if you cut the clones today and rooted them, until your harvest
the clones will be ready for flower..
i have mine in 2x15w cool white for rooting and small growth
and the roots are great when i put them in my room.
i saw you photo later
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RDWC ( kind of ) 400W Shiva Skunk grow log (newb+pics)
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if you cut the clones today and rooted them, until your harvest
the clones will be ready for flower..
i have mine in 2x15w cool white for rooting and small growth
and the roots are great when i put them in my room.
i saw you photo later
erwingruber
Member
@ tjo
I cut 17 clones from my Shiva mother one week before
and i have them in my propagator.My problem with the clones
and the straight 12/12 is that in rockwools they don't develop
root mass , when i put them in my tub i think that they will need
2 weeks so they can develop some root mass , how you overcome this problem ?
I cut 17 clones from my Shiva mother one week before
and i have them in my propagator.My problem with the clones
and the straight 12/12 is that in rockwools they don't develop
root mass , when i put them in my tub i think that they will need
2 weeks so they can develop some root mass , how you overcome this problem ?
build a dwc cloner, root them with clay hydroton-no rockwool-
and veg them until your plants are finished.
i do this with 2 fluoro cool white 15w each..
if you want more growth raise the watts but is not nececcery in your case..
erwingruber
Member
@tjo
Do you think that i must remove them from the rockwools now and put them in a DIY dwc Cloner now or i will hurt them to death ?
Do you think that i must remove them from the rockwools now and put them in a DIY dwc Cloner now or i will hurt them to death ?
erwingruber
Member
Well here is my update.
First of all i have many pictures for you .
Second strange think is that without ANY at all reason my
ph updrifts fall from 0,5 point in 24 hours to 0,2 point per
24 hours.I assume that finaly my ph updrifts was revealant
with the nutes absorption of the plants and cause something change
in the absorption of nutes my ph updrifts change also.
My roots was sitting is a solution of 1,8 to 2,0 ec and my weaker girls
give me some slight nute burns on the leaf tips , my loved one seems
100% and just for her today i raise my ec and i will let it flow
between 2,0 and 2,2.Of course i will monitor closely waiting
feedback from the girls.
I am looking for a way to fit a small bubble cloner in my tiny veg
area but it is hard.My 17 clones look green and healty after 11 days
but no sign of roots.
Finaly the gift seed from my balcony Sensimilia Big Bud growing under
my desks small floro (maybe 20 watt) in unfertilized soil with only some
tap water with 8,5ph ...yes 8,5ph is 100% healthy and happy.The truth is
that i have no plans for it , i don't know what i will do it.
Enough talking some pictures from the young Big Bud followed by
bud and jungle photos with no commnets.
First of all i have many pictures for you .
Second strange think is that without ANY at all reason my
ph updrifts fall from 0,5 point in 24 hours to 0,2 point per
24 hours.I assume that finaly my ph updrifts was revealant
with the nutes absorption of the plants and cause something change
in the absorption of nutes my ph updrifts change also.
My roots was sitting is a solution of 1,8 to 2,0 ec and my weaker girls
give me some slight nute burns on the leaf tips , my loved one seems
100% and just for her today i raise my ec and i will let it flow
between 2,0 and 2,2.Of course i will monitor closely waiting
feedback from the girls.
I am looking for a way to fit a small bubble cloner in my tiny veg
area but it is hard.My 17 clones look green and healty after 11 days
but no sign of roots.
Finaly the gift seed from my balcony Sensimilia Big Bud growing under
my desks small floro (maybe 20 watt) in unfertilized soil with only some
tap water with 8,5ph ...yes 8,5ph is 100% healthy and happy.The truth is
that i have no plans for it , i don't know what i will do it.
Enough talking some pictures from the young Big Bud followed by
bud and jungle photos with no commnets.
erwingruber
Member
@Mr.Jones
Thanks for being so kind with me Mr.Jones , yes in general terms looks nice ,
but i hate that i lost control of my plants , i would like to make a nice scrog
someday.As for the harvest i cannot predict something but it is not going to be huge
maybe slightly over 0,5 gpw if i catch 0,5 gpw.
Well i have no picture updates cause everything look the same for the momment ,
my ph updrifts stop and i would like to know why they stop now ???? any ideas.
There is no nuteburn leaftips in my Big yielder pheno so today i will push my solution
to the limit i am feeding with almost 2,3 EC now with 1590 (.7) ppm and i am waiting feedback from the Big Yielder pheno
Thanks for being so kind with me Mr.Jones , yes in general terms looks nice ,
but i hate that i lost control of my plants , i would like to make a nice scrog
someday.As for the harvest i cannot predict something but it is not going to be huge
maybe slightly over 0,5 gpw if i catch 0,5 gpw.
Well i have no picture updates cause everything look the same for the momment ,
my ph updrifts stop and i would like to know why they stop now ???? any ideas.
There is no nuteburn leaftips in my Big yielder pheno so today i will push my solution
to the limit i am feeding with almost 2,3 EC now with 1590 (.7) ppm and i am waiting feedback from the Big Yielder pheno
Dude, this looks great! im having shiva skunk allso growing atm and going to start flowering littlebit after newyear... i hope mine are going to look great as yours though, im still trying in soil, but i have 400w high pressure sodium and 250w esl (blue) growlights. So its gonna be interesting to compare our harvest how high has your temperatures been?
ps. we want more pics!
pss. good luck in your growing!
though, im still trying in soil, but i have 400w high pressure sodium and 250w esl (blue) growlights. So its gonna be interesting to compare our harvest how high has your temperatures been?ps. we want more pics!
pss. good luck in your growing!
erwingruber
Member
Hello everyone sorry for delayed update but i was
out of town.
The ladies is healthy in 56th day of flowering
and the chop time is coming fast maybe less than 10 days.
My partner also moves in the flowering closet the Big Bud
seedling in a small soil pot just for fun.
Tommorow i will make a visit to my ladies and i will
have some photos for you
@steadler
Hello my friend welcome to icmag i am honored
that you make here your first post.Thanks for
your kind words about my ladies.My temps on canopy is
26-28 Celsius.
@zuma
Pics coming my friend i am going to check your ladies
right now.
out of town.
The ladies is healthy in 56th day of flowering
and the chop time is coming fast maybe less than 10 days.
My partner also moves in the flowering closet the Big Bud
seedling in a small soil pot just for fun.
Tommorow i will make a visit to my ladies and i will
have some photos for you
@steadler
Hello my friend welcome to icmag i am honored
that you make here your first post.Thanks for
your kind words about my ladies.My temps on canopy is
26-28 Celsius.
@zuma
Pics coming my friend i am going to check your ladies
right now.
erwingruber
Member
Hello everyone ,
As i promise i have a couple of pics for you and
some updates.
Half tap / half R/O water @ 110(.7) ppm
Lucas formula ratio
EC 2,3
ph 5,5 ( stable for over 5 days )
canopy temps lights on 27 Celsius
water temps lights on 19-20 Celsius
In this grow i learn by experience that most
seed banks lies about finishing time of their strains.
The 4 shivas in their 57th day of flowering is getting fatter
and fatter with enough orange hairs in some buds and very
few in some others , while everywhere produced new white hairs.
I can spot with my microscope some cloudy trichs but
not even one amber.
I suspect that one plant will carry almost the 75%
of the weight of the total buds in the closet with big
donkey buds like the ones you can see in the pics follow.
The Big Bud sheedling in a small soil pot feeded with
water from the res (2,3 EC & 5,5 Ph) looks 100% healthy
and in 10 days time in 12/12 doubled its size.
Few days ago i pic some clones from the heavy yielder pheno
and i put them in soil party cups , well all of them
root and i am amazed from the sort time that everything roots
in soil vs rockwool.Conclusion i will have a mother
from the good pheno of those shivas.
Thats it for now i am waiting for the first amber trichs to apear
and i will make a res changle with pure R/O water for a 10 - 15
days flush until harvest and i would like your opinion on that .
PIcs
As i promise i have a couple of pics for you and
some updates.
Half tap / half R/O water @ 110(.7) ppm
Lucas formula ratio
EC 2,3
ph 5,5 ( stable for over 5 days )
canopy temps lights on 27 Celsius
water temps lights on 19-20 Celsius
In this grow i learn by experience that most
seed banks lies about finishing time of their strains.
The 4 shivas in their 57th day of flowering is getting fatter
and fatter with enough orange hairs in some buds and very
few in some others , while everywhere produced new white hairs.
I can spot with my microscope some cloudy trichs but
not even one amber.
I suspect that one plant will carry almost the 75%
of the weight of the total buds in the closet with big
donkey buds like the ones you can see in the pics follow.
The Big Bud sheedling in a small soil pot feeded with
water from the res (2,3 EC & 5,5 Ph) looks 100% healthy
and in 10 days time in 12/12 doubled its size.
Few days ago i pic some clones from the heavy yielder pheno
and i put them in soil party cups , well all of them
root and i am amazed from the sort time that everything roots
in soil vs rockwool.Conclusion i will have a mother
from the good pheno of those shivas.
Thats it for now i am waiting for the first amber trichs to apear
and i will make a res changle with pure R/O water for a 10 - 15
days flush until harvest and i would like your opinion on that .
PIcs
erwingruber
Member
Happy new year !!
I have some more updared pics for you.
Last days i start lowering my EC values cause
those girls continue to grow new white hairs
with so high EC values.
Take as a note that i push my ppm values
up to 1650(.7) near 2,4 EC until i notice
some nuteburns to the one plant with the
heavy yielding pheno.
I am now start to steping back making only
water addbacks and soon i will begin flushing.
And i am saying soon cause i haven't spot
any amber trichs yet even if those Shiva's
growing in 12/12 for over 60 days now.
As soon as i spot the first amber's i will
flush for 7-10 days with pure R/O.
You can spot a picture from the Big Bud in
the small soil pot from seed to 12/12 too
just for not killing it.
Pics now.
The lower buds inside the canopy hard to take a photo
The most popular bud from this grow , the bigger too
Closeups
From seed to 12/12 Big Bud
Group photo
Any harvesting time suggestions will be helpfull.
I have some more updared pics for you.
Last days i start lowering my EC values cause
those girls continue to grow new white hairs
with so high EC values.
Take as a note that i push my ppm values
up to 1650(.7) near 2,4 EC until i notice
some nuteburns to the one plant with the
heavy yielding pheno.
I am now start to steping back making only
water addbacks and soon i will begin flushing.
And i am saying soon cause i haven't spot
any amber trichs yet even if those Shiva's
growing in 12/12 for over 60 days now.
As soon as i spot the first amber's i will
flush for 7-10 days with pure R/O.
You can spot a picture from the Big Bud in
the small soil pot from seed to 12/12 too
just for not killing it.
Pics now.
The lower buds inside the canopy hard to take a photo
The most popular bud from this grow , the bigger too
Closeups
From seed to 12/12 Big Bud
Group photo
Any harvesting time suggestions will be helpfull.
erwingruber
Member
picture update
picture update
Picture update , ppm @ 1100 and falling need help for timing to
start flushing !!!!!
picture update
Picture update , ppm @ 1100 and falling need help for timing to
start flushing !!!!!
erwingruber
Member
Happy new year Mr.Jones ,
it is real that i miss your coaching.
I will update you to the current status cause
i speak to tjo by pm.
First of all i can tell you that my good shiva
pheno hadle EC @ 2,3 and give me nuteburns @ 2,4.
While i was checking the ladies with the microscope
i spot a lot of clear trichs and enough cloudy.
If i would like to see 2-3 or 5 mostly amber trichs
i must keep searching among buds with my microscope
for over 2 mins real time.
On the other hand i can spot more trichs that they loose
their head , forced by that yesterday i make a water change
with pure R/O and i was thinking to let them flush
for a week.
Searching around and asking opinions drive
me to mix some nutes today @ 1090(.7) ppm i think 1,6-1,7 EC
I was planing to leave those shiva's run with nutes 5 more days
for a sum of 70 days and after that give them one more week
with pure unphed R/O for a total of 11 WEEKS for a strain advertised
with finishing time @ 45-55 days !!!
What do you think ?
Thanks for helping me out i hope that you post updates
from you ladies !
it is real that i miss your coaching.
I will update you to the current status cause
i speak to tjo by pm.
First of all i can tell you that my good shiva
pheno hadle EC @ 2,3 and give me nuteburns @ 2,4.
While i was checking the ladies with the microscope
i spot a lot of clear trichs and enough cloudy.
If i would like to see 2-3 or 5 mostly amber trichs
i must keep searching among buds with my microscope
for over 2 mins real time.
On the other hand i can spot more trichs that they loose
their head , forced by that yesterday i make a water change
with pure R/O and i was thinking to let them flush
for a week.
Searching around and asking opinions drive
me to mix some nutes today @ 1090(.7) ppm i think 1,6-1,7 EC
I was planing to leave those shiva's run with nutes 5 more days
for a sum of 70 days and after that give them one more week
with pure unphed R/O for a total of 11 WEEKS for a strain advertised
with finishing time @ 45-55 days !!!
What do you think ?
Thanks for helping me out i hope that you post updates
from you ladies !
Mr.Jones
Member
sounds good to me
- keep this information around for your nextr run! it will help you to run clones with great sucess! those flowering times are a total ripoff - never count on them!
ill update soon ...
erwingruber
Member
@ hazemaker
Sorry i now notice
I am going with the rule 1 watt of airpump per gallon of solution.
Well i must admit that i am wrong and Sensi did not lie that much and i will
explain why.
At 07 january i start make a water change and decide to let those Shiva's
run 10 full weeks drinking nutes.The next day i see with my microscope
that many trichs start to explode and losing their head's.
After talking and with tjo at 09 January i start flushing.
Tommorow with 6 days flushing i am choping down everything because
the trichs start to degrade REALY fast.
Conlusion.
Sensi recomneds 45-55 days.
45 days is out of question
55 days (8 weeks) is a little bit earlie but doable
63 days (9 weeks) you are Golden
70 days (10 weeks) you start messing bad with the trichs.
And the question is ... and i need answers please
Why the rule 50% amber - 50% cloudy never works for me after 6 harvests ?
Why Jorge Cervantes in Marijuana Horticulture book recconds harvesting
at 50% clear 50% cloudy (creamy translucent the exact words).
Before i start flushing those shiva's give me
5%(less for real) amber
60% cloudy
35% clear.
Do you think that looking trichs with those 400HPS 20 cm above
them do not let me see the amber trichs ??
or the rule 50% amber 50% cloudy is a myth ????
Sorry i now notice
I am going with the rule 1 watt of airpump per gallon of solution.
Well i must admit that i am wrong and Sensi did not lie that much and i will
explain why.
At 07 january i start make a water change and decide to let those Shiva's
run 10 full weeks drinking nutes.The next day i see with my microscope
that many trichs start to explode and losing their head's.
After talking and with tjo at 09 January i start flushing.
Tommorow with 6 days flushing i am choping down everything because
the trichs start to degrade REALY fast.
Conlusion.
Sensi recomneds 45-55 days.
45 days is out of question
55 days (8 weeks) is a little bit earlie but doable
63 days (9 weeks) you are Golden
70 days (10 weeks) you start messing bad with the trichs.
And the question is ... and i need answers please
Why the rule 50% amber - 50% cloudy never works for me after 6 harvests ?
Why Jorge Cervantes in Marijuana Horticulture book recconds harvesting
at 50% clear 50% cloudy (creamy translucent the exact words).
Before i start flushing those shiva's give me
5%(less for real) amber
60% cloudy
35% clear.
Do you think that looking trichs with those 400HPS 20 cm above
them do not let me see the amber trichs ??
or the rule 50% amber 50% cloudy is a myth ????
