Nutrients and Additives (UK)

[Aardwolf]

My mix Today was Bio Flores maybe 50 ml I don't measure a big dash,
4 caps full of Sensizym,, Lots of Carboload, Maybe 8 or more just pour (I don't measure), 4 cap fulls of Bigbud, 4 & 1/2 caps of Maxicrop Seaweed, 1 drop of superthrive 2 dropps of supervit. 4 (AN capfulls of molasses (into hot'ish water), mother earth tea 2 caps full, organic B 2 caps full, Grandma Eggys F1 & H2 @ 2 capfulls, 40ml Rhizotonic,, PH 6.2...Ec was about ??? Its day 11. Going to use the bottle of bigbud and maxicrop up and add some overdrive for a week before I give some final faze and flush till its leaves are purple. A good 20 days. Over ripened!! It make's the tastiest hash that makes your nose sweat.

The others are in 50ltr pots of bio bizz on water for 10 weeks,


See and Taste the difference!!!!

 

[stgermain]

I use as per bottle. 1ml /l from day 1 of flower.

I personally don't think you can beat house and garden root exel for rooting matters.

...have you tried regen a root?

 

[theherbalizor]

Yes I have.... Not bad but for me its h&g rx. At the app rates and the shear volumes I get thro the rx is a no brainer.

Trying their amino treatment this time round.

 

[Marathanman]

Question about Regeneroot. It says on the bottle to use it all the way through the plants life but as plants stop producing roots a couple of weeks into flower was wondering if its worth using it beyond this point. Cheers for an help.

 

[cheesey]

Question about Regeneroot. It says on the bottle to use it all the way through the plants life but as plants stop producing roots a couple of weeks into flower was wondering if its worth using it beyond this point. Cheers for an help.

plants stop producing roots a couple of weeks into flower ??? i havnt came across that b4 . ive repotted 3 weeks in to flower and at the end of the 10 weeks my pots have been full of roots .

regen a root brakes down the old roots so new roots can grow .
i use it from day 1 clones are taken up untill i start to flush

have a read here

http://www.canadianxpress.com/regen1.html

 

[Marathanman]

Read in a couple of different places the plant puts all its energy into flowering and stops rooting later in flower. I do use it all the way through guess I'll do some more research, will try and find a link to where i read it.

 

[cheesey]

Read in a couple of different places the plant puts all its energy into flowering and stops rooting later in flower. I do use it all the way through guess I'll do some more research, will try and find a link to where i read it.

that dont sound right tbh .

say u put a rooted clone in a 6 ltr pot are u saying it will only grow roots for 2 to 3 weeks ? 2 to 3 weeks the root ball will be so small and the plant wouldnt be drinking alot . maybe 500ml max .

regen a root keeps the root zone healthy fights any unwanted germs and makes new roots out of the roots what die off .

some were i posted pics of root balls 1 with regen a root 1 without .

regen a root photo what nice white heathy root porn , the 1 without was brown not nice looking root ball .

 

[Marathanman]

Just going of what I've read. Rockster states Sativas continue growing roots later into flower and Indicas stop sooner. Its later in flowering when their putting all the energy into flowering. Also read Hydro continue growing roots whislt soil dosn't. its hard to know what to believe. I can believe root growth slows late in flower but just don't know. As you say will use it all the way through. Quote by Sonic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockster
I'm afraid I disagree,indica's and most indica/sativa hybrids root growth slows down greatly with the onset of flowering.

I've repotted a plant at 6 weeks flowering and after it finished examined the roots and they'd grown very little,all but stopped.It was KC Brains Mango.

However,many pure sativa's do have root growth throughout far more of the flowering period.

Quote Sonic
i agree with you mate , but only in soil . i have cut the bottom out of a pot then placed the pot on a bigger pot filled with soil . the roots never go into the new soil .

but flowering plants in an nft set up for example , will all ways be making roots , thats one of the down sides to nft and hydro . to much root growth and not enough bud growth . leafy compared to coco and soil .

plants in flower should be making buds not roots , i have had massive yield with little roots , if the pot is full of roots before flower it can hinder the flowering process .

we want enough root space for the plant to think it can still spread out .

 

[cheesey]

Just going of what I've read. Rockster states Sativas continue growing roots later into flower and Indicas stop sooner. Its later in flowering when their putting all the energy into flowering. Also read Hydro continue growing roots whislt soil dosn't. its hard to know what to believe. I can believe root growth slows late in flower but just don't know. As you say will use it all the way through. Quote by Sonic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockster
I'm afraid I disagree,indica's and most indica/sativa hybrids root growth slows down greatly with the onset of flowering.

I've repotted a plant at 6 weeks flowering and after it finished examined the roots and they'd grown very little,all but stopped.It was KC Brains Mango.

However,many pure sativa's do have root growth throughout far more of the flowering period.

Quote Sonic
i agree with you mate , but only in soil . i have cut the bottom out of a pot then placed the pot on a bigger pot filled with soil . the roots never go into the new soil .

but flowering plants in an nft set up for example , will all ways be making roots , thats one of the down sides to nft and hydro . to much root growth and not enough bud growth . leafy compared to coco and soil .

plants in flower should be making buds not roots , i have had massive yield with little roots , if the pot is full of roots before flower it can hinder the flowering process .

we want enough root space for the plant to think it can still spread out .

i beleve the makers of regen a root 2bh .

 

[Marathanman]

I love the Regeneroot and do use it all the way through was just woindering if I could stop it in late flower but will continue to use it straight through. Thanks for the help Cheesey.

 

[theherbalizor]

Interesting one this...

I think that what is meant by the plant stopping to grow roots in flower is correct to a degree. They certainly do not put out that explosive root growth past week 3-4 like they do in veg and early flower. Which is why most companies that sell a product to clear dead and dying roots and a rooting booster separately will say to discontinue their rooting booster at say week three and continue with their version of hygrozym.

Which is what I do, stop rx at day 21 then weekly add hygrozym to help with dying roots and replacement of.

It would seam that the regen is a multi tool, not only a root booster but a cleaner, conditioner also, if you will.

 

[theherbalizor]

But I think to say that after 3 weeks of flower we completely forget the roots is very wrong. I just think after 3 weeks it's more about maintaining what is already there in it's utmost of health so that dead roots can be reabsorbed and replaced.

 

[~Shhh~]

Interesting discussion for sure, I actually trialed that regenaroot when it first came out, but I had some funky growth on some sour D 2.5 clones after using it (which I realized was down to something else a while after). Point is I discontinued using it.

Regenaroot's description makes it sound a lot like a 'zyme' product as you bring up there herb, I thought it was more root stim in the common sense tbh, wasn't aware of that.

I was also under the impression that roots, slowed growth down significantly during bloom if not halting growth completely. Canna some years back didn't recommend using rhizo till start of week 4 bloom but after some research they said they found it to be beneficial to this point... Most root stims suspend use around this time as herb highlights, so I'd imagine root growth must be on the decline or they'd want to sell us more stim by telling us to use it throughout.

Is regenaroot a zyme + stim together then? As that would explain a few things....

 

[Marathanman]

Thanks guys some really good advice there. Swapped to Regeneroot, Headmasta and Superior Potash having excellent results with them. Can you spot the Chemdog D with the curly leaves.

 

[SuperConductor]

I agree that you don't need to use root boosters after the stretch but regeneroot isn't a root booster, sounds like an enzyme product. I like atazyme myself as it's cheap as chips, growers get seriously ripped off on enzyme products compared to anyone else who uses them. (Sorry just realised this has been mentioned )

Anyone using the Plant Magic coco range yet? Just started using it in veg and plants look good (they udually do anyway so means nowt lol). I'm attracted to it as it was designed by a grower specifically for weed as far as I know. I used their coco but it's very fine and i prefer Canna. Canna feed is crap tho imo. Best i've tried so far is Vitalink, seriously good for a one parter two parters have to be very special to usurp it in my grow room.

 

[Marathanman]

I agree about the vita link I use vitalink earth with seedling soil that cost £1.50 a bag from the local hardware shop given up paying a fortune as you don't need to for good results.

 

[Hoover_lungz]

Cheesey also got me hooked on the Regen root awhile back and its worth every penny.

Here is a list of nutes and adiditives that have never let me down

Canna coco A & B
B'cuzz Stimulator
B'cuzz Boosters
Regen root
Cannazym
Liquid Silicon
Epsom salts
Pk13/14

Keep it simple and you will always have nice tastey buds

 

[~Shhh~]

I notice vitalink earth has an NPK of 2-2-4 not sure what the micro's, but I know it has vitB1... The NPK is the same as Canna Terra, Plagron Terra.

Thinking of using some plant magic bloom nutes or maybe vitakink earth/ Plagron Terra to see if they do any better than Canna terra next run. I gotta check what the micro's on vitalink earth and plantmagic ranges are

 

[Marathanman]

Another good thing about Vita link earth is its only £9 a litre.

 

[~Shhh~]

Hey Marathanman, £9 is a bloody bargain!

When you get a second would you mind posting the micro's that are listed on the side of teh bottle or even better (and less bother ) just take a pic of the label ingredients pls

~S