Dawgz_Daze
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And I mean, I've stated here multiple times Greg never gave them guys the Chemdawg.
Original Diesel.
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Dawgz_Daze
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At the time Sour and Original Diesel came about, Greg was supposedly filling rooms with Chem91 x Super Skunk. Not even growing the 91. So the bagseed these different crews were popping thinking they had Chemdog probably had a Chem91 x Super Skunk bagseed. Which would make a whole hell of a lot of sense. The stretch in Sour could absolutely be recessive traits coming from either Chemdog91 or Super Skunk popping up in the S1 progeny.
Edit: Swell and Vondo collected the Diesel bagseeds from 1992-1994. Those were the bagseeds that they popped the Diesel #1 and Diesel #2 from, and Diesel 2 is the mother to the Sour cut Manny popped in 1996. The Diesel #2 is the plant that they called Daywrecker, and also was called Headband by 1 person I believe. He called it Headband because how it made him feel. Everyone else called it Diesel. The Weasel also had a "Diesel" at the time but it was just Chemdog91. Chemdog does not really herm and make seeds so I think the popular theory is that the Super Skunk hermed on the Chemdog and thats what made the Diesel seed Swell and Vondo collected.
Edit: Swell and Vondo collected the Diesel bagseeds from 1992-1994. Those were the bagseeds that they popped the Diesel #1 and Diesel #2 from, and Diesel 2 is the mother to the Sour cut Manny popped in 1996. The Diesel #2 is the plant that they called Daywrecker, and also was called Headband by 1 person I believe. He called it Headband because how it made him feel. Everyone else called it Diesel. The Weasel also had a "Diesel" at the time but it was just Chemdog91. Chemdog does not really herm and make seeds so I think the popular theory is that the Super Skunk hermed on the Chemdog and thats what made the Diesel seed Swell and Vondo collected.
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Original Diesel S1 clone ( 2) = Original Diesel clone x Original Diesel clone Reversed.
extreme loud Diesel smell/taste and heavy Indica potency
Feminized Original Diesel project nearly finished , extremely dominant the Original Diesel in X's and especially when Reversed so your guaranteed to get at least 1 Diesel leaning pheno in any of the X's.
extreme loud Diesel smell/taste and heavy Indica potency
Feminized Original Diesel project nearly finished , extremely dominant the Original Diesel in X's and especially when Reversed so your guaranteed to get at least 1 Diesel leaning pheno in any of the X's.
Wheres your picturesVery informative.
Crazy Chester
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ojd - those look great! IMO, the resemblance to both Weasel and AJ's is striking.
PlasmaTube
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Binghamton area here. About to work this 96/Albany/Weasel. IMO being an east coaster comes with an obligatory Haze and Sour badge, lol. But also, after looking at different clones I wanted to work with, the original D represented the best qualities of sours I used to smoke in mid/highschool before moving to NEPA. Back in NY..... Back 2 The Sour. Love this thread.
Plookerkingjon
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Boy does this seem like a f****** rabbit hole
Probably can only be found at a phish show and some rare obscure parking lot, so some Dunning Kruger pollenchucker can bottleneck it some more yar
Probably can only be found at a phish show and some rare obscure parking lot, so some Dunning Kruger pollenchucker can bottleneck it some more yar
taste the original as well as the east coast this weekend.
2-6pm Nov 5 2022 Lincoln Hill Farms, 3792 NY-247, Canandaigua, NY 14424
I'll be doing 3 tastings, hazes, sour/chem/og kush, and then dessert strains
come taste my sungrown herbs...
2-6pm Nov 5 2022 Lincoln Hill Farms, 3792 NY-247, Canandaigua, NY 14424
I'll be doing 3 tastings, hazes, sour/chem/og kush, and then dessert strains
come taste my sungrown herbs...
im not sure dna sequencing would be most effective method. most of the phenotypic traits between cuts is plasticity of secondary metablite pathways. dna could expose a clone if it had a wrong parent/outcross but deciding between f1 clone, f2/s1 seed pop would be very difficult. a standard profile template designed to identify unqiue genes on a strain by strain basis could be a good way to go. for example. chem91 has 5 thc synthases and its genome is actually annotated. so that could be a good place to start.
I would disagree. It's a perfect method to certify any clone is legit. The original would need to be sequenced 1st for this to work. The same cut/Clone will not produce a different DNA sequence no matter who has it. The only way to change that is through Genetic modification which involves adding a specific stretch of DNA into the plant's genome, giving it new or different characteristics. The plant’s genetic makeup is inherited from its parents and its blueprint for growth. Cloned marijuana plants, however, exhibit identical DNA profiles that allow for the tracking of plant material derived from a common genetic lineage. The genotype details the entire spectrum of possibilities for a particular cannabis strain. The reality is that no two genotypes will be identical, even from the same family – unless a plant is cloned.
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led05
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Great year for it; good luck with the festival buddytaste the original as well as the east coast this weekend.
2-6pm Nov 5 2022 Lincoln Hill Farms, 3792 NY-247, Canandaigua, NY 14424
I'll be doing 3 tastings, hazes, sour/chem/og kush, and then dessert strains
come taste my sungrown herbs...
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led05
Chasing The Present
Whom determines archetypes / baselines? Phylos - lol…..
JohnnyChicago
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Northern Lights 
Crazy Chester
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Chunkypigs - you are killing it outdoors!taste the original as well as the east coast this weekend.
2-6pm Nov 5 2022 Lincoln Hill Farms, 3792 NY-247, Canandaigua, NY 14424
I'll be doing 3 tastings, hazes, sour/chem/og kush, and then dessert strains
come taste my sungrown herbs...
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When I was a NY outdoor grower, probably half of my crops were spectacular until the last two-three weeks of flowering - then I'd watch all that hard work and all those big beautiful buds just rot to death during one of those late flower rainy weeks.
But, when that late fall multi-day rain doesn't come - IMO, upstate NY grows even better bud than the Emerald Triangle in CA. I think the higher average humidity helps get the resins extra sticky/greasy with stronger terps than the drier resins produced in CA.
Hats off to your dedication - I know NY outdoor can be challenging and is heart-breaking some years.
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goingrey
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Original Diesel is different than Sour Diesel. Confusing name yes.
Three opinions about the AJ cut's originality. 1) Yes, 2) No 3) It is one from the original seeds but not the only one. I don't know which is true.
