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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THIS - The Kalergi Plan.

Gypsy Nirvana

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- Here we go down the philosophical rabbit/worm hole - hold on tight!

Actual Idealism.

- Actual Idealism research papers examine the system of philosophy, developed by Giovanni Gentile, that thought is all that truly exists and that the act of thinking is what defines reality -

- Actual idealism is a system of philosophy developed by the Sicilian-born philosopher Giovanni Gentile (1875-1944). Two fundamental assumptions of actual idealism are that thought is all that truly exists and that the act of thinking is what defines reality - 'Actual Idealism' - Gentile’s system dismissed the possibility that anything could meaningfully exist which was apart from or unrelated to thought - As such, actual idealism presented reality as the product of the mind’s efforts to understand the world - At the same time, Gentile maintained that all human activity was, in effect, a form of thought. In short, therefore, action and thought were one and the same -

- When he used actual idealism to analyze the state, Gentile concluded that the state is but the combined product of the workings of individual minds—the expression of the citizens’ collective thought and will. The state is genuinely ethical to the extent that it functions as a Spirit which fully merges individual and community and embodies the universal values and aspirations of the people -

- Ultimately, individual thought and will are subsumed within the state as an eternal that exists beyond the people. This key premise of actual idealism that individuality must be subsumed within and sacrificed to the shared interests of an all-encompassing corporatist state helps to explain -

- Giovanni Gentile’s position as the “philosopher of fascism” who exerted long-enduring influences as Minister of Public Education in the government of Benito Mussolini -

https://www.papermasters.com/actual-idealism.html


- Mc Fly just got a pic off to me - and it doesn't look good Montuno - on the way to Salisbury Plain (Stone Henge) - in 2400BC - he had a bit of an accident with the Flux Capacitor - it got a bit too hot - so that's going to take some time to fix -

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Microbeman

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What a cool photo and what a nice drawing that goes all over the boat...
They look like Canadian Pacific to me (?) (It would be great to give more info with these pictures...)

To your eyes, another Iberic-Oretanic (6°-2° centuries BC, aprox) lion founded close to my home, but this time, a male with a person in its clutches:

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Correct, these are typical west coast [British Columbia and Alaska region] vessels, referred to as war canoes. The Haida of the island group called Haida Gwaii were [are] considered the most fierce of these nations of indigenous people.

They voyaged and attacked and traded with other indigenous nations as far south as Mexico [archeologically evidenced]; perhaps further. They built and lived in massive homes made from hewn wooden timbers. They produced great works of art from wood and stone and created lovely painted designs as you have noted.

When the Europeans showed up, they sunk a number of their ships until the pink people smartened up and killed them off with disease.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Correct, these are typical west coast [British Columbia and Alaska region] vessels, referred to as war canoes. The Haida of the island group called Haida Gwaii were [are] considered the most fierce of these nations of indigenous people.

They voyaged and attacked and traded with other indigenous nations as far south as Mexico [archeologically evidenced]; perhaps further. They built and lived in massive homes made from hewn wooden timbers. They produced great works of art from wood and stone and created lovely painted designs as you have noted.

When the Europeans showed up, they sunk a number of their ships until the pink people smartened up and killed them off with disease.

Yes - interesting bit of history Microbeman - they also had war canoes out in the South-Sea's/Pacific Islands - and the Haida is an ancient culture that slowly is being lost in the march of time methinks - because other invasive cultures have found their way into decimating what you have left - no-doubt - 'cultural erosion' you could say -

- After reading the newspapers today - they say a whole bunch of pink-people are being killed with some disease/virus - so perhaps karma can be a bitch to everyone after all - lol

- Since Mc Fly is out of action - for the foreseeable future - I've been hunting around for a new time machine - and have kinda narrowed it down to 2 - due to cost and availability - which one would you go for on looks - without looking into specifications just yet - they are both capable for the work we need them for - mad looking real 'Steam-Punk' machines eh?


- This one looks kinda simple - and easier to operate than the other one -
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- Smart looking machine this one - much more brass/copper - but quite a bit more expensive - Hmmmmm -

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Montuno

...como el Son...
Correct, these are typical west coast [British Columbia and Alaska region] vessels, referred to as war canoes. The Haida of the island group called Haida Gwaii were [are] considered the most fierce of these nations of indigenous people.

They voyaged and attacked and traded with other indigenous nations as far south as Mexico [archeologically evidenced]; perhaps further. They built and lived in massive homes made from hewn wooden timbers. They produced great works of art from wood and stone and created lovely painted designs as you have noted.

When the Europeans showed up, they sunk a number of their ships until the pink people smartened up and killed them off with disease.

Ahhh!!

Now I am familiar with them, but only from the historical chronicles.
By the way, and if I'm not mistaken, I think that smallpox could have been transmitted to them by the Spaniards, as I believe they were the first Europeans to visit them...
Although in this particular case of the Haida, if the old chronicles do not lie, peaceful and brief commercial relations were established.
A simple point to supply food (celebrated their fish) for the Spanish frigates that went from the pacific coasts of today's Mexico and USA ports to the Alaska considered Spanish, to expel Russian adventurers.

I seem to remember that the old chronicles described the Haida with surprise and admiration, because depending on when they were visited, they seemed the most prosperous and carefree people in the world, among huge fish banquets that welcomed the whole population...as they seemed the most needy people in the world, all working together to survive...

Of course, I don't know how rigorous these chronicles are...

I believe that the Haida who recovered from smallpox, were later crushed by exterminating their game and introducing high alcohol into their customs (?).

Let me know what is true or false in all these old chronicles. Besides, they could be talking about another native people nearby, confusing them...

Hey, what did the Haida make their boats sails with before the encounter with the Europeans?
And thank you very much for the clarification.

Pd:
Painting of a Spanish naval outpost in extreme northwestern Canada or southern Alaska.

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Microbeman

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"they say a whole bunch of pink-people are being killed with some disease/virus - so perhaps karma can be a bitch to everyone after all - lol'

LOL indeed. More karma which is occurring is that indigenous people across Canada are actually reclaiming and re culturing their culture so to speak. The karma part comes in where many of them have become very knowledgeable lawyers and are enforcing or attempting to enforce the original treaties which give them power over the land
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpVio_d_iHw
How it was possible to keep accurate statistics on immigration to Britain in 1910, but not in 2020


* Simon wonders why the UK government cannot supply immigration data - perhaps they know that the UK public will be outraged - if they do - or perhaps they cannot due to mass-unfettered immigration via the open door policy - which ties in nicely with The Kalergi Plan - keeping the Brits in the dark about the whole plan - of cultural ethnocide -
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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"they say a whole bunch of pink-people are being killed with some disease/virus - so perhaps karma can be a bitch to everyone after all - lol'

LOL indeed. More karma which is occurring is that indigenous people across Canada are actually reclaiming and re culturing their culture so to speak. The karma part comes in where many of them have become very knowledgeable lawyers and are enforcing or attempting to enforce the original treaties which give them power over the land

- Well that's good to know - so many of the treaties made between the governments and the natives were broken over time - even though many N.American Indians gave up so much of their land people and culture to appease the new masses of settlers from Europe mainly - and to make peace - on some allotted reservation - often far from their happy hunting grounds - which were decimated too -

- Great to hear that there are still strong members of the tribe fighting for their rights - and hopefully winning - as lawyers in a court of law - that hopefully ain't fixed against them -

- Jolly good luck to the Haida -
 

Veggia farmer

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"they say a whole bunch of pink-people are being killed with some disease/virus - so perhaps karma can be a bitch to everyone after all - lol'

LOL indeed. More karma which is occurring is that indigenous people across Canada are actually reclaiming and re culturing their culture so to speak. The karma part comes in where many of them have become very knowledgeable lawyers and are enforcing or attempting to enforce the original treaties which give them power over the land

Yeah? Awesome! I see it happening over here too. The Saami national day was yesterday and its culture is more and more interpreted in the country. Sadly lots of discriminating still in North especially. My son were celebrating there day on school on friday, making Bidos to the whole school. He alse made it with his mom and I got some good left-overs too!:)

Just a short time ago, one man was senteced to jail for some aggresive or hate speech comment towards a Saami woman on FB(?). Not sure the level of aggresive: I dont like Saami VS I will kill you Saami. Anyways he got some time in the corner to think about the subject. Clearly a big thing, since this is the first time that kind of defence happened here towards there culture. Im very glad for that.
 

Montuno

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Yes - interesting bit of history Microbeman - they also had war canoes out in the South-Sea's/Pacific Islands - and the Haida is an ancient culture that slowly is being lost in the march of time methinks - because other invasive cultures have found their way into decimating what you have left - no-doubt - 'cultural erosion' you could say - (...)

LOL indeed. More karma which is occurring is that indigenous people across Canada are actually reclaiming and re culturing their culture so to speak. The karma part comes in where many of them have become very knowledgeable lawyers and are enforcing or attempting to enforce the original treaties which give them power over the land

Comparing the American "cultural apocalypse" that the European invasions brought about, with the fear that immigration will erase your cultural identity... Yet another "argument" that you share with the ultra-right and neo-fascism... And that's the last time...

I don't see those who share your message in North America as being very concerned about the preservation of native cultural richness and diversity...

Like the Spanish neo-Francoist ultra-right wing of VOX that repeats the same thing here,
I don't see them very much in favour of the preservation of Nahualt, or Quiche, or Aymara, or Guarani...

But Gypsy, I do detect "Montezuma syndrome" in you....

Pd
...And while we're on the subject of karma & messages...

(I swear by the ashes of Jah's joints, by the Holy Calyx of Christ of Valencia and by the favourite dromedary of the Prophet Muhammed, that the dog and the lighter happened to me once in the middle of the sierra and without a light...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VraBp0k4Cpc
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Ah Montuno - get off of that fascist horse you keep riding into this thread - just because you have some sorta Tin-Hitler in Spain - that likes his Paella and 'Dancing With Bulls' - there is no need to shine your preconceived spotlight of notions of political placement upon me again - and again - and again - it does get rather tiresome old bean -

- Cannot the people of the world rejoice within and practice their own cultures in their own lands and be happy not to be called a 'Nazi' by a self confessed Marxist Muslim? - is this all part of the Marxist playbook that I am seeing from you - like a stuck record repeating the same trope over and over again? - tut-tut - Critical Race Theory eh? - oh my - <Yawns - then tucks into his fish and chips whilst watching 'Match of the Day' >

* I'm seeing this type of behaviour more and more lately in the news - people being referred to as 'Racist' and 'Nazi' - for loving their country - and practicing their cultural norms - it's bloody ridiculous -



Comparing the American "cultural apocalypse" that the European invasions brought about, with the fear that immigration will erase your cultural identity... Yet another "argument" that you share with the ultra-right and neo-fascism... And that's the last time...

I don't see those who share your message in North America as being very concerned about the preservation of native cultural richness and diversity...

Like the Spanish neo-Francoist ultra-right wing of VOX that repeats the same thing here,
I don't see them very much in favour of the preservation of Nahualt, or Quiche, or Aymara, or Guarani...

Pd
...And while we're on the subject of karma & messages...

(I swear by the ashes of Jah's joints, by the Holy Calyx of Christ of Valencia and by the favourite dromedary of the Prophet Muhammed, that the dog and the lighter happened to me once in the middle of the sierra and without a light...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VraBp0k4Cpc
 
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Switcher56

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- Well that's good to know - so many of the treaties made between the governments and the natives were broken over time - even though many N.American Indians gave up so much of their land people and culture to appease the new masses of settlers from Europe mainly - and to make peace - on some allotted reservation - often far from their happy hunting grounds - which were decimated too -

- Great to hear that there are still strong members of the tribe fighting for their rights - and hopefully winning - as lawyers in a court of law - that hopefully ain't fixed against them -

- Jolly good luck to the Haida -
Unfortunately, "their" rights are being misrepresented. e.g the treaty states... (current lobster fisheries (fishing out of season)). Lobster was better known as fertilizer for quite some spell (in Canada anyway).

There are so many horror stories I can site... a lot fueled by our Southern neighbours.

Here is a pic shot from Laverendrye Wildlife Preserve, where natives still live off the land, circa '87
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The natives are the only ones allowed to guide there. These folks from all accounts (I've been told) live their lives as their ancestors, with preservation of all fauna. "The land provides what we need" not govt.
 

Montuno

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And to celebrate what Europe really stands for, here "this Marxist Muslim" celebrate n' shows you the beauty of my cousins European Christian culture: Christian-Catholic-Rociera wedding, with the bride on foot dancing with the groom's horse:

(By the favourite female dromedary of the Prophet Muhammed and the crumbs in Marx's beard, which makes my hair stand on end...)

Observe the delicacy of the horse (a P.R.E., a direct ancestor of the Mustang of the USA) for not stepping on the very long tail of the bride's dress...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dEZdCYuQ9k
 

Microbeman

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And to celebrate what Europe really stands for, here "this Marxist Muslim" celebrate n' shows you the beauty of my cousins European Christian culture: Christian-Catholic-Rociera wedding, with the bride on foot dancing with the groom's horse:

(By the favourite female dromedary of the Prophet Muhammed and the crumbs in Marx's beard, which makes my hair stand on end...)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dEZdCYuQ9k

I had a female friend named Andalusia who stayed at my farm and rode my horses beautifully. She was a natural in the saddle - born to ride. The Andalusian horses are what began my horse period of life.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- When you told me Montuno that you were a Marxist Muslim - I had doubts - if that could ever really be possible - and was just a joke - and you can't be serious - lol - and I'm even more sure that you are making it up - after reading the piece below -

Are Marxism and Islam Mutually Compatible?

Editorial

Some time ago, I received an email from an old student. One of its paragraphs read:

- Sir, I belong to the Marxist school of thought. Therefore, naturally I'm in favour of a communist / socialist society. But I'm not a dogmatist. I always try to keep myself sensitive to criticism. And I think that this is the right approach to Marxism: to scientifically and to objectively analyse the human society, without any personal (or at least minimum) biases. However, I'm a Muslim as well ...

- Seeing an opportunity to comment on Marxism, I replied in the following way:

When you say that you are a Marxist as well as a Muslim - you are making a statement which is internally contradictory - You are either one or the other - Because Marxism - the little I understand of it - has a complete philosophy on life - likewise has Islam - Their respective philosophies do not coincide at all - in fact, they are poles apart - However - that doesn't mean that a good Muslim cannot be impressed by any of the Marxist ideas at all - What cannot however happen is that you accept both philosophies at the same time -

- Either we have been created purposefully by God or we accidentally came into being by a chance interplay of some indefinable physical forces - How can both understandings be simultaneously correct? - Either God has sent own His message to guide us or He hasn't -

- Both can't be simultaneously correct assertions - Therefore, I would like you to be clear about your correct position. As a Marxist too, you might accept (or tolerate) some aspects of Islam - but what you will accept would not be true Islam - its going to be just bits and pieces of it -


- This was his reply:

- Most of the time when I talk about Marxism to people, even if they objectively agree with me, they end up saying that it is 'un-Islamic', or, 'some / all of its ideas are in contradiction with Islamic principles', or, 'capitalism is more in line with Islamic principles than socialism'. I have really tried to think over this problem but have not come to a final conclusion. So far, I have not been able to see any fundamental contradictions between Islamic principles of societal organisation and that enshrined in a socialist system.

- This was my response:

- As I have mentioned in my previous reply, it may be possible that you find that there are some apparent similarities in the two approaches. That would not make you a Marxist. It would just be by default. The fact that I find some good aspects in the personality of Abu Jahal (and there were most certainly some in him) doesn't mean that I should declare that my ideals are both Muhammad (sws) and Abu Jahal. I would feel ashamed of being bracketed with the latter because of the basic blunder he committed. Likewise, in case of Marxism, if I find some good aspects in it, I would have no hesitation in mentioning that they are good because they are consistent with the spirit of Islam. However, I'll be very careful in ensuring that my fascination with Marxism is not influencing my understanding of Islam. That would mean that I am distorting the message of God because I would like it to appear more acceptable to Marxism. There is a real danger of doing just that when your mind is unclear about its ideals.

- This was his reply:

I would then like to pose a question to you: 'How is a socialist system in contradiction with an Islamic system?'

My answer to his query was :

- Marxism, I believe, conflicts with Islamic teachings, apart from many other areas, in the following important aspects of its understanding:

1. In its fundamental understanding of the origins of man and the universe.

2. In its refusal to grant to the individual the right to own property.

3. In its attitude of creating hatred in some men against some others.

4. In its assumption that man can work effectively even without personal incentives. (This is something that has already been proven wrong by the unsuccessful socialist experiment of the deceased USSR)

5. In its approach of granting a status to Karl Marx that belongs only to the prophets of Allah.


https://www.al-mawrid.org/index.php/articles/view/are-marxism-and-islam-mutually-compatible

- Ha - a Marxist Muslim - must be like a Nazi Jew then - and there were thousands of them - <scratches chin thoughtfully - and looks cross-eyed at the screen>

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Montuno

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I had a female friend named Andalusia who stayed at my farm and rode my horses beautifully. She was a natural in the saddle - born to ride. The Andalusian horses are what began my horse period of life.

Wich race? P.R.E. of Hispanic-Arabic?
USA Mustangs are mainly originated by these horses.
Is funny how the Spanish horses rovolution the USA natives lives, n how a "new culture" borns... Sadly for a short time...
 

Montuno

...como el Son...
- When you told me Montuno that you were a Marxist Muslim - I had doubts - if that could ever really be possible - and was just a joke - and you can't be serious - lol -
a Marxist Muslim - must be like a Nazi Jew then - and there were thousands of them - <scratches chin thoughtfully - and looks cross-eyed at the screen>
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...And even Bolsheviks. Research the importance they had for the USSR in the Afghan War...

No, if you are also going to give me lessons in Marxism and Islamism... Which have so many currents and so diverse and even opposed, as Christianity (ask your "Black Pope).. or Europe...

Again, only for laughts..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo6Hwv2wvI
 

Veggia farmer

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The sad thing about you Boss. When the folks keep on comparing you to the "right wing" movement, including faschism and "Nazino".

It does NOT make you shut the fuck up:tiphat:

I so wonder about that. Dont you understand that it should de-bunk you, or was it to negate you to silencio? Du er en seig hestkuk!:tumbleweed: Ever heard about the Gypsy following Nazi propaganda, HE must be mad as hell:artist:

Montuno, Me and You I would believe have a lot of the same values in life. So when you want to negate the boss, can you explain in this thread. Just so we know we can be on the same page. If this plan is just Nazi propaganda. Why did the Nazi make that propaganda. In other words what where they motive? Lets display it for the sake of the topic. Yeyeyee, I know of some myself. We all KNOW what kinda of madman HE was and all that shit. The Guy with some Jew blood that wanted all the Jews dead and all shit. Atleast thats what we are told. But since his story is just SO outrages MAD, do we even dare to lift that stone and look inside the madmans mind? We all know The Garden of Eden is the mad mans utopia.

I WASN'T REALLY SCARED
LOST MY VIRGINITY THERE,
TO A GYPSY WITH BLOND HAIR
BUT NOW NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE
LIKE A MOUSE INSIDE A MAZE
WANDERING ROUND 4 DAZE
WITH A SMILE UPON MY FACE,
I NEVER WANNA LEAVE THIS PLACE
ONLY POOR BOYS TAKE A CHANCE,
ON THE GARDEN'S SONG AND DANCE,
FEEL HER FLOWERS AS THEY WRAP AROUND,
BUT ONLY SMART BOYS DO WITHOUT
TURNED INTO MY WORST PHOBIA,
A CRAZY MAN'S UTOPIA
IF YOU'RE LOST NO ONE CAN SHOW YA,
BUT IT SURE WAS GLAD TO KNOW YA
BYE BYE
SO LONG, BYE BYE
IT'S GLAD TO KNOW YA
BYE BYE
BYE BYE
AW...SO LONG


When we go through the agendas behind the games played out, wouldnt we discover the truth?

I suggest as mentioned before, maybe with other intention, lets have a cup of coffee with some LSD. Lets make it a few.... Pots...
 

Absolem

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https://medium.com/@EOnAntisemitism...jews-are-behind-a-white-genocide-3e5607f6949f

"Those that believe the Jews are behind a huge plot a conspiracy Kalergi or An “allergy” of hate. To rid Europe of all the white people (some Jews are white btw) and replace them with people from “foreign lands” is one of the most laughable ideas I’ve ever heard! However it’s become a sickening virus that has spread by antisemites on popular social media and by unmonitored social media
Out of 14 million Jews in the world and billions of non, how would this even be possible after reading the literature stemming from this insane conspiracy it’s noted that most of the people that are organizing or so-called organizing the “white flight” or the eradication of white people are actually Christians.
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White genocide is a myth based on pseudoscience, pseudohistory, and hatred, it seems
To be driven by a psychological panic often termed “white extinction anxiety”.
There is no evidence that white people are dying out or that they will die out, or that anyone is trying to exterminate them as a race.
The purpose of the conspiracy theory is to scare white people,and justify a commitment to a white nationalist agenda in support of increasingly successful calls to violence.
The theory was popularized by white supremacist, neo-Nazi, and convicted felon David Lane around 1995.
Yet this has been leveraged as propaganda in Europe, North America, South Africa, and Australia. Similar conspiracy theories were part of the discourse in Nazi Germany, as exemplified in a pamphletÛi written for the “Research Department for the Jewish question” of Walter Frank’s “Reich Institute” with the title “Are the White Nations Dying? The Future of the White and the Colored Nations in the Light of Biological Statistics.”
The conspiracy theory has also been commonly used both interchangeably with, and as a broader and more extreme version of, Renaud Camus’s 2012 “The Great Replacement”, which focuses on the white Christian population of France.
Since the 2019 Christchurch and El Paso shootings, of which the shooters’ manifestos decried a “white replacement” and have named The Great Replacement; author Bat Ye’or’s 2002 Eurabia concept,Camus’s 2012 Great Replacement fallacy (often called replacement theory or population replacement),and Gerd Honsik’s resurgent 1970s myth of a Kalergi plan,have all been used synonymously with “white genocide” and are increasingly referred to as variations of the conspiracy theory."
 

Absolem

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https://conspiracytheoriesarchives.com/blog/post/reharsals-great-replacement-kalergi-plan

According to the conspiracy theory on the Kalergi Plan (called Coudenhove-Kalergi Conspiracy also), there would be an occult plan to encourage African and Asian immigration to Europe in order to replace their "indigenous" populations.
The authorship of this theory, which finds credit especially in Right Wing scene, is attributed to the Austrian philosopher Richard Nikolaus of Coudenhove-Kalergi (1894-1972), from whom it takes its name, and was later developed through a selection, reworking and decontextualization of the original ideas by the Austrian denialist Gerd Honsik (condemned on two occasions, in 1992 and 2009, for having publicly denied the historical truth of the Holocaust) in his book "Kalergi Plan" (2005).

Since the end of World War I, Kalergi, founder of the Pan-European Union in 1922, had expressed the need for continental integration in order to promote the peaceful coexistence of peoples: in his book "Praktischer Idealismus" -Pratical Idealism- (1925), Kalergi distinguished between "Rustic man", son of endogamy, strong of will but weak of spirit, and "Urban man", the result of racial mixture or Blutmischung, feeble-tempered but rich in spirit, hoping for a worldwide diffusion of the latter as more inclined to the maintenance of peace.

Honsik reinterpreted these concepts as an attempt to nullify national and local identities, to impose the ethnic "mestizaje" and the "genocide" of the European peoples to replace them with the Asian-African ones in order to obtain an indistinct ethnicity of docile consumers, bent the needs of the market and the desire for world domination by unspecified political, intellectual, scientific and economic elites in Jewish-Masonic style.

Actually, Kalergi hypothesizes only a confederate union of States between the different European powers with the mutual guarantee of individual sovereignty and respect for the different European cultures, in contrast to the imperialist and totalitarian ideals of the time and despite the aforementioned "Praktischer Idealismus" Kalergi limited to the criticism of theses such as those of the superior race of the German nationalist mystic and the Nietzschean superman and in "Paneuropa" was far from theorising an elitist hegemony, Honsik is convinced that there are the premises of the alleged plan he denounced.

Later Kalergi Plan was used by the propaganda of the Third Reich, which personalized it in an anti-German key, following an agreement protocol - never applied - of the Allies of the Morgenthau Plan (then secretary to the US Treasury) of occupation of Germany after World War II: in this rereading, the attack on Germany would have been the result of the hostility of the American Jewish-Masonic finance and press which aimed to destroy the German economy also through a cultural and ethnic weakening.
 
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