Penn State Scandal and the end of Joe Paterno

[Classy@Home]

I was watching the interviews after Penn State beat Ohio State today. Jay Paterno (Joe Pa's son) was giving a post game interview.

He has been the quarterback's coach for 12 years. On Penn State staff for 17.

He did not fail to mention his father's sudden case of "treatable" cancer.

If he really does have lung cancer, I believe it's called karma. If it's BS, having been a cancer survivor, I'm even more disgusted. If that's even possible.

Whatever the truth is. This institution certainly does have a cancer and it looks terminal.

Blatant case of misdirection, and a sympathy ploy...

Reminds me of Sarah Palin - lugging her son w/ Downs around like he was a bag of groceries - "Oh, look at me, I have a special kid, I must be a special mom, feel sorry for / vote for me". C#nt...

The cancer is money - big money, or the fear of losing big money, is a powerful influence to not rock the boat. 53 million a year in revenue. Imagine being the guy that blows the whistle on the guy blowing the kids - lotsa folks gonna resent the end of the gravy train.

 

[187020]

11/18/11

Joe Paterno Diagnosed With Lung Cancer

Ok when he dies should we start a new thread or let this be his tribute homie ?!?

 

[Classy@Home]

Ok when he dies should we start a new thread or let this be his tribute homie ?!?

His epitaph should be "I let my assistant ass-rape little boys - and I coached some football"...

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Penn State Scandal: Mother Of Alleged Jerry Sandusky Victim Claims Mistreatment By Son's School

Ryan D. Buell
First Posted: 11/22/11 09:42 PM ET Updated: 11/22/11 10:26 PM ET

Court records refer to him simply, as Victim One. Outside of a four-and-a-half page section about him in the grand jury indictment of ex-Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, little else has been discussed about him publicly.

Last week, his mother (who I will refer to as "Mother One") removed him from Central Mountain High School in Mill Hall, Pa., where he was a senior and an all-star athlete. In an interview conducted last week, she explained why she pulled him from the school.

"They were not helpful," Mother One said of the school's administrators. "They wanted me to go home and forget about it."

Mother One also alleges that since the Sandusky scandal erupted, fellow students and the high school's football coach (who also serves as assistant principal) have all targeted her son with verbal attacks and threats of violence.

She also claims that the school's principal tried to convince her and her son not to report their allegations against Sandusky to the police, and that as recently as this month, refused to treat threats of violence against her son by other students as credible.

Central Mountain High's principal, Karen Probst, and its football coach, Steve Turchetta, did not return phone calls seeking comment about Mother One's complaints.

Mother One -- who first spoke to the Patriot News earlier this month -- and Victim One, who is now 18, requested anonymity to preserve their privacy and their safety.

THE SECOND MILE

Jerry Sandusky, a prominent member of the Penn State community and the former defensive coordinator for the university's football team, is accused of molesting at least eight boys over a 15-year period. According to the grand jury indictment (PDF link), sometime in 2005 or 2006, Victim One, aged 11 or 12, met Sandusky through his charity for disadvantaged kids, The Second Mile. (Mother One says she isn't entirely certain when her son met Sandusky.)

As a single parent, Mother One said she wanted to take advantage of the opportunity Second Mile offered. Her son enjoyed Second Mile's summer camps, which is where she recalls meeting Sandusky for the first time.

They were in a warehouse where the charity's annual Parent Award Ceremonies were held.

"My son grabbed me by the hand and said, 'Come on, I want you to meet someone,'" she recalled. He then "practically dragged" her across the big space to introduce her to Sandusky. "I was like, 'Okay, nice to meet you.' I didn't know who he was. I had no clue who he was. I had never even heard of Jerry Sandusky prior to this."

Mother One remembers regularly seeing Sandusky frequenting the school halls throughout her son's middle school years. She assumed he was volunteering in some capacity and didn't think further of it.

Toward the end of eighth grade, things changed at home. Victim One began to lash out in unusual ways, his mother recalled, "getting mouthy and nasty at home."

"I called the school psychologist and they brushed it off. They said it was just puberty. That he was a good kid and that it would all work out."

Since she had no reason to suspect anything else was amiss, she said she went along with the counselor's advice.

The following year was Victim One's first at Central Mountain High. Once again, Sandusky apparently had a presence at the school.

Mother One says she still didn't find his presence odd -- at least not at first. "I thought he was involved in all the schools. I thought that he just made the rounds."

As stated in the grand jury report, her suspicions escalated one evening after her son asked how to look up "sex weirdos."

"I had a friend at the house with me watching TV when he just came out of the blue with that. My friend and I just kind of looked at each other. I thought he was being a smart aleck. I said to myself, 'Okay, I'll play this game.' I asked him who he was looking up and he said, 'Jerry.'"

"I started laughing and said, 'You're not going to find Jerry on there. And do you have something to tell me?'"

Visibly upset, her son walked out, leaving Mother One and her friend to wonder exactly what the truth was.

"We just stared at each other and I remember saying to myself: What if...what if...what if...?"

She circled back to her son and asked him if he really did have anything he needed to tell her.

"He didn't come out and say anything directly about Jerry at first. He started telling me that he was upset about his school and his grades and that he felt everyone hated him. At first I thought he was just saying what any child says when they're stressed out or in trouble. I reassured him that no one in the school hated him. That's when he told me that they did, because he was always getting pulled out of class."

Victim One then explained to his mother that he was being taken out of school several times a week, sometimes daily. When she pressed him, he explained that Sandusky wanted him to leave the school with him.

She said she immediately knew something was wrong.

"I didn't know about that," she said, shaking her head slowly at the recollection. "I was never aware that he [Sandusky] did that."
According to both Victim One and his mother, it was the assistant principal and varsity football coach Steve Turchetta who authorized and granted Sandusky this access, despite a lack of parental permission or notification.

Turchetta defended his actions, according to the grand jury indictment, saying that it wasn't unusual to "call a Second Mile student out of activity period at the end of the day, at Sandusky's request, to see him."

With her son being taken off school property on a frequent basis without her permission, and his expressed concern about Sandusky being a "sex weirdo," Mother One said she contacted the school.

"I didn't know how to start the conversation with the high school counselor because I didn't know how to come out and say, 'I think Jerry Sandusky is doing something to my kid,'" she explained. "I finally said to the counselor, 'You're a mother. I'm a mother. I have a gut feeling that something isn't right.'"

Mother One explained that her son was clearly troubled by Sandusky and wanted the school to talk with him. She also informed the high school principal, Karen Probst, that she didn't appreciate the school allowing Sandusky to take her son anywhere, and demanded that the school help to stop the visits. But according to Mother One, the school acted as if there was nothing to be concerned about.

"The principal just waved it off, saying, 'You know, it's Jerry. He's around the school a lot and talks a lot with Second Mile kids. He has a heart of gold.' I was furious. They were defending this guy."
Mother One said she stopped arguing when she realized the principal wasn't willing to admit to any wrongdoing. She then asked that a counselor speak to her son, to see if he'd open up. The school agreed.

A few hours later, her phone rang. It was Probst, who she said asked her to drive to the school immediately. Mother One already knew where this was going. Reaching the counselor's office, she saw her son sitting in a chair and crying uncontrollably. He was, she recalled, in "an absolute meltdown." Then, she said, the principal entered the room.

"The principal said that my son thought something inappropriate might have happened with Jerry. And of course, I instantly lost it."

As her son spoke between sobs, Mother One's worst fears were confirmed. Victim One said he was terrified, and that he thought things would only get worse.

Mother One had heard all she needed to. "Then we're going to call the police," she recalled saying. She looked at the counselor and principal, expecting them to nod, or to agree. Instead, she claims, they told her to think about it, and asked her how it would affect her family.

"I repeated the line three times. I said let's call the police. Right now. Let's do it. And they continued to stare at me."

As his mother described it, her son rocked in his chair and shook his head, looking as if he was about to have a nervous breakdown. Still sobbing, he shouted: "See! They don't believe me!"

Mother One said the counselor and the principal, both women and both employees of the public school system, didn't respond. They didn't offer condolences of any sort, she said.

"I remember saying, 'I'm not playing. This isn't funny. I mean seriously, look how upset he is! Something happened.'"

Mother One said the principal stood her ground.

"Jerry has a heart of gold, he's been around all these kids and you really should just go home and think about what this is going to do to your son and your family if you do that," Mother One recalled the principal saying.

"At that point, I had had enough. I told him that we were leaving. He grabbed his backpack and we just left the women sitting there."

As she drove home, trying to maintain her composure in front of her son, she said she called a close friend who worked with the state's Children's Youth Services program. The friend agreed to meet them at their home, and then took them to the Services center.

That's where she met Dr. Mike Gillum, a licensed psychologist with a private practice in Williamsport, Pa., who has also worked with the state on child abuse cases. He's worked closely with Victim One and Mother One ever since that first meeting.

According to Mother One, Gillum called the principal at the high school to inform her that Sandusky was now the subject of an abuse investigation and therefore could not be allowed near the school or Victim One.

As the full story emerged, Victim One revealed that for nearly two years he was subjected to various sexual acts by Sandusky. Some had even occurred at the middle school and high school, where Sandusky had been given complete access to him by school officials.

On Nov. 7, Pennsylvania State Attorney General Linda Kelly praised Central Mountain High School for "doing the right thing" in the Sandusky matter. The indictment states that the school immediately called the police when it was informed of the abuse. Mother One said that that description of the school is false and that she removed her son from Central Mountain in part because of the school's reluctance to take action.

"IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF YOUR SON"

Neither Turchetta nor Probst (nor any school official, for that matter) have explained why Sandusky was given the authority to pull Victim One out of class and take him off school grounds without permission from his mother. Calls placed to the offices of Central Mountain High School have gone unanswered.

And although Sandusky has been barred from the school, Mother One said other problems remained, which also convinced her to pull her son from the school. She said that once her son disclosed the abuse, fellow students and even school administrators remained skeptical -- and often incredulous -- about his claims.

One evening, while Mother One was shopping, she said the grandmother of one of the varsity football players approached her in a rage and, according to Mother One, proceeded to publicly berate her.

"She said, 'Thanks a lot! What are you doing getting involved for your son? Your son doesn't even play football anymore.' I remember saying, 'What are you talking about?'"

According to Mother One, the woman responded, "Oh, your son had to go and accuse Jerry [Sandusky] of abusing him and now he's not allowed to help the football team and he's not allowed around the school."

Aside from Child Youth Services, the police, Gillum, a few school administrators and immediate family members, she said she'd told no one else what had happened to Victim One.

Shocked, she asked the grandmother how she found out. Mother One recalls the woman responding that Turchetta brought it up at his weekly football parent meeting, presumably with family members of the football team.

According to Mother One, the woman added, "Coach Turchetta said these charges are never going to stick and he'll walk away." "She never asked me if the charges were true. She just finished up with, 'Thanks a lot. Now our football team is going to lose and it's all because of your son.'"

Mother One said that Turchetta found ways to target her son as punishment for getting Sandusky removed from school grounds. Although Turchetta didn't coach her son directly, his role as assistant principal and his involvement in the sports department gave him influence over other sports programs within the school. Mother One claims her son developed a close bond with a 28-year-old volunteer coach, which Turchetta abruptly ended. One day, she recalled, her son told her that Turchetta was in his face, yelling at him: "With what you've done already, no 28-year-old man needs to be around you."

"I think he was accusing my son of having some kind of relationship with him," she said. "That's how my son took it, too." Mother One said it was Turchetta's hostility, coupled with fears for her son's safety, that led her to remove her son from the school last week.

Since the Sandusky scandal broke, many have speculated over Victim One's identity; his mother says some in their community have figured out who he is, and have threatened the boy for being gay (which, she says, he is not).

A few days prior to removing her son from the school, Mother One said she learned some students had been threatening her son. She said she called principal Probst immediately.

"I heard that some kids were going to do some gang beating on my son," she said she told Probst. "I want to make sure you are aware of that and that Mike Gillum was going to talk to the county to see if we could get some police up there, to take whatever measure's to keep him safe."

Mother One said the principal responded by saying: "Okay, we're going to have a meeting and we'll get back to you."

Mother One said she persisted.

"I tried to tell her that the school needed to educate these kids about what my son has been through," she said. "I suggested them having a student assembly where they could talk about abuse so they could understand what has happened."

When the principal called back, she was more concerned about a BB gun found in the back of her son's vehicle more than a month earlier, according to Mother One.

"There was nothing about her meeting, nothing about my son's safety. No response to the threat that some kids were going to hurt my son," Mother One said. "Instead she brought up the BB gun they apparently found over a month ago. She said that he left the school distraught and had a BB gun. And I thought, 'What are you getting at now?' What's that BB gun have to do with this? That BB gun is rusty and probably 100 years old. It's been sitting in his car forever." Bewildered by the school's inaction, she removed her son from the school.
Gillum believes that the school's actions are at odds with some of the statements about how it handled Victim One's complaints.

"Given the disparity between the actions taken when the initial symptoms were observed and the mother requested intervention to determine whether or not he was being victimized by this man, and then for the school officials to resist pursuing law enforcement or children and youth services, then later down the road to have officials claim that they were suspicious of Jerry Sandusky, or concerned about him, is obviously not congruent," he said.

Mother One said she is also troubled by what she believes are inconsistencies with the school officials' testimonies in the grand jury report. She points out that Turchetta claims he became suspicious of Sandusky's behavior and actions around certain students.

"If he suspected something was going on then why didn't he report it?" she asked.

NIGHTMARES EVERY NIGHT

Mother One said she's worried that her son will be further targeted as a result of this article, but decided to be interviewed because she wants her son's story to be heard.

She's also angry that Sandusky is currently free on bail.

"My son can't go anywhere," she said. "He can't go to the mall. Sandusky and his wife were just seen there over the weekend. Can you imagine what that would do to my son if he were to see him?"

She said her son is in constant fear, particularly about being abused again by Sandusky. Neither Victim One nor his mother sleep in their respective bedrooms; the two now sleep on separate couches in their living room.

She says her son has nightmares "every night," and that she does, too. She said she wakes up nightly when she overhears her son's cries in his sleep. He never says what he dreams about.

For his part, Gillum won't go into detail about his patient's mental state. But he noted that in almost all cases, rape and sexual abuse victims suffer from depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress, and think about hurting themselves physically.

Mother One said she hopes that she can give her son a semblance of normalcy one day. Humor, she said, helps. She said her son is a huge fan of Adam Sandler and that his films keep the house laughing.

She adds that her son already has a college in mind, and is hoping for a full scholarship and a possible major in criminology. She says her son watches "CSI" and "all those other cop shows" religiously, and has a heightened sense of justice on behalf of people who have been victimized. She said in a statement to the Patriot-News' Sara Ganim that her son's "major concern in the whole thing" was preventing anyone else from being abused.

Mother One says neither she nor her son have any anger toward Penn State as a whole. She says that the recent candlelight vigil by more than 10,000 Penn State students and State College residents in support of the victims was "very moving -- that was a very nice gesture they did."

She and Gillum also hope that Penn State will learn from this scandal, re-evaluate the policies that they say allowed Sandusky to continue his actions for so long, and perhaps allow the victims themselves to help craft any new policies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...-sandusky-victim-mother_n_1108979.html?page=2

 

[Classy@Home]

As a parent, I am horrified...

Dead, dead, dead - sheet over the head...

The late Sandusky would NOT abuse another child - and principal would be re-learning how to walk.

Talk about trivializing abuse - "Thanks, now our team is gonna lose, and it's your kids fault"

 

[Molson]

Penn State football players received special treatment

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/23/us-usa-crime-coach-paterno-idUSTRE7AM06B20111123

The scandal has raised concerns that a culture of special treatment for the football program under Paterno allowed Sandusky's alleged conduct to continue for years.

Triponey said that during her time at Penn State there was an "ongoing internal debate" about who should decide about how to discipline Penn State football players.
Those involved included herself, the athletic administration, Paterno and Spanier, she said. Triponey also met Spanier and Paterno separately and together to discuss cases involving football players.

Spanier and Paterno made "suggestions, requests and at times demands" to change the process or soften punishment for players who had broken rules, she said.

 

[greenmatter]

oh really ....... jocks get special treatment! no way man! how could that be? i hope it does not spread to other schools too!

SARCASM OFF >>>>>>>

no fuckin' shit !!!! .........

but we are talking about children here ....... special treatment and a get out of jail free card are two different things!

 

[KSP]

oh really ....... jocks get special treatment! no way man! how could that be? i hope it does not spread to other schools too!

SARCASM OFF >>>>>>>

no fuckin' shit !!!! .........

but we are talking about children here ....... special treatment and a get out of jail free card are two different things!

Yeah, scholarship athletes (and even club sport athletes) have often gotten off easier, no doubt. Sometimes they are held to a higher standard than others, often not. The problem is that college athletics has become such a money generating proposition; it undoubtedly warps peoples' sense of right\wrong.

 

[BigDawg]

2 more people have come forward and said sandusky molested them. One from his own family. Back to court he goes.

 

[paladin420]

Anyone watch Sanduskies interview?? I was gonna try to link it But the look on his smug face pissed me back off...i am sure he is just a victim also..gotta get that sarcasm font workin..

 

[Hydrosun]

Victim to victim syndrome, beaten wife to beaten wife / wife beater this may be so, however if Sanduskie created tens of future predators because of his hundred victims, what are we to learn?

One kid one time one execution is what I jump to, but then I think about false accusations and the like which are rampant in family law cases or a lover scorned scenario.

Don't know the answer.

 

[hunt4genetics]

The Sandusky interviews have been so bad, that I am literally expecting him to be dressed like Santa, with a little boy on his lap in his next one.


Why won't his lawyer shut him up?

 

[BigDawg]

he's very manipulative. He thinks if he talks about it then he can convince people he's innocent, since a lot of people that are guilty refuse to talk. He's wrong though. Nobody believes his shit. Too many victims have come forward and a WITNESS. He's done.

 

[med_breeder]

RIP Joe.

 

[GP73LPC]

unless joe died in the last hour, google has him in serious condition...

did i miss something?

 

[med_breeder]

Whoops, seem like the HUffpo jumped the gun.


Joe is still with us.

 

[GP73LPC]

oops, double.

 

[resinryder]

"Paterno died Sunday at a State College, Pa., hospital, suffering in his final days from lung cancer, broken bones and the fallout of a horrific scandal that not only cost him his job, but also his trademark vigor and a portion of his good name. He was 85 years old."

So long Joe.

 

[watts]

huge blow to penn state..

straight up fired paterno after 46 seasons. Not a good way to go out. I bet he falls apart now.

Looks like it... RIP Joe P.

 

[greenmatter]

RIP joe ....... lets hope you are remembered for more than the ABSOLUTE SHIT HEAD decision you made concerning sandusky

1000 pats on the back are erased by 1 "oh shit" .......and your "oh shit" has had lots of us shaking our heads for a while now