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vermontman

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KALAMATA RED
4 weeks into flower Knocked up 5 branches on three ladies.The smell is sweet pine/mint
and the frost is building.
 

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jaded1

Lovely looking plant Vermontman,surprising amount of frost on her for a greek landrace.
 

vermontman

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Lovely looking plant Vermontman,surprising amount of frost on her for a greek landrace.
Thank you Jade!
This is my first time ever growing his strain and they are from Red who used on be on here and Red sent them to me directly from Greece. In earlier growth there were two distinctly different looking plants out of 3 plants now into flower they are looking much more similar, but the two smaller statured plants are sporting frostier more fragrant tops. I pollinated two more tops today because of he great fragrance and trich production.
 

vermontman

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beautifull hope they will be accessible at aceseeds.org coz am really interested by this mystery and powerfull strains.


Hey man!
I need to test and retest before I do any releases But she is looking like she is showing lots of promise. Today I scrapped two strains for poor performance. But this one is showing real promise.



ZACATECAS TRIBUTE
BG SUR HOLY WEED X OAXACAN GOLD
FALL RELEASE ACE
 

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vermontman

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BIG SUR HOLY WEED
 

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Breadwizard

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What are the finishing times like for that katamata strain at it's natural latitude? I've been looking for landrace or heirlooms that are naturalized to outdoor Mediterranean climates (specifically the warm summer Mediterranean climate around central coast California). Katamata might make a hell of an F1 with the Big Sur Holy, for an international Mediterranean gene pool to dig through.
 

vermontman

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What are the finishing times like for that katamata strain at it's natural latitude? I've been looking for landrace or heirlooms that are naturalized to outdoor Mediterranean climates (specifically the warm summer Mediterranean climate around central coast California). Katamata might make a hell of an F1 with the Big Sur Holy, for an international Mediterranean gene pool to dig through.

Hey Bread!
I actually have no idea, Of flowering time in or out,
This is my first run with this one so total learning curb here. With the structure and early fragrance I was thinking she may be even more suited to an Oaxacan Gold cross.
 

robotwithdreams

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Hey man!
I need to test and retest before I do any releases But she is looking like she is showing lots of promise. Today I scrapped two strains for poor performance. But this one is showing real promise.



ZACATECAS TRIBUTE
BG SUR HOLY WEED X OAXACAN GOLD
FALL RELEASE ACE

Awwww man, i would love to get my hands on this cross. Since ace no longer ships to u.s. , any plans on sales through other vendors?
 

Dr. Purpur

Custom Haze crosses
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Awwww man, i would love to get my hands on this cross. Since ace no longer ships to u.s. , any plans on sales through other vendors?


Since when? Im in California, and recently got some Snow Moon, Panama, Ace mix, Malawi, golden Tiger and Pakistani Kush. They are growing right now....
 

Normannen

Anne enn Normal
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Breadwizard I have a feeling that most mediterranean strains are all from either morocco (north african hemp strains that got used to make hash) or lebanon (for instance, Italy had lebanese strains growing hash until the 1900' to make Vin Mariani and or cough syrup) so any Italian strain is either a lebanese hash cultivar or a mix of that and hemp, accessions on NCBI will confirm my words, it wasnt until the mid '90s that things got interesing genewise in the pool (thank or Dam the Dutch for it, but it is so, nowadays you can find "hybrids" in the rif). And knowing the European attitude I have a strong feeling that very little other than Sinaian indicas are originally Mediterranean, honestly, not much to dig for in there, not as much as a Hindu Kush, Himalayan or a tropical Sativa, unless you want to make stupefying hemp, which is not bad, just not amazing for greedy Amrika ;P
 

vermontman

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Since when? Im in California, and recently got some Snow Moon, Panama, Ace mix, Malawi, golden Tiger and Pakistani Kush. They are growing right now....



Perfect,
I do not know anything about which countries ACE ships to or not, All I know is I think they had a credit card processing glitch?
I am happy to see people in the states can still get their seeds.
Thank you for your input D.P.
 

harvestreaper

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Breadwizard I have a feeling that most mediterranean strains are all from either morocco (north african hemp strains that got used to make hash) or lebanon (for instance, Italy had lebanese strains growing hash until the 1900' to make Vin Mariani and or cough syrup) so any Italian strain is either a lebanese hash cultivar or a mix of that and hemp, accessions on NCBI will confirm my words, it wasnt until the mid '90s that things got interesing genewise in the pool (thank or Dam the Dutch for it, but it is so, nowadays you can find "hybrids" in the rif). And knowing the European attitude I have a strong feeling that very little other than Sinaian indicas are originally Mediterranean, honestly, not much to dig for in there, not as much as a Hindu Kush, Himalayan or a tropical Sativa, unless you want to make stupefying hemp, which is not bad, just not amazing for greedy Amrika ;P
i think the kalamta would be the exeption as far as european weed goes whiie it has the resin frost of hash strains <>and i was told it desends from such its mostly sativa and of very high quality and well worth going thru imo ,, those boys down it kalamata have kept it close to there chest and face a lot of heat if caught growing i belive most of the weed sold i greece is albanian
 

Normannen

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i think the kalamta would be the exeption as far as european weed goes whiie it has the resin frost of hash strains <>and i was told it desends from such its mostly sativa and of very high quality and well worth going thru imo ,, those boys down it kalamata have kept it close to there chest and face a lot of heat if caught growing i belive most of the weed sold i greece is albanian

I wouldn't know about the Kalamata because I haven't found accessions for it, yet. But also Ketama weed is a sativa that produces resin for hash.

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But judging by it I'd say European genetics intermingle a lot (the majority of the overlapping dots are usually hemp cultivars that got exported to other countries, which is why Russia has the widest oval, funnily enough only for non drug cultivars, the Russians are so uninterested in getting high :p)

the two clusters indicate the genetic distance between drug and non drug cultivars, but it's just a trend as there are many cultivars present in one another's cluster.
PS: By hemp i don't intend to demean the worth of the end product, simply the phenotype (hollow stem, stretching, low THC high CBD or even CBG, resistant to humidity,low bud density, thinner leaves on average, not necessarily dioecious, not necessarily bred for drug purposes) in contrast to "Sativa" (thin leaved drug cultivar) or "Indica" (broad leaved drug cultivar), mind you, hemp could still get you high, see how pissed off the Chinese are about tourists smoking hemp, not so much the Dali, read in the following article:https://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha6211.html
 

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Dr. Purpur

Custom Haze crosses
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Im 14% Albanian. My ancestor worked for King Louie of Italy as a mercenary Lieutenant commander. The king offered him land, so he wouldn't go home. He paid him too
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
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i think the kalamta would be the exeption as far as european weed goes whiie it has the resin frost of hash strains <>and i was told it desends from such its mostly sativa and of very high quality and well worth going thru imo ,, those boys down it kalamata have kept it close to there chest and face a lot of heat if caught growing i belive most of the weed sold i greece is albanian

I had a variety from Crete which was originally a cross from Colombian & Lebanese genetics.Till WWI Greece was part of the Ottoman empire and hookah smoking was part of the culture and that was not only tobacco.
Nowadays Albania is supplying the region overthere.Never seen Albanian weed in the coffeeshop.
 

Normannen

Anne enn Normal
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I had a variety from Crete which was originally a cross from Colombian & Lebanese genetics.Till WWI Greece was part of the Ottoman empire and hookah smoking was part of the culture and that was not only tobacco.
Nowadays Albania is supplying the region overthere.Never seen Albanian weed in the coffeeshop.
Are you speaking of Dutch coffeeshop? the cheap weed is all Albanian.

I know the mirror is not really an amazing source and I had to hold my stomach as i read this purulent propaganda shit wad, but it is accurate in reporting The System. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-seizes-4bn-drug-ring-7191800

PS the Italian druglords CEO Matteo Salvini recently moved to make small hemp shops illegal in Italy, someone was losing money i guess...?


 
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