Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?
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You're not countering the argument, you're sustaining it. We paid for the war, we just financed it for a few decades. It's takes years for interest to mature so that in itself says the idea the fed is printing worthless money just glosses over aspects the messenger doesn't want to see nor convey. He's either obtuse or he's duping you.
split hair. = Vietnam era provides direct connection between inflation of the money supply and war finance.
LOL
one problem - you can't point to the hyper inflation
Ron's a crafty little feller. He doesn't pull this half-happen shit on people who know how we generate money.
Maybe not hyper inflation but certainly a significant jump.
Funny looks like we had the highest rates of inflation right after the fed was created
Please note we have both used different sources proving the same point to you. Where is your evidence?
War increased domestic spending accelerated inflation, maybe not hperinflaton but then again......WHO IS THE ONE SPLITTING HAIRS HERE?
War induced Accelerated inflation / Hyperinflation.....Who is spliting hairs.
War increased domestic spending accelerated inflation, maybe not hperinflaton but then again......WHO IS THE ONE SPLITTING HAIRS HERE?
War induced Accelerated inflation / Hyperinflation.....Who is spliting hairs.
Oh, I guess inflation is now hyperinflation. Nobody suggested interest rates are static.
A meteor might hit the earth but it isn't imminent. Ron Paul has to tweak imminent but all he has is words.
Double digit inflation was a product of two oil embargoes betwixt two recessions. These recessions weren't bad in their own right, they were exacerbated by the oil embargo and energy crisis. Long story short, we had the ability to manage interest rates when unforeseeable forces took place. Not sure Ron's Paul's plan involves anything other than suffering the consequences.
Don't forget, iverstors made a shit load of money in those times. My first guaranteed investment paid 20% compounded APR and I doubled my money in less than 5 years. Good thing about finance is lemons can become lemonade - you just can't squeeze too hard.
Just like QE today, Ron Paul doesn't present all the information. He rambles like we print money against thin air and give it away, never once mentioning the word "loans". Obviously those loans won't be paid back but only when you get that far in the conversation is that met. Up and to that moment, the fed gives it away.
IMO, some folks aren't considering or aren't aware of aspects involved in whatever they're worrying about. In the process, it appears some will reject reality and accept the wildest scenarios.
A meteor might hit the earth but it isn't imminent. Ron Paul has to tweak imminent but all he has is words.
Double digit inflation was a product of two oil embargoes betwixt two recessions. These recessions weren't bad in their own right, they were exacerbated by the oil embargo and energy crisis. Long story short, we had the ability to manage interest rates when unforeseeable forces took place. Not sure Ron's Paul's plan involves anything other than suffering the consequences.
Don't forget, iverstors made a shit load of money in those times. My first guaranteed investment paid 20% compounded APR and I doubled my money in less than 5 years. Good thing about finance is lemons can become lemonade - you just can't squeeze too hard.
Just like QE today, Ron Paul doesn't present all the information. He rambles like we print money against thin air and give it away, never once mentioning the word "loans". Obviously those loans won't be paid back but only when you get that far in the conversation is that met. Up and to that moment, the fed gives it away.
IMO, some folks aren't considering or aren't aware of aspects involved in whatever they're worrying about. In the process, it appears some will reject reality and accept the wildest scenarios.
... i.e. it's gonna blow up. You have to accept that as fact before Ron's no-detail slogans appear palatable. Leave a few details like compound interest maturation and interest bearing loans out of the picture and all the sudden we're dancing around the presses with reckless abandon. Nobody on this earth runs their monetary business like Ron Paul advocates. Remember, nothing less than a gold standard would end fractional reserve. Therefore, fractional reserve will not end. Even if Ron returns to a tax-free coin business, we're not ending fractional reserve. So the whole schpiel that Ron's plan would prevent financial doom is a non-starter. Too little gold.
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I understand it's all over the place. When hyper inflation is threatened, less than is presented as evidence.
logic might suggest the doom scenario painted is over dramatization.
logic might suggest the doom scenario painted is over dramatization.
Uh, watch God's horns, there. You're all over the place.
We said maybe not HYPERINFLATION like Zimbabwe but not regular inflation. We understand there is a middle ground, do you?
Yeah, I see how you could be lost.
Taking gas and food prices into account and not only what the Gov't deems inflation woud be wise.
Golds rising, Golds rising....only means the USD$ is falling, the USD$ is falling.
If you don't know that nor the current trend of the USD vs GOLD &/or SILVER prices....
They have an inverse relationship.
All that above input in valid data, not my rhetoric or spin.
John D Rokefeller-"Competion is sin" They legislate away competion.
Can you say, I want Gov't Health care & a Centralized a banking system for the Elite.
Im 'reaching' back less than 100 years with the Czar.
Ron Paul's central tenant of his campaign is financial reform, something those two desperate needed.
Ron Paul offers financial reform like the Czar did in 1905. Its not going to fix problems, its only going to make them worse.
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Yeah, like you lose the whole investment aspect from your at-best, half picture. If you're used to living paycheck to paycheck with zero investment, I could see where you might gain zero investment information and how to capitalize on it.
Right now you want gold to stuff in your mattress. There's just not enough of it. This ain't theory, there's not enough gold.
And you have to convince yourself the trend won't change. Wall Street investors thought housing prices wouldn't tank
Rising gold prices don't suggest the dollar is falling against other denominations. Earth to itisme - there isn't enough gold to float your rubber duck in the bathtub.
I can say you have a few soundbites.
Some of the biggest men in the United States,are afraid of something.
In his 1913 book The New Freedom, President Woodrow Wilson stated:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men´s views confided
to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the
field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know
that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so
interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak
above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
In his 1913 book The New Freedom, President Woodrow Wilson stated:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men´s views confided
to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the
field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know
that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so
interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak
above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Funny you brought up hyperinflation I only said they funded Vietnam through inflation and you were directed to three sources to back it up.
Maybe it goes back further...
If as you say the "loans" won't be paid back what wrong about saying they "gave it away"
I think it's fair to say none of us here know or fully understand the markets, its mechanisms, and the forces that act on them.
Funny, Ron Paul's piped hyperinflation since the 70s. It's like I say, Paul's message that the sky is falling meets, "Oh yeah?" and now I'm the one piping hyper inflation.
You didn't bring up hyperinflation, your comment started and stopped on the fed printing money. You infer there is no offset mechanism to prevent the very scenario you infer will happen.
Ron Paul's describing a Joe Sidewalk leader of a 3rd world country who doesn't know or doesn't care that printing money has to coincide with backing. And we all know backing doesn't have to be a piece of metal that in our case represents about 1 dollar in every 4500.
QE is loans - w/ interest. You can pretend it won;t be paid back but that don't make it reality.
And I'm not trying to get you to sell your Chevy for a T-Model.
You don't know Ron Paul!
Well, what about practical application?
You don't know your own montary system!
I'm pointing out a few things you're apparently not interested enough to mention.
None of us understand what we're talking about!
... getting warmer.
The national bank's charter didn't supersede the private bank's interests. One of the problems of the national bank was it was otherwise a private entity that served it's interests, then the country's.
Revisionist history takes multiple forms. One of the more popular methods is telling only the part of the story that backs whatever you want to reflect. Ron Paul talks about major media ignoring him. I considered being ignored by most economists as evidence whatever discussion might take place would absent a few monetary mechanisms that Paul doesn't understand.
IMO, Ron Paul needs to moderate his preclusion that doom is inevitable.
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