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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THIS - The Kalergi Plan.

Microbeman

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Ahhh!!

Now I am familiar with them, but only from the historical chronicles.
By the way, and if I'm not mistaken, I think that smallpox could have been transmitted to them by the Spaniards, as I believe they were the first Europeans to visit them...
Although in this particular case of the Haida, if the old chronicles do not lie, peaceful and brief commercial relations were established.
A simple point to supply food (celebrated their fish) for the Spanish frigates that went from the pacific coasts of today's Mexico and USA ports to the Alaska considered Spanish, to expel Russian adventurers.

I seem to remember that the old chronicles described the Haida with surprise and admiration, because depending on when they were visited, they seemed the most prosperous and carefree people in the world, among huge fish banquets that welcomed the whole population...as they seemed the most needy people in the world, all working together to survive...

Of course, I don't know how rigorous these chronicles are...

I believe that the Haida who recovered from smallpox, were later crushed by exterminating their game and introducing high alcohol into their customs (?).

Let me know what is true or false in all these old chronicles. Besides, they could be talking about another native people nearby, confusing them...

Hey, what did the Haida make their boats sails with before the encounter with the Europeans?
And thank you very much for the clarification.

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Painting of a Spanish naval outpost in extreme northwestern Canada or southern Alaska.

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Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

It was indeed the Spaniards, as Europeans who first laid eyes upon Haida Gwaii (Queen Charlotte Islands). Perez the ship's captain, however, what you relate likely refers to Nootka Sound on Vancouver Island far to the south. He did not land at Haida Gwaii but a Haida canoe came out to greet them, did a bit of trading, then Perez headed south.

https://www.3rd1000.com/history3/explorers/perez.htm

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/disco...hfinders-passageways/Pages/pacific-coast.aspx

https://bcbooklook.com/2016/01/26/79-juan-perez/

There are many places named for/by Spanish in the area. I have plied the waters of Strait of Juan de Fuca and been on Cortez Island.

All of the coastal people were very prosperous and advanced societally. They did (and do) have enormous feasts called Potlatch; I've been to a few.

The canoes were carved from a single tree; cedar or Sitka spruce. When I lived at Haida Gwaii logging companies were harvesting Sitka spruce which were 7 metres in diameter.

I do not know the material used for sails but the Haida were skilled at creating fabric and rope.

Accounts of war https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/aborig/haida/havwa01e.html
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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some notes from the original author of the article on The Kalergi Plan - cymrusofren (the author of the Kalergi Plan article )

''It would be great if you were right and none of this was true. Sadly for all of us it is true and the leaders of most European nations have sold out their people and their countries

Here you can see a link where both Schuman and Monnet talk about the need for a supranational EU:

http://www.schuman.info/Strasbourg549.htm

https://www.cvce.eu/obj/address_giv...-en-97baa2cd-c94e-453b-9a3d-16365a816678.html

The Jean-Claude Juncker quote can be seen here word for word, with a source, from Der Spiegel: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Juncker

One of the famous quotes by Barroso is “the EU is an antidote to democratic governments”. A great deal of even more worrying statements by him can be found on the subject and on him wanting the EU empire to be only the start of a bigger global order.

Some quotes are erased Orwellian 1984 style if they give too much of the game away, some may inevitably become paraphrased over time. It is very likely that all of these figures have said far worse things than this in public and private company which we never get to hear about. It’s good that you question and I understand that the enormity of this insane and criminal agenda is a lot to take in but this is going on and it is real.

* All I have to do - is step outside my door - and I know its real - the place is swamped with new migrants - my wife included - since she arrived just over 2 years ago now - legally -

The Spiegel article and others provides a great deal of context to the quote. They all explain how the quote is linked to Juncker helping to introduce the Euro and EU Economic Monetary Union and how tricks are used to get EU politicians to agree to things they don’t understand in European politics. The other quotes mentioned can be found as well and many many more by EU and world leaders on this subject – some inevitably become paraphrased as mentioned. Here’s some more for you here:

http://www.politicalscrapbook.co.uk/klk/the-great-eu-quotes/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...ers-most-outrageous-political-quotations.html

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/New_world_order_(politics)

The Jesuit poster jpeg and the claims made in it are not mine but the group behind it can be found online as can be seen at the bottom of the poster. Personally I don’t agree with all the claims made in the poster although the Jesuits and the Vatican are a very powerful force and no doubt have a great deal of power. The poster hopefully helps people to do their own research in the search for the truth.

My own view is that this is essentially a spiritual battle between good and evil where many pawns are used by both sides. I think sadly that you’re being disingenuous and have chosen to ignore all the evidence provided in the article and elsewhere about the Kalergi plan, the genocidal replacement migration plan and a criminal globalist world system – things which are actually being carried out right now. I’d suggest you’d make better use of your time by trying to look at the big picture and worrying about your own future -''

* he does sound convinced - doesn't he? - are you?
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
...And even Bolsheviks. Research the importance they had for the USSR in the Afghan War...

No, if you are also going to give me lessons in Marxism and Islamism... Which have so many currents and so diverse and even opposed, as Christianity (ask your "Black Pope).. or Europe...

Again, only for laughts..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo6Hwv2wvI

...And, as I told you when you said that maybe you would define yourself as an anarchist "in the UK", heh, with much more ideological coherence than the pseudo-anarchist Sex Pistols concert punks, with an A in a red circle next to the swastika embroidered on their jackets...and those who over time have remained only with the swastika...

Pd:
More of the rich & diverse European Culture: Spanish folk: Muslims and Christian playing flamenco together and singing in Spanish n Arabic at an street open public concert (I don't know if it's in England?):
" I bring your glory n' charm':

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G3YMQMSpayk
 

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- I don't define myself as anything other than a hu-man - a husband - a father - and a friend - I have said that its nice to dream of some Agorist Anarchist Utopia - but I can't see that happening due to the current state of cumulative human understanding and evolution - and not likely to happen in the next 20 years of life - I might be lucky enough to survive - on this earth -

'‘Replacement Migration’ is an official published plan to deliberately bring in at least 56 million people from mostly Africa to Europe by 2050. It’s a very real policy that’s already been planned by both the UN and EU since at least the year 2000 – a policy carried out under the auspices of various inter connected globalist agencies and ‘Non Governmental agencies’ such as the International Organisation for Migration, Global Migration Group, The Africa-EU Partnership, World Bank and the cult of international sustainable development also known as Agenda 21/2030 Agenda.

Mass enforced immigration is recognised by the UN itself as an incitement to genocide as defined by the United Nations even though the UN themselves as well as the EU are proponents of the Replacement Migration plan.''
- <think about that>

* - and I'm pretty sure there will be far more than 56,000,000 - no-one seems to be able to count (or doesn't want us to know) how many migrants are in the country now - so how are they going to be able to do that later? - maybe as now - and for many years - they just pour and pour-in - then someone starts a civil war because of it? - wouldn't surprise me at all -

''And on December 19th 2018 a worldwide agreement called The Global Compact for Migration was also signed in Marakesh. - It essentially gives equal rights to all migrants from across the world to migrate to anywhere they want, whether they are legal or not. The agreement was put in place by the UN and, for all intents and purposes, outlaws any scrutinising or questioning of the plan or of the immigrants themselves by those countries who have signed or by media groups or press within those countries. In the finest Orwellian tradition, any public funding for these press and media groups is recommended to be stopped if they stray from the narrative or ask ‘difficult’ questions when it come to immigration.

Luckily, not all countries have signed this grubby globalist plan. 152 countries voted in favour of the resolution to endorse it, while the United States, Hungary, Israel, Czech Republic and Poland voted against it, and 12 countries including Australia, Switzerland, Chile, Brazil, Estonia, Italy, Bulgaria, Dominican republic and Latvia abstained. 24 countries didn’t vote at all and many of the countries who have signed may yet change their minds. A petition of 130,000 signatures to the UK parliament asking for a parliamentary discussion on the matter was ignored even though the parliament is obliged to discuss any petition with over 100,000 signatures.''

* pretty evident to me what's on the cards from The United Nations - more mass-unfettered immigration - and this is not a very big country at all -

''The Replacment Migration for Europe plan seems to simply be a continuation of the Kalergi plan. No race or peoples are safe from this crazed global unification policy. It’s proposed that other continents and races will then follow until there is a one global homogeneous uniform mass of people in serfdom to the self appointed elite, and all the beautiful diversity of nations, peoples and races on earth are destroyed.

This is sadly no joke. Frans Timmermans, First Vice-President of the European Commission and European Commissioner for Better Regulation, Interinstitutional Relations, the Rule of Law and the Charter of Fundamental Rights, would agree it seems.

Whether Kalergi or anyone else’s vision is being followed word for word or not perhaps is not the main issue. Mass and disproportionate movement of people in to Europe is happening whether we believe it or not. And most are economic migrants not refugees - as initially we were made to believe -

Once those genuinely fleeing wars arrive at the nearest safe country and are given sanctuary as they should, they can claim refugee status. This is why aid from Britain and Europe is much better spent on helping those in need in these safe haven countries nearest to conflict zones such as Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon. But if those claiming to be refugees then insist on moving on to other countries that they have their eye on then they become self chosen economic migrants.''
 
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Montuno

...como el Son...
It was indeed the Spaniards, as Europeans who first laid eyes upon Haida Gwaii (Queen Charlotte Islands). Perez the ship's captain, however, what you relate likely refers to Nootka Sound on Vancouver Island far to the south. He did not land at Haida Gwaii but a Haida canoe came out to greet them, did a bit of trading, then Perez headed south.

https://www.3rd1000.com/history3/explorers/perez.htm

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/disco...hfinders-passageways/Pages/pacific-coast.aspx

https://bcbooklook.com/2016/01/26/79-juan-perez/

There are many places named for/by Spanish in the area. I have plied the waters of Strait of Juan de Fuca and been on Cortez Island.

All of the coastal people were very prosperous and advanced societally. They did (and do) have enormous feasts called Potlatch; I've been to a few.

The canoes were carved from a single tree; cedar or Sitka spruce. When I lived at Haida Gwaii logging companies were harvesting Sitka spruce which were 7 metres in diameter.

I do not know the material used for sails but the Haida were skilled at creating fabric and rope.

Accounts of war https://www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/aborig/haida/havwa01e.html

Thosand thanx!!!
The cousin Sergei gives his "excellet calification" to this post:

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And he tells me to ask Gypsy, now that we are close friends, when he is going to give us a packet of his seeds....
 

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- When you told me Montuno that you were a Marxist Muslim - I had doubts - if that could ever really be possible - and was just a joke - and you can't be serious - lol - and I'm even more sure that you are making it up - after reading the piece below -
Have you also asked how someone can be both Christian and Capitalist? Or Christian and Fascist for that matter (Thou shalt not kill).
These "quotes" supposedly from Jesus;
"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Humans seem quite capable of holding contradictory beliefs. Capitalist and Socialist movements are quite capable of interpreting the bible to support their own agendas.
One great thing about Marx is that he saw through this; "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

A lengthy article but I have quoted a bit. Well worth a read of the whole thing.
Gods and Profits
How capitalism and Christianity aligned in modern America
Concerned that populist politics might endanger their wealth, America’s monied interests did what they do best: They bought a solution. It came in the form of James W. Fifield Jr., a Congregationalist pastor who made his fortune in Southern California by preaching to the fabulously wealthy and accepting their patronage. Fifield, Kruse notes, was especially gifted at assuring wealthy Christians that their riches were evidence of virtue rather than vice. A philosophical descendant of Max Weber, Fifield married Christian thought with a new era of economic development, and spread the gospel through his organization, Spiritual Mobilization. Its mission was simple: to stamp out Christian support for a generous welfare state—which paired naturally with New Deal concern for the poor, elderly, and vulnerable—and to advance a new theory of Christian libertarianism.
https://newrepublic.com/article/121...w-capitalism-and-christianity-aligned-america
 
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- Ya - people are so keen to adopt some off-the-shelf political ideology - but they seem to fail to check if it is in direct conflict with their own off-the-shelf religious ideology - I'm sure that Allah doesn't like any competition with Marx over the minds of billions of people - and demands absolute obedience - or you could be said to have false idols -

- Religion has always interested me as a study - but in all my 60 years - I have never seen, heard, touched, tasted, smelt - nor felt any 'Gods' around nor within me - even aliens have shunned me - preferring to kidnap others for probing - <sulks> so I guess that you could call me ' an un-believer' - in whatever deity you care to name - and I do realize that religion - particularly the Abrahamic religions - are just a way to control the masses - and get them to conform and behave to how whoever is in control wants them to behave - by using a religion as a book of rules that can be broken - so then much punishment ensues - and the people are emasculated and herded and punished by their controllers/powers that be - due to the fear or 'Wrath of God' - Hmmm - not for me - <he says while drinking tea> -



Have you also asked how someone can be both Christian and Capitalist? Or Christian and Fascist for that matter (Thou shalt not kill).
These "quotes" supposedly from Jesus;
"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Humans seem quite capable of holding contradictory beliefs. Capitalist and Socialist movements are quite capable of interpreting the bible to support their own agendas.
One great thing about Marx is that he saw through this; "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

A lengthy article but I have quoted a bit. Well worth a read of the whole thing.
Gods and Profits
How capitalism and Christianity aligned in modern America
Concerned that populist politics might endanger their wealth, America’s monied interests did what they do best: They bought a solution. It came in the form of James W. Fifield Jr., a Congregationalist pastor who made his fortune in Southern California by preaching to the fabulously wealthy and accepting their patronage. Fifield, Kruse notes, was especially gifted at assuring wealthy Christians that their riches were evidence of virtue rather than vice. A philosophical descendant of Max Weber, Fifield married Christian thought with a new era of economic development, and spread the gospel through his organization, Spiritual Mobilization. Its mission was simple: to stamp out Christian support for a generous welfare state—which paired naturally with New Deal concern for the poor, elderly, and vulnerable—and to advance a new theory of Christian libertarianism.
https://newrepublic.com/article/121...w-capitalism-and-christianity-aligned-america
 

mean mr.mustard

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- Ya - people are so keen to adopt some off-the-shelf political ideology - but they seem to fail to check if it is in direct conflict with their own off-the-shelf religious ideology - I'm sure that Allah doesn't like any competition with Marx over the minds of billions of people - and demands absolute obedience - or you could be said to have false idols -

- Religion has always interested me as a study - but in all my 60 years - I have never seen, heard, touched, tasted, smelt - nor felt any 'Gods' around nor within me - even aliens have shunned me - preferring to kidnap others for probing - <sulks> so I guess that you could call me ' an un-believer' - in whatever deity you care to name - and I do realize that religion - particularly the Abrahamic religions - are just a way to control the masses - and get them to conform and behave to how whoever is in control wants them to behave - by using a religion as a book of rules that can be broken - so then much punishment ensues - and the people are emasculated and herded and punished by their controllers/powers that be - due to the fear or 'Wrath of God' - Hmmm - not for me - <he says while drinking tea> -

I laughed heartily when I read this!!

It's very true.

I don't agree with either of my country's main parties completely.

The same goes for religion.

It's scary how many people do.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Enjoy your day Gypsy... mine is coming to a close.

:joint:
 

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- Sadly - to 'The Chosen' few its all about having wealth and power over the people - not only physically - but spiritually too - if you can only make yourself God-like - or at least Prophet like - then tell everyone that you are 'The Only One' - and/or 'The One and Only' - to have direct contact with this magnificent sentient all knowing wizard in the sky - via some sort of shamanic state of mind - you are directly connected to this 'Wild-and-Crazy God' - that can only be seen if totally indoctrinated by learning verbatim a book that was written 200 years after some other 'prophet' had died after he was the only direct human with real contact to 'The Words and Soul of God' - that you happen to have a handy copy of to refer to and replicate - as you write - (or is written by others) - your own religious manifesto - 'The Godly and Only way of Living' -

- Then go around slaughtering a few thousand people - enslaving many others - and forcibly getting them to convert to your brand new religion - after killing most of their families - in the name of your God - your own God - the one you created in your own head - really put the fear up 'em - with sword - bullets and bombs - terror is all important at this stage - and must be used liberally -

Oh - and make sure that you also put the 'Fear of God' into everyone that your converts/now Brethren have to attack and invade - because its 'The Will of God' - to force all people to convert to 'The One and Only God' - by making it a fundamental 'Law of God' - that you cannot deny or ever leave this wonderful new religion - without getting ya head chopped off - <apostasy> - and any child born to you will be owned by this God - and have to abide by its rules and regulations - even if it means that your newly born sons have to get circumcised by a 'Holy Man' - biting the foreskin off the infant - or your daughter having her twat sewn up - (FGM) and many other mad and kinky superstitions and rituals and prayers to follow - every bloody day - day-in and day-out - for all of their physical lives - if they ever want to have some idyllic 'After-Life' - if not you 'Burn in the Fires of Hell!'

- Then - you can tell 'The Brethren' to give you all of their wealth - because its 'Gods Will' to abide by poverty, chastity and total and absolute obedience - and if they don't you rape and pillage and murder thru their communities - spreading more 'Wrath of God' (and Gentleman's Mayonnaise) - as you go - and sooner or later - BINGO! - you have 72 children and ultimate power - and much, much more gold and chocolate and virgins - than you could ever want or need -

* You do have to be a fairly good actor to pull all that off - but the bonus is that then you don't have to die in combat to attain the 72 virgins in the afterlife - you can just take what you please from the 'Pious - Chaste and Obedient' - in this life -

** - The problem is if some other guys get the same ideas as you have to make themselves prophets of their own invented Gods - and plagiarize the same books to write their Bible - or Qu'ran or Talmud/Torah etc - so they know that you are a 'Phoney/Fake' - because they are too - and are following a similar script to you - Then you have serious competition - and have to keep going to war with the competition - getting more converts and slaves - to keep proving that your God - is the real/true God - spreading terror and fear wherever you go -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe9msExUK8
'Life of Brian' - clip - the stoning scene -



I laughed heartily when I read this!!

It's very true.

I don't agree with either of my country's main parties completely.

The same goes for religion.

It's scary how many people do.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Enjoy your day Gypsy... mine is coming to a close.

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Montuno

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Ah Montuno - get off of that fascist horse you keep riding into this thread - just because you have some sorta Tin-Hitler in Spain - that likes his Paella and 'Dancing With Bulls' - there is no need to shine your preconceived spotlight of notions of political placement upon me again - and again - and again - it does get rather tiresome old bean -

- Cannot the people of the world rejoice within and practice their own cultures in their own lands and be happy not to be called a 'Nazi' by a self confessed Marxist Muslim? - is this all part of the Marxist playbook that I am seeing from you - like a stuck record repeating the same trope over and over again? - tut-tut - Critical Race Theory eh? - oh my - <Yawns - then tucks into his fish and chips whilst watching 'Match of the Day' >

* I'm seeing this type of behaviour more and more lately in the news - people being referred to as 'Racist' and 'Nazi' - for loving their country - and practicing their cultural norms - it's bloody ridiculous -

Of course, you know and you misrepresent that I have never said that anyone who celebrates and proudly spreads the good of their culture.
In fact, in this thread I am celebrating and showing culture more than anyone else, and I am anti-fascist.
In fact, just as you seem to have a direct line to God and know his opinion on Marx, I sincerely believe that I know and celebrate my culture as well as others.... much more than you do.

More European culture: 'La Dama de Elche". Iberic (6°-2° BC) sculture , n historic recreación:

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- Well - I'm not about to become involved with no 'Battle of Cultures' with you Montuno - Just be thankful that you have one to enjoy - and I have one too - again - you have to mention your favourite topic - and tell us you are 'anti' about it - does it really matter wtf you are - and in what established old rhetoric/dogma/off-the-shelf trope book - you have had the joy of being indoctrinated into? -

- Are we humans not in a state of perpetual flux anyway ? - our minds and bodies forever changing - developing - then slowly maturing - as we age towards our end - Due to this constant change in our own bodies - does not that change also occur within our minds? - so you cannot really determine where your mind and body will be at next week - you can only work towards improving one or the other - or indeed both simultaneously - which is preferred -

<skips off to play Cricket in the snow>

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Cartoon by Robert Minor in St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1911). Karl Marx surrounded by an appreciative audience of Wall Street financiers: John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, John D. Ryan of National City Bank, and Morgan partner George W. Perkins. Immediately behind Karl Marx is Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Progressive Party.
 

Montuno

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- Barbary Slavers - having a 'White Wednesday Sale' -

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Gyspsy in another life steered me in the direction of a girly bar i ran for a minute does that count? It was like tryna herd cats lol.

Was it Jesus who spoke of "whited sepulchres"?

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I have to leave you definitively with my best wishes: my capacity to digest Visa card meme-demagogue hypocrisy is saturated.
 

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Whether Kalergi or anyone else’s vision is being followed word for word or not perhaps is not the main issue. Mass and disproportionate movement of people in to Europe is happening whether we believe it or not. And most are economic migrants not refugees - as initially we were made to believe - "



This is what I tried to point out in an earlier post. Whether the individual Kalergi Plan is being implemented word for word...replacement immigration is happening nonetheless.
 
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Arr - looks like The Barbary Slavers should look further east - and attend Tuesday afternoon Happy Hour at - The Kon-Tiki Go-Go bar in Angeles City - for prospective slaves - you might be able to make a good bulk deal with the Mamasan there - and drop the bar-fine to around 1500 pesos each for regular gymnastics -

- But for the whole slave-role-playing gig - ya gonna have to pay at least 500 pesos more per lady - so around 2000 pesos for 12 hours or so - IF the gals are into it - since they are all individual contractors/self-employed - and if you don't smell right - they ain't
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I have to leave you definitively with my best wishes: my capacity to digest Visa card hypocrisy is saturated.
 

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This is what I tried to point out in an earlier post. Whether the individual Kalergi Plan is being implemented word for word...replacement immigration is happening nonethelss.

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- Shall we now research The Warburgs? - anyone remember the film/musical Little Orphan Annie? - in that script Daddy Warbuck's was based on Paul Warburg - ahhh - lets look at all the praise on wiki about him first - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg

Paul Warburg.

Warburg c. 1910s
Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve
In office
August 10, 1916 – August 9, 1918
President Woodrow Wilson
Preceded by Frederic Delano
Succeeded by Albert Strauss
Member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors
In office
August 10, 1914 – August 9, 1918
President Woodrow Wilson
Preceded by Position established
Succeeded by Albert Strauss
Personal details
Born Paul Moritz Warburg
August 10, 1868
Hamburg, Germany
Died January 24, 1932 (aged 63)
New York City, New York, U.S.
Political party Democratic
Paul Moritz Warburg (August 10, 1868 – January 24, 1932) was an American investment banker born in Germany, and an early advocate of the U.S. Federal Reserve System.

Career

Paul Moritz Warburg, Addresses and essays, 1930
Although a major factor in German finance, after frequent business trips to New York Warburg settled there in 1902 as a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co., where the influential Jacob Schiff was senior partner. Paul's brother, Felix, was married to Schiff's daughter and both brothers would be involved with Kuhn, Loeb over the years, making partner after marrying into the firms family members.. Warburg remained a partner in the family firm in Hamburg, but he became a naturalized American citizen in 1911. He was a member of Temple Emanu-El in New York City.

Warburg was elected a director of Wells Fargo & Company in February 1910. He resigned in September 1914 following his appointment to the Federal Reserve Board, and Jacob Schiff was elected to his seat on the Wells Fargo board.

Warburg became known as a persuasive advocate of central banking in America. Many of his contemporaries regarded him as the chief driving force behind the establishment of America's central bank. Russell Leffingwell, who served variously as the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, head of the Council on Foreign Relations, and chairman of J.P. Morgan, credited Warburg with doing "yeoman's service in preaching the doctrines and practices of modern [central] European banking" while all other "friends of sound money" were so occupied with battling against the free silver movement that they gave scant thought to the need for currency reform. Harold Kellock of The Century Magazine, characterized Warburg as "the mildest-mannered man that ever personally conducted a revolution". This shy and sensitive man, Kellock continued, "imposed his idea on a nation of a hundred million people".

Upon arriving in New York in 1902, Warburg drafted a critique of the American banking system, which he thought was insufficiently centralized. Self-conscious of his imperfect English and his status as a newcomer, he left his paper to sit in his desk for four years. He overcame his reticence in 1906 after attending a dinner party hosted by Professor Edwin Seligman of Columbia University. Seligman, an advocate of central banking, was impressed with Warburg's extensive knowledge of the financial system and reportedly told him that "It's your duty to get your ideas before the country."

Shortly thereafter, the New York Times published Warburg's "Defects and Needs of our Banking System". Concerning its financial system, he argued, "The United States is in fact at about the same point that had been reached by Europe at the time of the Medicis, and by Asia, in all likelihood, at the time of Hammurabi." The chief reason for this lagging state of development was the lack of a central institution that could rediscount bank promissory notes to facilitate the exchange of promises of future payment for cash. A central bank constructed along the lines of the Reichsbank could fulfill this role, according to Warburg, and thus make it easier for the excess reserves of one bank to be used to bolster the insufficient reserves of another.

Warburg's ideas gained a wider hearing after the panic of 1907 engulfed the country’s financial system, and he subsequently published two more articles elaborating and defending his plans, "A Plan for a Modified Central Bank" and "A United Reserve Bank of the United States". At the same time, he appeared at conferences hosted by Columbia University, the American Economic Society, and the Academy of Political Science.

By 1908, Warburg had gained enough recognition that Nelson Aldrich, the Republican senator from Rhode Island, consulted him for advice on currency reform. The National Monetary Commission, which Aldrich chaired, subsequently interviewed Warburg on multiple occasions. In 1910, Aldrich invited Warburg to attend a secret meeting with other influential bankers on Jekyll Island in Georgia, where the draft of a bill to establish a central bank was worked out. This bill was close enough to the outline that he adumbrated in his three articles that Harold Kellock could write, "Five years from the time Mr. Warburg had begun his single-handed crusade, his ideas were placed before Congress in the form of the Aldrich Bill."

The Aldrich Bill, however, did not become the Federal Reserve Act. The Owen–Glass Bill did. But modern scholars such as Elmus Wicker,Murray Rothbard, William Greider, and Griffin believe that the Aldrich and Owen–Glass bills are so similar that there is little doubt the latter plan was heavily influenced by the former. "The New York bankers got all they wanted", Wicker argues, "with the single exception of banker control. ... The Federal Reserve Act owes as much, if not more, to Senator Aldrich as it does to Representative Glass." Despite some minor quibbles, Warburg himself largely celebrated the Owen–Glass Bill in the North American Review. It was "a source of great satisfaction", he wrote, that both the Democratic and Republican parties had come to embrace the type of plan for which reformers like him had been campaigning.

In 1919, he founded and became first chairman of the American Acceptance Council. He organized and became the first chairman of the International Acceptance Bank of New York in 1921. International Acceptance was acquired by the Bank of the Manhattan Company in 1929, with Warburg becoming chairman of the combined organization.

He became a director of the Council on Foreign Relations at its founding in 1921, remaining on the board until his death. From 1921 to 1926 Warburg was a member of the advisory council of Federal Reserve Board, serving as president of the advisory council in 1924–26. He was also a trustee of the Institute of Economics, founded in 1922; when it was merged into the Brookings Institution in 1927, he became a trustee of the latter, serving until his death.

On March 8, 1929, Warburg warned of the disaster threatened by the wild stock speculation then rampant in the United States, foreshadowing Wall Street Crash of 1929 which occurred in October of that year.

He encouraged German–American cultural cooperation, helping found the Carl Schurz Memorial Foundation in 1930 and serving as its treasurer from May 1930 until his death. He also made substantial contributions to the Warburg Library in Hamburg, founded by his brother, the art historian Aby Warburg; he gave a hall known as the American House to Heidelberg University; and he made generous donations to the Academy of Political Science in Berlin.

The cartoon character, Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks in the Little Orphan Annie series, was purportedly inspired by Warburg's life and times.

* Yup - another one of the same group of Zio-Bankers that funded the Russian Revolution - The Russian-Japanese War - and Adolf - and Churchill/Roosevelt - plus a host of others no-doubt - lots of money to wipe out lots of people - from the Chosen People - with their own agenda - an elite clique of private bankers - those who created The Federal Reserve - so that they would have control over all the money -

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Daddy Warbucks exercising his tonsils in Annie -
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
- whoops - that was Paul Warburg above - not his brother Max as mentioned in the Kalergi pic-

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Warburg

Max Warburg.

Max Warburg
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Max Warburg in 1904
Born Max Moritz Warburg
June 5, 1867
Hamburg, Germany
Died December 26, 1946 (aged 79)
New York City
Occupation Banker
Spouse(s) Alice Magnus ?(m. 1899)?
Children Eric Warburg (1900–1990)
Max Moritz Warburg (5 June 1867 – 26 December 1946) was a German-Jewish banker and scion of the wealthy Warburg family based in Hamburg, Germany.

Max Warburg was one of seven children born to Moritz Warburg, the director of the family's Hamburg bank, and his wife Charlotte Oppenheim of the Oppenheim family, another prominent German-Jewish banking family.

His siblings were art historian and cultural theorist Abraham Warburg; chief architect of the Federal Reserve Board of the United States Paul Warburg; Felix, son-in-law to Jacob Schiff and partner at Kuhn, Loeb & Co.; Fritz; Olga; and Louisa.

Career
He apprenticed in Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris, and London. From 1910 until 1938, he was director of M. M. Warburg & Co. in Hamburg, Germany. As head of that firm, he advised Kaiser Wilhelm II prior to World War I.

In the 1930s, despite the rise of the Nazi Party, Warburg felt there was hope for the future in Germany and tried to wait out the Nazi crisis. From 1933, he served on the board of the German Reichsbank under governor Hjalmar Schacht. He sold the bank because the 1935 Nuremberg laws set the framework and campaign of Aryanization. He then emigrated to the United States in 1938.


''From 1933-1938, he served on the board of the German Reichsbank under governor Hjalmar Schacht. ''

Hjalmar Schacht - was HITLERS BANKER -


* interesting personal report on Hjalmar Schacht - observed at the Nuremberg Trials - where he was acquitted -
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...cribes-hjalmar-schacht-at-the-nuremberg-trial
 
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I reckon you're a Zionist in disguise. Y'know why? You slipped up when you used the Yiddish term: "Shill".
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He does come across as a bit wacky...come to think of it he comes across as extraordinarily wacky. I quit putting faith in our Presidents long ago when I realized they were all just merely stooges and puppets...dancing for their zionist masters is all.

I'm simply amazed at the number of people who support Biden (read some of the comments here on Icmag) and still believe that the president and presidency has any say or weight concerning the ruling of the USA. It's called 'The Illusion of Choice'. I never supported Trump either. He's a zionist shill also.
 
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