Lophophora Williamsii (Peyote) cactus growing

[Frosty Nuggets]

Just thought I would start a thread on Lophophora Williamsii (Peyote) cactus growing as I am sourcing some here in Australia.
How quick do they grow?
How big do they grow?
How many grams do you need for a hero dose?
Is it best to eat the cactus or make a tea from it?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KXgAAOSwsMNh-8vy/s-l800.webp

 

[Somatek]

They grow very slow, which is why most people grow T. Peruvianus for personal use as it grows much quicker despite having lower alkaloid concentrations.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

They grow very slowly, even in the desert environment they come from. It IS still growing... right!!?!? lol

The size of your palm? Bigger? Not sure really.

Wait... you eat these?? What kind of a hero? lol

I only know the natives around here make tea out of it. I have no personal experience with it, just brief conversations on the subject.

 

[BOMBAYCAT]

What he sez, very slow to grow. I believe on the internet they have other types of cactus available in the quantities needed. If you can get the Vice Network on cable, look for streaming of Hamilton's Pharma as they have episodes about all sorts of drugs. Among the episodes are a show about Peyote and also one about a South American cactus.

 

[Hombre del mont]

I have several growing in my garden and they take may years to grow to maturity, if i was intending to take it I wouldn't bother growing it as it just takes too long. As @Somatek says, if you want to get high then look to T. Peruvianus. They grow real quick in comparison; Our local garden centre has them; 3 or 4 in a little pot for about 3euros. I have many protecting our cortijo from evil spirts.
They grow really well and quickly from cuttings.

The garden centre also sells Peyote buttons but they are only a couple of years old and you need many for a trip. I have them growing at the base of my San Pedros.

You've gone and got my mind working now ad I'm thinking, "?maybe its time to do some San Pedro again"

 

[nono_fr]

This year I pop some cactus under light - this is a cheap way to have cactus
not very good pics because battery are low

I build an open box for them with a 36 W chinese led

I will give them 14 hours of light until fall , after they sleep for winter .

I have pop astrophytum mix to have mandala/star shape, they born but after the died - the don't like too wet .
I will try again next year

the astrophytum :

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for psychedelic there is the san Pedro - Echinopsis pachanoi ( mescaline ) grow faster than peyotl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinopsis_pachanoi

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Indeed, San Pedro grows very well in many places. Now that you mention it, I probably have 40+ cuttings at the moment. lolol I sell them at the local market for $5 each. I tasted one once and it was suuuper bitter. Not my bag, but like I said before they do sell well.

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

Thanks guys, I think I will save my money for T. Peruvianus then.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Read up on grafting.

 

[elchischas]

Some really rare and valuable crested lophophora Friccii plant

 

[nono_fr]

@ elchischas : I find the lophophora Friccii on a site which says that it is also known as false Peyote because mescaline in it, is low !!! -> https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Lophophora_fricii

@ Douglas.Curtis :I bought a 50 cm long one in San Sebastian ( Euskadi - north Spain ), but we took it as tea with sugar to 5 people and the effects were too light . May not be the right way to take it.

@: mean mr.mustard Read up on grafting. : If a cactus flowering once, it will flowering all the time and his cutting too !

 

[Somatek]

@ elchischas : I find the lophophora Friccii on a site which says that it is also known as false Peyote because mescaline in it, is low !!! -> https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Lophophora_fricii

Peyote growers are usually more obsessed with the cacti then getting high, what makes that plant rare/valuable is the size, shape and beauty of it. Not the mescaline content which is easier/more efficient to produce by growing T. Peruvianus considering the growth rate and mescaline concentration.

I'd guess you had a light experience when you and your friends tried it in Spain was from taking a light dose more then taking it improperly as you need to take a lot of san pedro/T. Peruvianus due to the low mescaline concentration.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Fresh cuttings Give em 3 days for the cut to dry and then plant and water occasionally. They grow cuttings from the healed cut area when their top is cut off.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Peruvian Torch is very similar and I have heard is muuuch more potent than San Pedro.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Almost 3 years...

So cuuute though, yeah?? lololol

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

This one is Peruvian Torch, abouuut... 2 years old? Cut the top off and made a new mum out of it, so this one would sprout new cuttings.

 

[Hombre del mont]

Peyote growers are usually more obsessed with the cacti then getting high, what makes that plant rare/valuable is the size, shape and beauty of it. Not the mescaline content which is easier/more efficient to produce by growing T. Peruvianus considering the growth rate and mescaline concentration.

I'd guess you had a light experience when you and your friends tried it in Spain was from taking a light dose more then taking it improperly as you need to take a lot of san pedro/T. Peruvianus due to the low mescaline concentration.

I grow Peyote for the reasons above!

San Pedro is a slow burn but kicks ass when done correctly; Similar to Ayahuasca, but also very different, as I'm sure you know.

 

[Hombre del mont]

@ elchischas : I find the lophophora Friccii on a site which says that it is also known as false Peyote because mescaline in it, is low !!! -> https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Lophophora_fricii

@ Douglas.Curtis :I bought a 50 cm long one in San Sebastian ( Euskadi - north Spain ), but we took it as tea with sugar to 5 people and the effects were too light . May not be the right way to take it.

@: mean mr.mustard Read up on grafting. : If a cactus flowering once, it will flowering all the time and his cutting too !

That would be a strong dose for one person if prepared correctly.

 

[Somatek]

I grow Peyote for the reasons above!

San Pedro is a slow burn but kicks ass when done correctly; Similar to Ayahuasca, but also very different, as I'm sure you know.

I'm not surprised there's another loph head on ICmag, sadly I just have a couple wee babies and nothing magnificent to show off. Just two wee L. Williamsii and 3 L. Diffusa that are horribly etiolated from neglect. Maybe once the pot garden is set up I'll look at expanding with some Peruvian Torch. It's been years since I had a mixed entheogenic garden and what better use of space then to grow your own trip.

 

[nono_fr]

This is a virtual visit of a cactus grower . ( english subtitles are not too bad ! )

For winter time, he have a greenhouse at 5°C ( 41 °F ) for cactus that don't like too cold . And the pthers stay outside, but he cover a lot of them because they can resist very cold if the soil is not wet .
Survival requirements are necessary to make them flourish .

A15'20, he shows us his mothers cactus . He keep preciously one of each species . He take cuttings from them to have some cactus which can bloom to sell them .


same visit at summer time :


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I'd guess you had a light experience when you and your friends tried it in Spain was from taking a light dose more then taking it improperly as you need to take a lot of san pedro/T. Peruvianus due to the low mescaline concentration.

Yes, I lived near field where there was psilocybin ( some cow fields ) when I was teenager . But you're right to say to be careful !