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idiit

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The shoot down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 came into greater focus with the December 15 YouTube video featuring a former crew member of BUK self-propelled fire installation, number 312 (BUK 312). Ukraine’s government and others maintained that the BUK 312 unit shot down MH17 while manned by a resistance crew. The Obama administration championed that narrative holding both the resistance and Russia responsible for the 298 deaths on July 17. The interview was conducted by investigative journalist Anatoly Sharij and translated by Marina Stewart (see full test in English at end of this article). (Image: BUK 312 in Kiev junta terrotiry – Anatoly Sharij)

The shoot down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 came into greater focus with the December 15 YouTube video featuring a former crew member of BUK self-propelled fire installation, number 312 (BUK 312). Ukraine’s government and others maintained that the BUK 312 unit shot down MH17 while manned by a resistance crew. The Obama administration championed that narrative holding both the resistance and Russia responsible for the 298 deaths on July 17. The interview was conducted by investigative journalist Anatoly Sharij and translated by Marina Stewart (see full test in English at end of this article). (Image: BUK 312 in Kiev junta terrotiry – Anatoly Sharij)

The 23-year-old former BUK 312 crewmember revealed that the missile unit was in fact manned by the Ukraine military..

http://www.ukrainewar.info/shooting-mh-17-buk-312-story-false-says-ukraine-crew-member/

^ this incident was blamed on russia and used as cause for a lot of anti-russia actions; military, financial,

^ sound familiar? it's called a "false flag". these false flags are allowing the aggressors to portray themselves as "white hats" in global sleeze stream media propaganda stories.
 

gaiusmarius

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if the way this was handled doesnt wake someone up to the lies about Ukraine, then nothing will.

isn't it strange how not another word has been uttered about this event, it's like it never happened. they got what they wanted out of this event....hostile feeling between the people of the world.
 

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Secret witness claims Ukrainian Su-25 downed Malaysian Boeing MH17
The man claims that on that day of the tragedy, he was staying on the air base in the village of Aviatorskoe, near Dnepropetrovsk. He could see what weapons the departing and returning warplanes were flying with. He could also hear comments from pilots.
According to him, there were two aircraft that were outfitted with air-to-air missiles. Earlier, the ammunition had been decommissioned, although later, in connection with an "urgent order," the resource was extended. "No, he could not mix it up. The missiles differ in size, fin assembly and coloration. It is very easy to identify them. After a while, only one plane returned, two others were shot down somewhere in the east of Ukraine, as I was told. Only one plane returned, on which those missiles had been mounted. The aircraft returned without the missiles. The pilot was very scared," the unnamed witness told the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper.
The witness believes that the man, who shot down the passenger plane, was captain Vladislav Voloshin, from the city of Nikolaev. "I know the pilot a little. It is quite possible that when two fighters were shot down in front of his eyes, he could fire the missiles out of freight or revenge. Maybe he took it for some other combat aircraft," the witness said.
"The phrase that he said when he was taken off the plane was: "The wrong plane." Later in the evening, another pilot asked Voloshin what happened to the plane. He replied: "The plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time."

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A French former airline director has claimed that the US military may have shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 and covered it up.
 

idiit

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This story suggests that the Ukrainian pilot, Captain Voloshin, shot down MH17 via mis-identification with a real target. So, with the eastern Ukrainians lacking any real air force, what target was Captain Voloshin searching for that would look like a Boeing passenger jet?

As it happens, Russian President Vladimir Putin was flying through the same area on that very day, returning home from a six day visit to Cuba and South America. Putin's Presidential jet, not as grand as Air Force One, is based on the Ilyushin 96. The IL-96 is a passenger jet, and is painted with a similar color scheme to the Malaysian 777. At a distance, they could easily have been confused for one another!



Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3MqEelLiZ

So Kiev wanted to murder Putin, to throw the Russian government into turmoil while Kiev reconquered the east (and possibly Crimea), but botched the operation, shooting down MH17 instead, then tried to drop the blame on Russia.

Read more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3MqEQ1of6

http://whatreallyhappened.com/#axzz3LhzZxqSq

The Russian investigators earlier questioned a Ukrainian witness who claimed that he had seen a Ukrainian Air Force Su-25 combat jet taking off from an airbase in eastern Dnipropetrovsk carrying air-to-air missiles and returning without them on the day of the MH17 crash. The witness identified the SU-25 pilot as Capt. Vladislav Voloshin.

“It is easy to find out whether Voloshin flew a combat mission on July 17,” spokesman Vladimir Markin said.

“Let Kiev show the so-called combat mission log to Dutch investigators, or better yet, let Voloshin take a lie-detector test with Dutch or Malaysian experts,” Markin added.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/uk...ld-take-polygraph-test-russian-investigators/
 

Elmer Bud

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G`day I

What I would like to see is footage of the BUK being fired .
Or the exhaust trail that it leaves in the sky for 20 minutes or more ?
That would be a pretty big smokin gun .[pardon the pun ].

Also BUK is designed to travel above its target and detonate . Not detonate below its target ...


@ PW
All airlines are advised of flight paths by international flight control . Every day reassessments are made and flight paths adjusted . MH 17 was directed into the war zone by air traffic control .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

idiit

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shit just gone wild:

In an even bolder move, it is now revealed, Israel will withdraw its settlers from communities beyond the settlement blocs—and relocate them at least temporarily to Ukraine. Ukraine made this arrangement on the basis of historic ties and in exchange for desperately needed military assistance against Russia. This surprising turn of events had an even more surprising origin: genetics, a field in which Israeli scholars have long excelled.

^ the following link is a must read imo.

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leak...secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
 

Mikell

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The Ukrainian fighter theory seems plausible, up until you realize the confusion in Moscow would be temporary, quickly followed by the complete dismanting of the Ukraine as an independent nation for the next century.

If, like Georgia, the Ukranians were incited to bait the bear, they would suffer the same lack of support afterwards.
 

Elmer Bud

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G`day I

Israel / USA / Saudi Arabia Vs Iran / Russia / China .

Its the battle for global supremacy . ISIS is a tool to slow down /cause regime change in Iran .

Who are sitting on the worlds largest gas deposits .

Interesting ISIS has not attacked Israel ? Or US facilities ??

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

siropchik

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This is short film "Unintentionally"
About today tv zombie Moscovians.

A couple of hours before the New Year a neighbor comes to an old lady for some salt. And quite suddenly kills her. And now his whole family, that gets together to celebrate the New Year, is to find out what to do now, and who is to blame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422327029&v=DsUfVADEouQ&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=694

Boeing was just unexpectedness
No need translate
 
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gaiusmarius

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no idea where else to post this, but it looks like the Ukrainian gov is actually using terrorist methods to kill the leaders of the separatist movement that developed right after the orchestrated Maidan revolution.

they caught one of the guys that was planting i.e.d.'s (improvised explosive device) in restaurants in the center of town. notice how there was hardly a word about this attack in the corporate owned msm. if it's not the right type of victim and perpetrator, or if it makes them look bad, they will just drown the story out by covering the airwaves with distraction stories, anything to get your mind off the fact that the Ukrainian government is sponsoring terrorism against it's own citizens. quite incredible really. imagine if the victim was the leader of Israel who got blown up in a public restaurant by some Arab secret service, you think the word terrorism wouldn't be mentioned even once covering the event? yeah right, pull the other one, it has bells. the glaring biased hypocrisy is so obvious you'd have to be blind, death and dumb as shit not to see it. it's called a double standard and it's whats waking up the planet, slowly but slowly.....:D


CONFESSION! DNR Leader Zakharchenko Was Killed by a Bomb Made in USA

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edited to add:Ukraine is also involved in huge weapons shipments to the Syrian head choppers, it's all been exposed, they are raking in big bucks on supplying old soviet era gear to the Syrian insurgents and terrorist groups.
 

gaiusmarius

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new information

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Serial numbers of missile that downed MH17 show it was owned by Ukraine - MoD

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quite interesting, time will tell...
 

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