JohnnyChicago
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Same age, same conditions, from seed, OH & OTH
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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
- Thread starter bigherb
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Just wanted to post a few fresh shots of the "Bonsai" Ohaze I'm running from Todd...I have pollinated a couple of select branches with THH pollen from 2014 and 2017. The cuts I took a while ago are vegging along nicely now.
This one is the loudest smelling out of all the Ohaze I'm growing right now. We shall see if you were right about this one, hempy...she might be a special one or she might be hay (although I doubt that), or something in between. The true test will be in the smoke, of course.
HB.
This one is the loudest smelling out of all the Ohaze I'm growing right now. We shall see if you were right about this one, hempy...she might be a special one or she might be hay (although I doubt that), or something in between. The true test will be in the smoke, of course.
HB.
Tom Hill Haze x Original Haze boy....
HAZENACIOUS
Member
Hi Donald,
I read something that Sam was saying somebody quoting recently, that he mixed some ohaze that was pure columbian with a Thai and it wasn't as good as the pure ohaze, but I got the impression that he was referring to a later cross with thai not made by haze brothers, and as for the later crosses of unknown superior males made by the haze brothers in later generations, I don't think he was referring to those, not really sure...
Hey MK does it still give you uncontrollable laughter? I miss that.
Red October
Active member
lol was the fly meant to be there
would you mind posting some pics of the leaves? Would like to see if there is there are some double serrations from the recombination.
HAZENACIOUS
Member
Lol, still got the white elephant on ignore I see.
You are like "Never mind Nevil and his 20 million seeds, some dude from Santa Cruz named G came to New York around the same time, and gave somebody 5 ohaze seeds and thats where the real NYC haze came from its a real lumbo I was right along."
No offense dude, but how stupid do you think we all are?
I am glad you admitted you aren't an expert, that's a start.
I've noticed though, If there is only one thing on planet Earth haze experts can generally agree on, its that Bigherb is totally full of sh*t.
PEACE
lol was the fly meant to be there
I recently cut that male, I have to see if there are any intact leaves in the compost bin, but I have a couple of females, sisters of the male ....
Here some pics of thh x original haze female...
I am not sure what DNA testing could tell us Syd and fail to understand how folk could possibly surmise accurate origins from it. It is fairly popular these days in other genetic discipline as well but touted mostly by folk who have no grasp of the results. The most i could tell was this or that small handful of unmapped chromasome was heterozygous or homozygous. Would love to see something to the contrary. What is the base pure lumbo used to compare with.
G
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Yeah of course there are many flaws with the phylos system.But a few plus too.It shows how inbred a line is. It could also show direct relation(parent/offspring).It will show "impurities". It would show if it is related to Oldtimer's line .The other Dutch hazes are not.Sam's probably would be but where is it? I'm not talking definite accurate origins but at least some hints we'd get , no doubt ,for me at least.
I am certain Chimera could shed more light as he has some experience with the tech. Whether or not targeted alleles are of noted value or not remains to be seen as far as i can tell. For all I know it is some random shot in the dark of easily tested sites. Will jamaican or colombian or thais test out so very different than indian i am not so sure. That is providing we can even aquire legit baseline samples removed from the clusterfuck that is the modern day pool.
Until these points are addressed i will remain highly suspicious of any such claims as to origin.
Until these points are addressed i will remain highly suspicious of any such claims as to origin.
G
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Yes I'm just positive for the comparative use of this tool.Indeed if the initial specimens aren t legit to begin with,no use claiming the origin,indeed.Just a hint though when more specimens accumulate.
And bigherb, i don't really have problems with folk though your style makes my eye twitch a bit. But you believe you me Sam has been describing haze for years -nay- decades, from overgrow to cannabis world to here as a 4 way hybrid. Further, he has confirmed himself previously as positronics source and the variety discription included things only he himself would have known eg generations inbred and etc - info dating far beyond positronics existence. You just bound and determined to smash square pegs into round holes. It only gets under my skin because you lack the juice to do so. I do not tolerate lack of brain braun and coordination all in the same package.
HAZENACIOUS
Member
This one ticks off a lot of boxes bogy best of luck
My style is straight up
I’ll die for what I believe in , hard headed but always Honest
Honestly Sams word is his , my belief comes from the story I was told and the cat who told it was 100% with me as far as I can verify . This from someone who was there , not Sams .
As you have been Honest you were not there
Put up or shut up , where is Sams post of Haze being a four way hybrid over the decades . I have many post none say that specifically . Ask Hempy for help , he loves to repeat himself and he dislikes myself and Sams
What I’ve realized in life things are sometimes much simpler than they seem , Sams has added some pepper with the Truth . just not giving the specifics until recently
That 4way was taken out of context , RCC describes the crosses year and year after BS , in a post at either CW or OH . Sams only spoke of the genetics he provided , to G n RL . Which G didn’t use because he liked Haze better and he was the Originator , Rl made the crosses and only a few seeds at that
Not sure what BS about positronics you speak , the only post I know confirm what I say . If you got Something else then put them up
I don’t tolerate disrespect, or liars
Soo I’m sure we couldn’t sit together. Plus your old and fragile and I’m 6’5 pushing 300
Truth is your like a broad , you made something out of nothing . Sensitive for no reason . You didn’t like my consistent questions of Haze and incense / Frankincense. Then once I mentioned your line had incense in it (because of several posters including Hazy lady who I was very close with )
Boom you really got a hard on . I remember your post you were worried everyone would think your line was frankincense or piff that cats were chasing . But I never said no such thing about frankincense
Remember, This annoying NYC Haze lover spread the Truth of the Origins of Haze , my persistence and style paid off . That means something to me
