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Mostly Ace, Mostly Sativa

Keif Cake

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The outlier of the Rainbow Dragons Fire, all the others have the typical sativa lemon variations, this one smells more like Grand Daddy Purple, a grape fresh clean smell, hint of sweet skunkiness in the background, very low yielder, currently working on a reveg with two pollinated branches. One with the GDP x Frozen Margy, and more importantly the other one with Old Timers Haze pollen. Cant wait to get the RDF x OTH seeds popped.

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I'm sad i can't cross this with the GT x Panama plant i had. I planned on reversing the GT Panama to pollinate with, so i guess new plans are to reverse this one, and run all of the remaining GT x Panama seeds i have at that time and make the cross that way, fingers crossed even a better GT Panama specimen appears.

I'm also very interested in popping the Rainbow Dragons Fire x OTH to find a male and cross with the GT Panama polyhybrid. By the time the seeds are dry enough, i should be on the way with GT Panama to make selections for the best females to pair with RDF x OTH male.

I love the thoughts of what novel plants will pop out of such a super polyhybrid as Golden Tiger x Panama x Rainbow Dragons Fire x Old Timers Haze will produce.
The RDF, too much to remember and type, i misstated it having it Panama it, as it does not.
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I am also probably even more excited at the thought of RDF x Honduras Panama, that should produce some very special unique terp descendants.
Now that I'm thinking about it, that one may be the first one i do. Already have seeds going to make selections for the gassy HonPan hybrid i want to do. I guess a lot of it depends on how quick or slow this RDF revegges.
 

Keif Cake

Active member
Time for a bit of an update.

Waiting on a few things to finish up so I can start the remaining 8 GT x Panama and these Chocolate Thai IBL that's unrelated to the Double Chocolate Thai.
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Still have 4 Hubba Bubba (Bubblegum x Bubba Kush) in the veg tent, put the 2 biggest most vigorous in Flower last night, and i will hit them with OTH for some delicious sounding Hubba Bubba Haze. Also pictured are some Rainbow Dragons Fire offspring (S1 and Frz Margy x GDP cross), Lil Red Riding Hood (getting run a 2nd time solely based on Terps, kinda like a berry Sprite, haven't smoked yet), the RDF cutting, and a P Destroyer x OTH.
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The P Destroyer x OTH F2. I don't really recognize the leaf shape on this one from anything I've run.
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I wasn't planning on using any males from the Rainbow Dragons Fire offspring i started, which was a few S1's and 2 (RDF x FrozenMargy x Granddaddy Purple) but this RDF x FRMRGY
is speaking to me, love the purple and the OG structure, most definitely will hit some of the Hubba Bubba's with it.
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The remaining stock of the 2015 Destroyer, 3 out of 15 came up, hoping for a female to hit with OTH and make more F1's. If all males which is highly likely, I'll have to decide what to do with them then.
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13 Purple Destroyer x OTH F2 in this tray, and 2 Blueberry Muffin x (Frozen Margy x GDP)
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1 of the 3 Blueberry Muffin x OTH is a Female, the 2 males i will be trashing and looking for a better. This female looks really nice, and was the one i guessed would be male early on.
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Waiting on a Warranty light to be delivered, operating on 1 light in the 4x8 right now. This side of the tent has 4 Acapulco Gold females, trashed 2 females and male for intersex traits as well as one of the Thai females. Also on this side are the Green Destroyer x OTH F1 and P Destroyer x OTH F2, Chem 91 S1 pollinated on several branches with OTH, a nice tall OG structured Fire Purp (Fire OG x Mendo Purps) that has a wonderful Grape Candy soda smell, pollinated the lower "branches" with P Destroyer x OTH F2 pollen a couple nights back. Also running a few Hashplants (Z26 x HP13) which is a Zkittles S1 selection x Hashplant 13, hoping it comes out very nice like some Blue Hashplant i had gotten a few ounces many years ago, i will be using the RDF x Fr x GDP male on some of these, and most definitely the OTH male. Kinda cutoff on the left side is GT Panama x Destroyer OTH.
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On this side of the 4x8 are several Thai x DCT, the RDF cutting, a couple of Fire Purps, and 2 Rest in Peace (Ghost OG x Chem 91).
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The 4x4 has 5 or 6 Loompas Headband x Triangle Kush finishing up, a Frozen Margy x GDP, 1 or 2 of the Fire Purps, 2 Rest in Peace, and the tallest Z26 x HP13.
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Edit: pollinated the RDF cutting with P Destroyer x OTH
 
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Keif Cake

Active member
Yay! Replacement light came in.

I think I've determined that both of the GT Panama x Destroyer OTH turned out to be female. I didn't write on the pot many weeks ago when i uppotted, was thinking i trashed one as being a male, but i think i remember the GT Panama having this curved point on the leaf with variegation on a few leaves.
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Also, these two branch ends are from 2 different plants, and none of the Thai have these types of double serration, nor do the leaves flare out.

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Orange / White and Red / White are the plant tags. Both have very similar Candelabra-esque structure, similar branchiness, and just about the same height.
If my memory of the variegation is correct, the Orange/White tag one is going to be something quite nice.
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Keif Cake

Active member
Update 5 weeks later

8 GT Panama i had left going strong
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Blueberry Haze
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The latest Acapulco Gold that showed sex, grew quite tall. The other ones stayed shorter because of keeping them in small pots. I started trashing males because of intersex, but every male produced pistils, so i used 3 of them to make more seeds. She is quite resinous, nice bud structure, and good smells, vastly different than the AG i did from Ass Medical / Bodhi stock.
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AG seeds and resin
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Ended up with 2 Destroyer females
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And 1 Destroyer Male. All 3 look like the short Colombian
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The Thai
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I think these 2 may be pollen Contamination from the Ethiopian that hermed next to the Thai's
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Stark difference in growth from any of the Thai's grown, and that structure is Ethiopian
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Creeperpark

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Update 5 weeks later

8 GT Panama i had left going strong
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Blueberry Haze
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The latest Acapulco Gold that showed sex, grew quite tall. The other ones stayed shorter because of keeping them in small pots. I started trashing males because of intersex, but every male produced pistils, so i used 3 of them to make more seeds. She is quite resinous, nice bud structure, and good smells, vastly different than the AG i did from Ass Medical / Bodhi stock.
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AG seeds and resin
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Ended up with 2 Destroyer females
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And 1 Destroyer Male. All 3 look like the short Colombian
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The Thai
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I think these 2 may be pollen Contamination from the Ethiopian that hermed next to the Thai's
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Stark difference in growth from any of the Thai's grown, and that structure is Ethiopian
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Damn those are looking kick ass friend.
 

Keif Cake

Active member
2 GT Panama x Destroyer OTH
The one on the right smells just like the mother did.

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2 more Destroyer x OTH
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One of the better looking Zkittles x Hashplant
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The best looking Zkittles x Hashplant, smells like very oldschool bud
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A mix of 2 Zkittles x Hashplant, 4 Hubba Bubba, BB Muffin cutting, and 2 Rainbow Dragons Fire cuttings.
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One of the nicest Hubba Bubba, a few of these look/smell promising
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Airloom

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Update 5 weeks later

8 GT Panama i had left going strong
View attachment 18956604
Blueberry Haze
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The latest Acapulco Gold that showed sex, grew quite tall. The other ones stayed shorter because of keeping them in small pots. I started trashing males because of intersex, but every male produced pistils, so i used 3 of them to make more seeds. She is quite resinous, nice bud structure, and good smells, vastly different than the AG i did from Ass Medical / Bodhi stock.
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AG seeds and resin
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Ended up with 2 Destroyer females
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And 1 Destroyer Male. All 3 look like the short Colombian
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The Thai
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I think these 2 may be pollen Contamination from the Ethiopian that hermed next to the Thai's
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Stark difference in growth from any of the Thai's grown, and that structure is Ethiopian
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Looking very nice man
 

dubi

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Amazing job you are doing with all the plants and your own crosses @Keif Cake 💪
The new GT Panama x Destroyer OTH has an exceptional sativa gene pool and looks very promising yet balanced. Destroyer OTH is wilder. I'm curious to know which one you prefer in the end.

I think you are right about the two volunteers; they look more Ethiopian.
Is the Thai plant you mentioned a pure Chiang Mai?
 
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