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My father wants me to become a Mason

GET MO

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I dont know much but I just want to compliment yall masons on making some of the best jars on the market for a decent price.
Jay-z is a Mason, Im pretty sure there are congregations that allow all races, probly not in minesota tho.

I just wqnna say that there are good and bad people in all races and religions, probly some devil worshipping masons and some god worshipping masons, they just grew and branched off on different paths. Dont judge all of anything by the actions of some thing.
..... sept for racist groups like the kkk, fuck those guys.
 

B. Friendly

"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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And how would you do that, guaranteeing something of that you can't have any knowledge...

Anyways...

Here's the hogwash the masons are about...

http://www.illuminati-news.com/e-books/morals-dogma/apike.htm

:wave:
Like I said earlier Speaking as a Rosicrucian of which 2 of the Masons degrees are taken from all our Mystical Schools are connected. As I have deep intimate knowledge of what it means to be a member of a Society then by all means I have every ability to speak here. Unlike you who have know knowledge of what you speak.
Thank you come again.

you're truly the blind leading the blind. I guess I should believe everything I read coming from you oh knowing one.
 
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Happy 7

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Like I said earlier Speaking as a Rosicrucian of which 2 of the Masons degrees are taken from all our Mystical Schools are connected. As I have deep intimate knowledge of what it means to be a member of a Society then by all means I have every ability to speak here. Unlike you who have know knowledge of what you speak.
Thank you come again.

you're truly the blind leading the blind. I guess I should believe everything I read coming from you oh knowing one.

O'Really? So being a fan of Christian Rosenkreuz enables you to know how the approx. 2 million masons in America voted?

Interesting...
 

B. Friendly

"IBIUBU" Sayeith the Dude
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O'Really? So being a fan of Christian Rosenkreuz enables you to know how the approx. 2 million masons in America voted?

Interesting...
all you know is pointless facts about a group which may or may not be true.
Thank you come again. lol
Last time I waste my breath on you.
Adios
 

Baba Ku

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The university of Louisville womens basketball team just played the very first bball game in a brand new sports arena. +22,000 in attendance. Not one man allowed to play on the Louisville squad nor on the opposing Tennessee team.
It's just not right that a man can't play for either one of those teams. They must be bigoted, and have some very screwed up thoughts to even think about separation of any sort...don't you agree? Ah, but there is a team that the boys can play on, so maybe it's ok?

Eastern Star
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Personally, I enjoy the devil worship bit. It is great entertainment to see it discussed.
 

Baba Ku

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I thought they were just bigoted and hated women and kids....
:dunno:

Freemasonry and Women

In Freemasonry, as in all other areas of life, women play an important role. The opportunities for women to participate in Freemasonry are widespread and meet a variety of needs, from social interaction in the Orders for both men and women, to the unique needs met in the "women only" Masonic-related organizations. The moral and ethical values that Freemasonry encourages are universal and not gender-based.

Masonic Lodges maintain today a long-standing tradition of restricting membership in Freemasonry to men. This tradition is based on the historical all male membership of stonemasons guilds. During the Middle Ages, men traveled far from home and lived in lodges while constructing great cathedrals throughout Europe.

However, in the middle 1800s the fraternity took the progressive step, for that time, of creating organizations that included women, so that men and women could share Masonic fraternalism. The Order of the Eastern Star (the largest of these Masonic-related groups) was established in 1855, the Order of the Amaranth in 1873, and the White Shrine of Jerusalem in 1894.

Two national Masonic-related youth organizations are for young women: the International Order of Job’s Daughters, founded in 1920, and the International Order of Rainbow for Girls, founded in 1922. Rainbow and Job’s Daughters are involved with local charities, community services, and educational programs.

Other Masonic-related organizations limit their membership to women only, such as the Ladies Oriental Shrine of North America, Daughters of the Nile, the Daughters of Mokanna, and the Social Order of Beauceant. These Masonic-related organizations, like many organizations in North America, both social and professional, base their membership on gender. Junior League, P.E.O., National Association of Female Executives, and Girl Scouts, for instance, are organizations created exclusively for women, established to fulfill their unique interests and specific needs.
 

JWP

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Whats the attraction? In the past these types of groups may have been attractive because they have axx to information that most other dont. But now in the time of "google" info is free for all.
My take on the Masons is; Its like a pyramid scheme or religion where people at the top benefit in some way while providing the illusion of benefit to its members.
A privileged few may in fact have axx to original artifacts or knowledge of them and the "group" is a means of pooling resources. The fact that the group even exists is evidence that a "goal" is yet to be reached. Its highly probable that unless you brought significant knowledge and or resources to the table you would just be someones bitch. Most would do well to recognise this and be wary of such groups.
 

Grimr3efer

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Im in a secret society. Shit now its not so secret!
I tell them shit and it fucks with their head.
Beta Alpha Gamma Chi Chang (BAGie Clan)
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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there are many benevolent societies, fraternities and sororities

the benefit of working with like minded individuals is not lost on all

there are other groups like lions club, elks club, moose lodge, just off the top of my head that use this membership for social and business networking.

Many groups simply find that doing charitable works has such great intangible returns that it comes a part of ones life calling

now as you go up in the world of high finance there is privilege and exclusivity but to be honest these are not the hurdles they seem if you want to get rich in america

people see these organizations as controlling, but they like people are really only capable of influence relative to the the consolidation of resources the organization provides

let not forget all the special interest groups and lobbies

our political landscape, the world political landscape is to diverse and free willed to control directly so while i believe groups exist to exert control and influence politics for their own personal gain it does not reflect the true intent behind them all

I myself believe we should adhere to a Jeffersonian model of democracy, and I think these organizations (trade, religious and otherwise) are great mechanism in a Jeffersonian climate

in a economical and political landscape such as our the influence of organizations such as special interest lobbies are destroying the fabric of america by diluting the constitutional laws that were designed to maintain a balance between social liberty and private freedoms

in a time when we were all free men, knowing who was and wasn't your brother was more of a life and death decision, economic or otherwise, perhaps fraternity or guild membership was a far more important factor

many immigrants opened fraternities to have a sense of community after coming to America

there is a greater sociological phenomenon behind this and its impact on our psychology is evident by lack of relativity in the analysis of said organization

i think these organizations had great membership influx in the 1900s, look at television back then, many were members of a local lodge or fraternity

like the flintstones and honeymooners
 

Baba Ku

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Whats the attraction? In the past these types of groups may have been attractive because they have axx to information that most other dont. But now in the time of "google" info is free for all.
My take on the Masons is; Its like a pyramid scheme or religion where people at the top benefit in some way while providing the illusion of benefit to its members.
A privileged few may in fact have axx to original artifacts or knowledge of them and the "group" is a means of pooling resources. The fact that the group even exists is evidence that a "goal" is yet to be reached. Its highly probable that unless you brought significant knowledge and or resources to the table you would just be someones bitch. Most would do well to recognise this and be wary of such groups.

That's an interesting take, but it is as off base with reality as some of the other fantastic takes that have been aired.

See, it is no ponzi scheme at all. And there is nothing that the head honcho of a lodge, any lodge, has or attains that the newest Master Mason doesn't also have or attain. Both the newest member and the oldest leader are equally provided with illumination.
The goal is to use the illumination to better ones self, to provide the best they can for their family, to provide relief to those who are met with misfortune and loss, all while maintaining a personal reverence for God...in whatever form you believe that supreme being to be.

And trust me...any Mason will come to the aid of another Mason if he is asked, without hesitation. And if any of you conspiracy theorists want to make something, make something out of that. The other stuff you dream up is simply entertainment for the enlightened.
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
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to be completely honest

my imagination coupled with my grandiose (but not necessarily pompous) take on things makes almost most secrets when I find them out lack luster

id rather people keep em and I think my twisted little thoughts and scare the fuck out of myself by proxy

fear and loathing

loathing and fear
 

headband 707

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That's an interesting take, but it is as off base with reality as some of the other fantastic takes that have been aired.

See, it is no ponzi scheme at all. And there is nothing that the head honcho of a lodge, any lodge, has or attains that the newest Master Mason doesn't also have or attain. Both the newest member and the oldest leader are equally provided with illumination.
The goal is to use the illumination to better ones self, to provide the best they can for their family, to provide relief to those who are met with misfortune and loss, all while maintaining a personal reverence for God...in whatever form you believe that supreme being to be.

And trust me...any Mason will come to the aid of another Mason if he is asked, without hesitation. And if any of you conspiracy theorists want to make something, make something out of that. The other stuff you dream up is simply entertainment for the enlightened.

Well it's funny you say this as we all know that should a man be poor down and out I don't think the masons would be calling at his door .. Seems to me they are picked and they are picked for what they have i.e. "wealth" and not just "wealth but old white wealth the worst wealth of them all!!!!!m Look I'm all for old guys getting out and doing good things my hats off to anyone that does that shit.. The stuff I start to wonder about is those weird meetings and weird rituals reminds me of the good old dayz when these things were WRONG !! lol.. If I had ever heard one story about a mason doing somthing really great out there in la la land that would be different but I don't. peace out Headband707:artist:
 

JWP

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That's an interesting take, but it is as off base with reality as some of the other fantastic takes that have been aired.

See, it is no ponzi scheme at all. And there is nothing that the head honcho of a lodge, any lodge, has or attains that the newest Master Mason doesn't also have or attain. Both the newest member and the oldest leader are equally provided with illumination.
The goal is to use the illumination to better ones self, to provide the best they can for their family, to provide relief to those who are met with misfortune and loss, all while maintaining a personal reverence for God...in whatever form you believe that supreme being to be.

And trust me...any Mason will come to the aid of another Mason if he is asked, without hesitation. And if any of you conspiracy theorists want to make something, make something out of that. The other stuff you dream up is simply entertainment for the enlightened.

You use the term "illumination" loosely.

How can one reach enlightenment when their belief system does not allow them.

As if a new member can even comprehend the idea let alone acept that the group holds knowledge of when Enoch was taken by ancient aliens and tought many skills including masonry and now the goal is dominate the planet to procure diamonds for cutting granite & diorite. Also to try and figure a way to save themselves from the destruction of the fourth world and even get into space.

Seriously a new member can even consider this? Then go back to reading his bible and have some trouble and a grand master will come to his aid? I doubt it! But the top of the food chain does. That is why they are using their resources to build D.U.M.B.S and denver airport lol

Illumination is not something that can be "provided".

Cut back on the fluoride bro. Your pineal is seizing up ;)
 

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