Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread
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Panama red 1974: ready to flower !
Still have to learn how to grow landraces under hps however, especially during vegetative ;-)
Good vibes !
Rahan
Still have to learn how to grow landraces under hps however, especially during vegetative ;-)
Good vibes !
Rahan
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Jimmy there's all sorts of crazy stuff about the mounds indians. The mounds similar to the "mound of the mask of death" are all beautiful. I have read about the pipes with residual cannabis in them that also belonged to the mounds indians of ohio. I believe this herb was probably grown in the caribean. Archaeologists have always wondered about these decorative feathers from the caribean and south america that would always turn up in north america. Then they found the whole parrots in ohio that were indigenous to the caribean. They were transported by placing the bird in a clay pot specially designed to hold the bird with it's head stocking from the top allowing it to be fed until it was traded at it's destination. Yesterday I visited a friends' house in the southeastern u.s for thanksgiving and identified a persimmon tree that was preciously aged as 800 and some years old. The crazy thing is this is a species that only grows in south america. This sacred tree is by far the largest persimmon tree I've ever seen with substantial differences from the typical wild persimmon's that occur here. The land where she lives and this tree is located is a well documented campsite.
From my smoking experience the Bangladeshi sativas aren't that far off from their S. Indian cousins.
I'm a native of South Asia(Bengal) myself, so I make it my business to smoke as much as possible when I get around there. But recently the quality of bud, as well as diversity of Ganja there has suffered greatly. Before you could get big colas wrapped in newspapers, no seeds, just good bud. But now seems like there's hardly any that grow the plants like they should. The bud there is now almost seeded and you can't get the imported Nepali and Indian bud like you used to.
East Bengal had huge shipments of fresh Black Hash coming through, but in recent years that has also ran dry.
I am in isolation from Cannabis for the time being, as I now reside in the states. But I plan on collecting some beans when I go back and I'm also planning a Mills Pride cab operation when my living arrangements improve.
But it was so inspired to see you all growing and hybridizing varaties that are foreign even to the common smoker. It's nice to see stuff other than Northern Lights, Skunk, Haze shuffled all together, same old BS but new catchy names. It's getting old.
You guys take care and stay face. But most importantly, keep up the good work!
I'm a native of South Asia(Bengal) myself, so I make it my business to smoke as much as possible when I get around there. But recently the quality of bud, as well as diversity of Ganja there has suffered greatly. Before you could get big colas wrapped in newspapers, no seeds, just good bud. But now seems like there's hardly any that grow the plants like they should. The bud there is now almost seeded and you can't get the imported Nepali and Indian bud like you used to.
East Bengal had huge shipments of fresh Black Hash coming through, but in recent years that has also ran dry.
I am in isolation from Cannabis for the time being, as I now reside in the states. But I plan on collecting some beans when I go back and I'm also planning a Mills Pride cab operation when my living arrangements improve.
But it was so inspired to see you all growing and hybridizing varaties that are foreign even to the common smoker. It's nice to see stuff other than Northern Lights, Skunk, Haze shuffled all together, same old BS but new catchy names. It's getting old.
You guys take care and stay face. But most importantly, keep up the good work!
AFRICANAS!!
AFRICANAS!!
The africanas arrived!!
lmn sends me four kinds...and seeds too!!
What a day maker..thx lmn :wink:
I ´ve sampled a couple joints of each so far.I´m impressed
I have:
Congo 1
Congo 2
bangi (congo)
Angola Verde (Green)
Party tonight...I´ve invited my smoking team
AFRICANAS!!
The africanas arrived!!
lmn sends me four kinds...and seeds too!!
What a day maker..thx lmn :wink:
I ´ve sampled a couple joints of each so far.I´m impressed
I have:
Congo 1
Congo 2
bangi (congo)
Angola Verde (Green)
Party tonight...I´ve invited my smoking team
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redrider said:
I'm not a specialist of South American strains. Here is the story: these seeds were stored since 1974. They came to a californian guy few years ago via the breeder Rushman. Then he reproduced them, it was quite hard, only few seeds sprouted, the seeds were too old. But he reproduced them successfully and gifted me with some seeds of the new generation.
And now I'm trying to grow them for the first time indoor, under hps, and it is :
Good vibes to all
Rahan
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growingfury interesting story and plants. I have had some Colombians with leaves like that and they got huge in veg. I've seen pics of PR with really thin curling leaves that didn't look too healthy but yours look fantastic. I hope to see em flower.
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zamalito said:
very nice info zamalito! thanks.
it seems as if the classical theories of how man populated the earth do not make sense in the light of a lot of evidence, however, has anyone seen a national geographic project about documenting genetical inheritance and through it somehow proving how humans did indeed moved out of africa into the rest of the continents... the project has some criticism, like the way the interpret their data... what a mess of information
be well everyone.
peace
Vikings definitely made trips to the new world before columbus. The name they had for this new world was vinland due of the overabundance of wilde grape species that grew along the east coast at the time. In many of the more virgin forests nearer to the coast you can frequently see wild grape species. Muscadine ( fox grape) is extremely common in the south many of you from the south have probably had muscadine or foxgrape wine or cordials.
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A very nice person has give me some seed from "Sri Lanka" which I am pretty sure is a pure Sativa. I was going to grow some of this out at the farm (in the ground), has anyone grown or smoked this or these strains other then my friend? I plan to grow it ad let it open pollinate and inbreed.
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hey raco - give us a smoke report on those goodies !
us from scandinavia learn all about the vikings and their conquests at school they were even down here in spain about 1400 years ago
peace all
!us from scandinavia learn all about the vikings and their conquests at school
they were even down here in spain about 1400 years ago peace all
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mriko, thanks ! i didn't knew that there is proof about the Vikings.
Raco, smoking team ? hahaha, thats a team i would like to join you're the coach ?
bone, in history lessons at school here they don't teach us about that, but i knew that Asterix et les Vikings was true story !
Raco, smoking team ? hahaha, thats a team i would like to join
you're the coach ?bone, in history lessons at school here they don't teach us about that, but i knew that Asterix et les Vikings was true story !
Raco and lmn you guys are both a force to be reckoned with. I'd love to see what comes from you guys working together.
Green Hornet seed co. has a sri lankan sativa. I believe its a 130 day flower (which is all but meaningless when you live as close to the equator as you do). There description sounds pretty nice. I assume it has sweet resinous really feathery strandy flowers and lots of branches coming off of branches coming off of branches etc and colas composed of mini colas like some zamal strains and some south indians. I'm sure you can google it and find a description. It sounds like a good find. Don't forget to send us some pics.
Green Hornet seed co. has a sri lankan sativa. I believe its a 130 day flower (which is all but meaningless when you live as close to the equator as you do). There description sounds pretty nice. I assume it has sweet resinous really feathery strandy flowers and lots of branches coming off of branches coming off of branches etc and colas composed of mini colas like some zamal strains and some south indians. I'm sure you can google it and find a description. It sounds like a good find. Don't forget to send us some pics.
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paz i have seen the national geographic genographic project and apparently it's true, something like 99.9% of non-african descendants alive today can be traced back to one african man ("eurasian adam") who lived in the great rift valley about 31,000-79,000 years ago. africans and african descendants on the other hand show a much larger genetic diversity. africa is where we all come from.
as for cannabis in the americas i'm starting to buy the theory that it was already there prehistorically either through undocumented trade or transport by natural means. cannabis resin around a seed pod is a good adhesive.
as for cannabis in the americas i'm starting to buy the theory that it was already there prehistorically either through undocumented trade or transport by natural means. cannabis resin around a seed pod is a good adhesive.
About Mexico :
About humans and their genetical inheritance, most accepted theory states that the whole of humanity descends from a group of 2000 to 10 000 people who survived a climate cataclysm, some suggest the eruption of Sumatra volcano Tabo some 70 000 years ago or so, which had created a fast coming glacial era which lasted some 1400 years. whipping out most of human race.
Although the currently accepted theory of human origins point towarsd Africa, there's another one (Asian origin) which is quietly and slowly showing up after paleontologic searches in Baluchistan which have uncovered a biologic diversity unmatched anywhere else in the world.
Actually we can imagine that cannabis could have been brought to Americas through Bering detroit, by the populations who migrated from Asia. But, they were hunter/gatherers population and probably didn't had seed with them witht hen intent of sowing.
More, had they brought cannabis with them (supposing they were using it ritually), why would they have shifted to other psychotropic plants, the main one being tobacco.
Chinese as well could have played a role, as there are claims they have reached Americas before Columbus.
Irie !
About humans and their genetical inheritance, most accepted theory states that the whole of humanity descends from a group of 2000 to 10 000 people who survived a climate cataclysm, some suggest the eruption of Sumatra volcano Tabo some 70 000 years ago or so, which had created a fast coming glacial era which lasted some 1400 years. whipping out most of human race.
Although the currently accepted theory of human origins point towarsd Africa, there's another one (Asian origin) which is quietly and slowly showing up after paleontologic searches in Baluchistan which have uncovered a biologic diversity unmatched anywhere else in the world.
Actually we can imagine that cannabis could have been brought to Americas through Bering detroit, by the populations who migrated from Asia. But, they were hunter/gatherers population and probably didn't had seed with them witht hen intent of sowing.
More, had they brought cannabis with them (supposing they were using it ritually), why would they have shifted to other psychotropic plants, the main one being tobacco.
Chinese as well could have played a role, as there are claims they have reached Americas before Columbus.
Irie !
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Hi there everyone,
Firstly allow me to thank you all for contributing to a really interesting thread, I remember the original on OG & can see this one is heading for the same level of value & interest.
redrider - I love your pics man, and my kudos to you for sharing them with us. Without people such as yourself & the other sativa lovers on this thread these strains would, dare I say it, die out as so many of their predecessors will have?.
I'm loving your work with the Afghan hybrids though, I like to experiment with pure or/and landrace strains but have done more on the indica & indica-dom side.
British_Hempire - I too am in the UK so my outdoor grows are restricted in terms of choice of strain, flowering time etc. Mostly all the sativa I do are indoors which, IMHO, just isn't the same?
I suspect like many indoor growers?, a lot of quicker finishing strains occupied my garden purely because of the earlier finish, a 16wk sativa was a no-no
. However, as time & grows went on I found myself including more & more sativa types & sat hybrids in my indoor grows which was no bad thing lemme tell ya!.
It was once I'd got things into a perpetual harvest type schedule so had less time between plants being harvested thus had 'ready to smoke', cured bud to hand that I could afford to wait on the longer finishing strains, until this point my usual was 6-9wk strains
The sativa types I was growing became more sat-dom until the point where I usually always have at least one, maybe two long sativas in there at any one time. You just can't compare the high from a good example of a near as damn 100% sativa to the early strains!.
CharasMan -
Here's my purest sativa, I can't say for sure what she is but I got around 50-60 seeds from some bricked weed way back, probably late 80s/early 90s?, that was around the beginning of the end IMHO?. Back when people had a choice of hash in the UK & grass was cheaper than solid.
I still have seeds of it, not the originals but fresher seeds I produced by inbreeding those I'd rescued, they appear to be all pretty uniform with no hermies to date.
I remember the mention of Thai when it appeared but I doubt it tbh, anyway it ended up being marked as Thai as you gotta call em something
Not the best pic but maybe you guys recognize it in someway perhaps?
maybe you can see the leaf shape in this pic better?,
in 12s
a harvest pic from one plant after 140 days under 1.2Kw (3 x 400w) in F+D. You can't really see it in this pic but the bud took on a purple hue but this may have been down to the fluctuation in temp after lights off at the time?, the grow was in my attic when I stayed at this place so it could get pretty cool up there when they were off.
Regarding high & the taste etc, the smell is strong and unmistakable after it's been smelled once. When dried and through the grinder the bud has a pine-like but peppery aroma. A friend reckoned she could smell a faint mintyness while smoking it also?
The high is strong and cerebral, sometimes hard to finish a spliff alone and I'm a heavy smoker
It's immediate and blasting effect can produce a couchlock effect if too much is smoked so much so that you may have to stay put to try to find power somewhere in the body and in the head. It may stay like this during a long time.
I find the resin production quite strong with abundant trichomes on the small internal leaves and the calyxes
Regards, Esskie
Firstly allow me to thank you all for contributing to a really interesting thread, I remember the original on OG & can see this one is heading for the same level of value & interest.
redrider - I love your pics man, and my kudos to you for sharing them with us. Without people such as yourself & the other sativa lovers on this thread these strains would, dare I say it, die out as so many of their predecessors will have?.
I'm loving your work with the Afghan hybrids though, I like to experiment with pure or/and landrace strains but have done more on the indica & indica-dom side.
British_Hempire - I too am in the UK so my outdoor grows are restricted in terms of choice of strain, flowering time etc. Mostly all the sativa I do are indoors which, IMHO, just isn't the same?
I suspect like many indoor growers?, a lot of quicker finishing strains occupied my garden purely because of the earlier finish, a 16wk sativa was a no-no
. However, as time & grows went on I found myself including more & more sativa types & sat hybrids in my indoor grows which was no bad thing lemme tell ya!.It was once I'd got things into a perpetual harvest type schedule so had less time between plants being harvested thus had 'ready to smoke', cured bud to hand that I could afford to wait on the longer finishing strains, until this point my usual was 6-9wk strains
The sativa types I was growing became more sat-dom until the point where I usually always have at least one, maybe two long sativas in there at any one time. You just can't compare the high from a good example of a near as damn 100% sativa to the early strains!.
CharasMan -
My sentiments exactly my friend!!, okay there are some great examples of these strains out there but there's just no comparision!. I have to laugh to myself when I see Haze seeds advertised with a finishing time of 9-10wks
Here's my purest sativa, I can't say for sure what she is but I got around 50-60 seeds from some bricked weed way back, probably late 80s/early 90s?, that was around the beginning of the end IMHO?. Back when people had a choice of hash in the UK & grass was cheaper than solid.
I still have seeds of it, not the originals but fresher seeds I produced by inbreeding those I'd rescued, they appear to be all pretty uniform with no hermies to date.
I remember the mention of Thai when it appeared but I doubt it tbh, anyway it ended up being marked as Thai as you gotta call em something
Not the best pic but maybe you guys recognize it in someway perhaps?
maybe you can see the leaf shape in this pic better?,
in 12s
a harvest pic from one plant after 140 days under 1.2Kw (3 x 400w) in F+D. You can't really see it in this pic but the bud took on a purple hue but this may have been down to the fluctuation in temp after lights off at the time?, the grow was in my attic when I stayed at this place so it could get pretty cool up there when they were off.
Regarding high & the taste etc, the smell is strong and unmistakable after it's been smelled once. When dried and through the grinder the bud has a pine-like but peppery aroma. A friend reckoned she could smell a faint mintyness while smoking it also?
The high is strong and cerebral, sometimes hard to finish a spliff alone and I'm a heavy smoker
It's immediate and blasting effect can produce a couchlock effect if too much is smoked so much so that you may have to stay put to try to find power somewhere in the body and in the head. It may stay like this during a long time.
I find the resin production quite strong with abundant trichomes on the small internal leaves and the calyxes
Regards, Esskie
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Posted by Derrayld 04-29-2003 @ OG:
"The Nigerian can date it´s characteristics and breeding lines back to the original skunks and hazes you will find.
Originally Nigerian was used to create your more exotic hybrids.Skunky,funky,smelly green shit."
I´d love to know your take on this,folks :wink:
"The Nigerian can date it´s characteristics and breeding lines back to the original skunks and hazes you will find.
Originally Nigerian was used to create your more exotic hybrids.Skunky,funky,smelly green shit."
I´d love to know your take on this,folks :wink:
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