executive order, Ron Paul could arguably have unilateral options.
Ron Paul could release what amounts to his version of the Ogden memo. Same outcome could occur. Any JD official working under existing law could legally refuse. Paul could fire anybody he wants and he could quite possibly break the law.
Good thing I got my boots on cause the bullshit is getting deep!
I am voting for him as an investment strategy. Meaning I can invest in making my own legal cannabis based company when he ends the drug war.
A vote for Ron Paul is an investment in Liberty. lol
I mean really. After 8 years of GWB and almost 4 of O are we going to pretend that the law really means anything anymore?
Author: Jim Greig
Note: Jim Greig of Eugene is a member of the board of directors for
the Voter Power Foundation, Oregon organizer for Americans for Safe
Access and co-director of the Regulate Medical Marijuana Political
Action Committee.
CANNABIS ACTIVISTS ARE READY TO SAY 'NO OBAMA'
"...rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." - Thomas Jefferson
A movement in drug policy circles is afoot in this election season that so far has flown under the media's radar but holds the potential to be a game-changer.
The movement? A challenge to President Obama from millions of cannabis activists and consumers that simply states, "No change, no vote, no Obama!"
As a candidate, Barack Obama pledged that his administration would not interfere in the state's medical marijuana policies. As president he said in a 2009 memorandum on scientific integrity, "The public must be able to trust the science and scientific process informing public policy decisions. Political officials should not suppress or alter scientific or technological findings and conclusions. If scientific and technological information is developed and used by the federal government, it should ordinarily be made available to the public."
The chasm between scientific integrity and U.S. drug policies is one that humbles the Grand Canyon. The president may be able to carry a tune, but he plays the fool in not moving toward the real science of cannabis.
As we know from recent raids in Southern Oregon, California, Montana and Colorado, the deeply entrenched federal drug war bureaucracy is doing its utmost to squash states' medical cannabis programs.
In a news release last October the Drug Policy Alliance called Obama's medical cannabis policies worse than the policies of the Bush and Clinton administrations. That's saying something.
But the real crux has been in Obama's condescending disregard for the dozens of marijuana legalization questions in online polls, White House "We the People" petitions and Twitter and YouTube townhall-type events.
In every case, the No. 1 question asked was on marijuana re-legalization. In every response but one, the president was at best dismissive.
In January of 2011 he did finally answer, responding to a YouTube question from MacKenzie Allen, a retired deputy sheriff, now a member of and speaker for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. In his statement, the president said that drug legalization is "an entirely legitimate topic for debate."
Well, Mr. President, here's a fact your re-election staff hasn't told you: The reason cannabis was the top vote winner over and over again is because it's important to millions of people who are one-issue voters and highly motivated to vote. And we are eager for that debate.
In the presidential election years, turnout among young voters is high - - a vote I am sure Obama would like to count on.
What he apparently doesn't realize is that polling shows that two-thirds of voters between the ages of 18 and 25 support the legalization of cannabis.
Drug policy activists, especially us medical cannabis types, are angered by our president.
In Oregon the rising tide of dissatisfaction has led to the founding of six chapters of Students for Sensible Drug Policy on our college campuses, and state cannabis activists are having discussions on the formation of a statewide coalition specifically to deal with the constant assaults on the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program.
Clearly, there is no doubt that cannabis has proper medical uses, just as there is no doubt about the science of medical marijuana. Unfortunately, since cannabis is still a Schedule I drug in the Controlled Substances Act ( meaning it has no accepted medical use in the United States ), and because of the power of the multi-billion-dollar drug war bureaucracy, the only studies allowed to be conducted in the United States are those seeking to find harm in cannabis use.
Every responsible American should be feeling the pain as cannabis patients, medical cannabis programs and the truth all try to survive under government edicts based not on science, but on plain old-fashioned lies.
We, the people, are the leaders on this issue, and we are fed up. We are ready to demonstrate our dissatisfaction in the voting booth. Candidate Obama promised change. President Obama has not changed a thing.
This will not be tolerated. We say no. No change, no vote, no Obama.
Note: Jim Greig of Eugene is a member of the board of directors for
the Voter Power Foundation, Oregon organizer for Americans for Safe
Access and co-director of the Regulate Medical Marijuana Political
Action Committee.
CANNABIS ACTIVISTS ARE READY TO SAY 'NO OBAMA'
"...rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." - Thomas Jefferson
A movement in drug policy circles is afoot in this election season that so far has flown under the media's radar but holds the potential to be a game-changer.
The movement? A challenge to President Obama from millions of cannabis activists and consumers that simply states, "No change, no vote, no Obama!"
As a candidate, Barack Obama pledged that his administration would not interfere in the state's medical marijuana policies. As president he said in a 2009 memorandum on scientific integrity, "The public must be able to trust the science and scientific process informing public policy decisions. Political officials should not suppress or alter scientific or technological findings and conclusions. If scientific and technological information is developed and used by the federal government, it should ordinarily be made available to the public."
The chasm between scientific integrity and U.S. drug policies is one that humbles the Grand Canyon. The president may be able to carry a tune, but he plays the fool in not moving toward the real science of cannabis.
As we know from recent raids in Southern Oregon, California, Montana and Colorado, the deeply entrenched federal drug war bureaucracy is doing its utmost to squash states' medical cannabis programs.
In a news release last October the Drug Policy Alliance called Obama's medical cannabis policies worse than the policies of the Bush and Clinton administrations. That's saying something.
But the real crux has been in Obama's condescending disregard for the dozens of marijuana legalization questions in online polls, White House "We the People" petitions and Twitter and YouTube townhall-type events.
In every case, the No. 1 question asked was on marijuana re-legalization. In every response but one, the president was at best dismissive.
In January of 2011 he did finally answer, responding to a YouTube question from MacKenzie Allen, a retired deputy sheriff, now a member of and speaker for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. In his statement, the president said that drug legalization is "an entirely legitimate topic for debate."
Well, Mr. President, here's a fact your re-election staff hasn't told you: The reason cannabis was the top vote winner over and over again is because it's important to millions of people who are one-issue voters and highly motivated to vote. And we are eager for that debate.
In the presidential election years, turnout among young voters is high - - a vote I am sure Obama would like to count on.
What he apparently doesn't realize is that polling shows that two-thirds of voters between the ages of 18 and 25 support the legalization of cannabis.
Drug policy activists, especially us medical cannabis types, are angered by our president.
In Oregon the rising tide of dissatisfaction has led to the founding of six chapters of Students for Sensible Drug Policy on our college campuses, and state cannabis activists are having discussions on the formation of a statewide coalition specifically to deal with the constant assaults on the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program.
Clearly, there is no doubt that cannabis has proper medical uses, just as there is no doubt about the science of medical marijuana. Unfortunately, since cannabis is still a Schedule I drug in the Controlled Substances Act ( meaning it has no accepted medical use in the United States ), and because of the power of the multi-billion-dollar drug war bureaucracy, the only studies allowed to be conducted in the United States are those seeking to find harm in cannabis use.
Every responsible American should be feeling the pain as cannabis patients, medical cannabis programs and the truth all try to survive under government edicts based not on science, but on plain old-fashioned lies.
We, the people, are the leaders on this issue, and we are fed up. We are ready to demonstrate our dissatisfaction in the voting booth. Candidate Obama promised change. President Obama has not changed a thing.
This will not be tolerated. We say no. No change, no vote, no Obama.
No sir, I'm implying I'm not dancing around respective investment performance.
I've also noticed that I've never encountered wealth management advice that tells me go metal.
Strikes me as, "I don't like Route 66, I'm gonna blaze me another trail. If enough people follow...
"Shades of Amway?
I'm all for minimizing ridiculous. But dynamic problems have a way of making things merely appear ridiculous. Sometimes solutions have a way of appearing ridiculous when they're seen as superficial or incurious. Superficial in the sense that a particular solution (was only a solution for rich people.) Incurious in the sense that known knowns - bad things - aren't reconciled, they're not even addressed.
I don't typically eschew statistics and I'm not attempting to do as much here. It's just that something suggests there would be gold barons the likes of Gates, the Kochs or maybe even slumming with Oprah.
If metal has performed so well, for so long and will never be worth "nothing"
I'm curious why you're still in the conventional game.
The house of cards is built with paper. Brokers are paid to peddle paper. I've never encountered a broker or "expert" that said to go metal either. In fact they try to convince you that metals are bad and paper products are good.
I stop listening to the "experts" a while ago. I look at the data and think for myself and my portfolio (as has RP's) has outperformed the market by a wide margin. Now that we are stuck with ZIRP my returns are locked in. Bernanke is stuck in a liquidity trap.
Route 66 is for those that don't mind losing money to negative interest rates and don't grasp the difference between nominal and real returns.
The problem isn't all that dynamic or new. There's way too much debt and unfunded obligations that aren't going to be paid primarily because of changing demographics and the state of the real economy. Attempting to fill that hole with fiat and more borrowed money is going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
It's a ridiculous situation just because it's been tried so many times in history and it never works.
the president said that drug legalization is "an entirely legitimate topic for debate."
Yeah, only he won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Good reason why...He doesn't want to lose the evangelicals that think Santorum is too far to the right...
He's pissed off the Catholics...Come to think of it, he's pissed off just about everybody with a brain.
Except his asshole buddy and Goldman Sachs bagman Lloyd Blankfein. They're still very cool.
I'll bet his pal Lloyd is hooking him up with the kind and he and Michelle are burning like a chimney in the Lincoln bedroom.
Executive privilege.
Yeah, only he won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Good reason why...He doesn't want to lose the evangelicals that think Santorum is too far to the right...
He's pissed off the Catholics...Come to think of it, he's pissed off just about everybody with a brain.
Except his asshole buddy and Goldman Sachs bagman Lloyd Blankfein. They're still very cool.
I'll bet his pal Lloyd is hooking him up with the kind and he and Michelle are burning like a chimney in the Lincoln bedroom.
Executive privilege.
Because the conventional game is liquid and nominal returns can be flipped back into physical metal for preserving wealth.
Also, for example, if you were in Siemens stock before Wiemar collapsed you got hammered no doubt, but you still came out ok. You have to own stock in the right companies though and not all these ponzi index funds and other paper BS that the "experts" peddle for commission.
I imagine Corzine is bringing the cocaine and hookers to the party.
^are they even available separately? I don't even see the point of having one with out the other. lol
Why would you want change? If all this paper's going up in flames, wouldn't you be in better shape - with more gold than the guy who monetizes his system with gold, arguably making gold less available to individuals? In order to back our system with gold, wouldn't we need to round it all up and centralize it in Fort Knox, allowing a relative few to manage it's existence?
You said yourself that either way you're covered. I personally feel I'm targeting my retirement plan accordingly but I'm not compelled to get everybody to go along with it.
Unless I could come up with something better than the status quot is gonna blow, I imagine folks thinking, "Something's in it for him and he's not saying". Rather than
it's more like in one ear and out the other.Amway salesmen have a way of making you feel like there's something they're not disclosing. What they don't disclose is a system where the top thrives by scraping the cream from bottom feeders who, as a result never make it.
rock on
The ounce I stuffed in my mattress in the 1930s was worth $39 - today it's above $1500. Yet not only isn't my $1500 1932 dollars, had I kept my gold standard, I'd just have to assume gold would have eclipsed $1500/oz.
IMO, one problem is taking a less than dynamic look at the subject of printing more money. There's more to it than the printing function.
Where in history did anybody implement GDP-based currency values?
If the US backed it's currency in gold individuals would still be able to buy bullion on the open market. Just as they could when we were on the gold standard. Well, that was until FDR attempted to confiscate everyone's gold in 1933. People with the resources moved their gold to Switzerland where individuals could legally own gold bullion
I really don't feel the US would ever go back to a true gold standard anyway. I think the world is going to drop the USD as the reserve currency and trade in local currencies or gold.
I'm not trying to get everyone to go along with my investing strategy, but when it's mocked as if it's unreasonable I'll explain it. I'd rather not have everyone jump into metals. Gives me time to acquire larger positions at a cheaper price.
The 10y is at 1.95-2%. Real inflation is 8% if you believe the recent CBS report, 6% using the 1990 CPI formula, or 11% if you use 1980 CPI calculations before the BLS started changing the formula to get the desired answer.Unless I could come up with something better than the status quot is gonna blow, I imagine folks thinking, "Something's in it for him and he's not saying". Rather than
This means you are getting anywhere between a -6% and -9% real rate of return sitting in 10y bonds.
Between -8% and -10% yearly real rate of return sitting in a savings account or money market account.
Most equity portfolios nominally return between 3% and 8% (being generous here) which means you're getting between a -8% and -3% real rate of return.
Even the awesome 6% annuities are going to be a negative real rate of return when adjusted for real inflation.
So no matter what paper product one has their money in they are most likely losing significant amounts of purchasing power year to year. Unfortunately with ZIRP locked in and other countries looking to bypass the USD as the reserve currency this is going to get worse. People's savings may not "blow up", but at best evaporate at a steady, and likely accelerating, pace.
If you buy into the BLS's new 2012 CPI calculation (which recently adjusted the formula again) then you'll be able to sleep good at night. IMO an institution that constantly changes a formula to achieve a certain answer is being disingenuous at best. I call it lying and stealing. Yes yes the BLS is a non-partisan entity. Riiiight. The reasoning they give for constantly changing the formula should be an example for obfuscation in Webster's Dictionary.
Why The Consumer Price Index Is Controversial
Sounds like today's centrally rigged casino, er, stock market.
Inflation from monetary debasement is inflation.
I was speaking more to monetizing a welfare/warfare state. Wiemar. Expect these days it's digital 1's and 0's, but the underlying principle of loss of confidence remains the same.
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At least Ron Paul can relate to a middle class American!
At least Ron Paul can relate to a middle class American!
Obummer needed our vote to get in the White House, last time. He doesn't need us "weed fiends" anymore now that he has a Trillion dollar war chest and a life time of pay back coming, for bending over for the big money boys.
Anyone who can afford to spend 1.5 million on a vacation doesn't know what the hell the big deal is about health insurance, skimping to buy gas for next week, or deciding which bills to pay and which will have to wait. They can't relate to us doing those things anymore than I can relate to spending that kind of money on a vacation.
This guy is a doctor for peat sakes and he can't even relate!
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At least Ron Paul can relate to a middle class American!
Obummer needed our vote to get in the White House, last time. He doesn't need us "weed fiends" anymore now that he has a Trillion dollar war chest and a life time of pay back coming, for bending over for the big money boys.
Anyone who can afford to spend 1.5 million on a vacation doesn't know what the hell the big deal is about health insurance, skimping to buy gas for next week, or deciding which bills to pay and which will have to wait. They can't relate to us doing those things anymore than I can relate to spending that kind of money on a vacation.
This guy is a doctor for peat sakes and he can't even relate!
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You are absolutely correct, i am wrong, and was only wrong because after FDR the presidents have sent troops wherever they wished.
I am however unaware of a US Congress declaring war without the Presidents request, but technically you are correct.
I dont foresee Dr Paul requesting many wars.
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Why is gold better than cowrie shells again?
Rather than anyone being able to dig up gold (or find beautiful sea shells), only the USA can print dollars, seems like a kushy spot to be in. (Forget superdollars, that is missing my point.)
Britain dominated the sea, and by default the world, for two centuries. She had to sell her 'empire' to repel the Nazis and keep 'The Commonwealth'. The US stepped in (Destroyers for Bases) and has rigged the system to our (western world) advantage ever since.
The Soviets werent going to manipulate the monetary system, they were communist, they hated the whole fucking thing, they were not going to participate, leaving a free hand for the US and Britain.
And why replace something we totally dominate with something we cannot?
The 'Austrian' Economic model... referencing a country that has NEVER dominated economically. I would be surprised to know historically if they were ever in the top 5 world economies.
So why is gold better than cowrie shells again?
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All the Dr Paul fans should like this too, although i havent heard Dr Paul mention it.
Ludlow Amendment
He would probabaly disagree with the second section.
Ludlow Amendment
He would probabaly disagree with the second section.
The house of cards is built with paper. Brokers are paid to peddle paper. I've never encountered a broker or "expert" that said to go metal either. In fact they try to convince you that metals are bad and paper products are good.
Hehe,
Wrong Gramps. My broker was busy trying to push Gold ETF's when I sold my commercial building and asked about metals in '07.Selling nonexistent paper gold generate broker profits. Got rid of him.
I wasn't buying the 'temporary dislocation' kaka in real estate. Even a dummy like me can figure out when prices on comm.property far exceed any possible income generated resulting in a permanent negative cash flow, that the inmates had taken over the asylum.
That 'temporary parking' money in metal became permanent as the numbers rose daily and slowly started taking possession when my local fuddy-duddy bank printed a full page ad in the paper saying they didn't trade in derivatives and depositors money was safe. To me that was a huge sign that we were well and truly screwed. When small single banks fear bank runs they're telling you something is very wrong in banking on the whole.
Turns out my instincts were right as the sheer magnitude of fuckery became known.
Even the big gold & silver dump the CB pulled the other day after Benny soothed and fondled investors doesn't worry me a bit. They can only manipulate metal prices so much before demand reasserts pricing. Bet they made a few bucks on the shorts though.
Notice the pump in the market?
C'mon in...the water's fine. Cue 'Jaws' music.
These assholes are so far out of control that they don't even pretend to be legit anymore.
S'ok by me but anyone who has not taken control of their retirement or investment money and switched to hard assets are gonna get slaughtered.
Again.
This is like watching the world of finance play Jenga. It doesn't matter how slow you pull the blocks out because there can only be one outcome eventually.
Us crazy gold bugs who hold physical metal are like honey-badger...
We just don't give a shit.
Hehe,
Wrong Gramps. My broker was busy trying to push Gold ETF's when I sold my commercial building and asked about metals in '07.Selling nonexistent paper gold generate broker profits. Got rid of him.
I wasn't buying the 'temporary dislocation' kaka in real estate. Even a dummy like me can figure out when prices on comm.property far exceed any possible income generated resulting in a permanent negative cash flow, that the inmates had taken over the asylum.
That 'temporary parking' money in metal became permanent as the numbers rose daily and slowly started taking possession when my local fuddy-duddy bank printed a full page ad in the paper saying they didn't trade in derivatives and depositors money was safe. To me that was a huge sign that we were well and truly screwed. When small single banks fear bank runs they're telling you something is very wrong in banking on the whole.
Turns out my instincts were right as the sheer magnitude of fuckery became known.
Even the big gold & silver dump the CB pulled the other day after Benny soothed and fondled investors doesn't worry me a bit. They can only manipulate metal prices so much before demand reasserts pricing. Bet they made a few bucks on the shorts though.
Notice the pump in the market?
C'mon in...the water's fine. Cue 'Jaws' music.
These assholes are so far out of control that they don't even pretend to be legit anymore.
S'ok by me but anyone who has not taken control of their retirement or investment money and switched to hard assets are gonna get slaughtered.
Again.
This is like watching the world of finance play Jenga. It doesn't matter how slow you pull the blocks out because there can only be one outcome eventually.
Us crazy gold bugs who hold physical metal are like honey-badger...
We just don't give a shit.
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