Well that is setting the bar low. I prefer decriminalization.Even with your use of beautiful words, it's no wonder you haven't comprehended the OP...... sport.
Legalize MJ ! Really? No I mean REALLY?
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Well that is setting the bar low. I prefer decriminalization.Even with your use of beautiful words, it's no wonder you haven't comprehended the OP...... sport.
As with the dog man, you too cannot fathom the original intent of the thread. You're still stuck on asking pretty please if you can grow a natural weed product for profit.
I get the original intent of the thread and I'm saying that there is several other points that are exponentially more important that render the point of the thread null and void. I think that is what Dag is saying as well.
the government is fucking stupid...look at NJ. they made medical legal but the laws are so strict that the black market will still live.
the black market will always live...i just dont see the gov pumping out cheap weed for the masses anytime soon. why would they? doesnt make sense......i see them doing whats happening in CO. highly regulated warehouses that rape the owners in taxes and rules, and the warehouses can only pump out through their government dispensarys, which are gonna charge top dollar to keep that tax money coming. all governments in this country are about REVENUE right now, not compassion....even though in california a cancer patient might get weed for free or cheap, the regular stoners are gonna get waxed.
of course its all speculation..until then fuck it. i got clubs beggin for my OG but i keep it black market. i like seeing my relatives and homies make a little money selling and smoking my bud....i like the way things are, but im preparing for the worst as well. already invested into a legal industry that will always be around, so if weed crashes then i got other avenues...but until then MAKE DUE WHILE THE SUN SHINES!!
the black market will always live...i just dont see the gov pumping out cheap weed for the masses anytime soon. why would they? doesnt make sense......i see them doing whats happening in CO. highly regulated warehouses that rape the owners in taxes and rules, and the warehouses can only pump out through their government dispensarys, which are gonna charge top dollar to keep that tax money coming. all governments in this country are about REVENUE right now, not compassion....even though in california a cancer patient might get weed for free or cheap, the regular stoners are gonna get waxed.
of course its all speculation..until then fuck it. i got clubs beggin for my OG but i keep it black market. i like seeing my relatives and homies make a little money selling and smoking my bud....i like the way things are, but im preparing for the worst as well. already invested into a legal industry that will always be around, so if weed crashes then i got other avenues...but until then MAKE DUE WHILE THE SUN SHINES!!
also look at what happened in NJ...its not growers starting these new co-ops...its ex suits and ex businessmen who damn sure dont want your average johnny pot grower making some big business out of his little plot of land....they will find ways to make the regulations and the prices that will drive everyone else out of business....if you wanna go legal start saving money now!! your average pot grower is not gonna have the funds to go legal..
marijuana and grapes grow similar, but the taxes behind them wont be the same. marijuana is gonna have all sorts of special sin taxes and regulations. for grapes we just call the buyer, sell them, pay standard tax, and move along. i doubt they will make things that easy with marijuana....
but hey who knows...if it does get legalized im gonna rip up 5 acres ofa sav blanc vineyard and throw in hundreds of 200 gallon smartpots!!
marijuana and grapes grow similar, but the taxes behind them wont be the same. marijuana is gonna have all sorts of special sin taxes and regulations. for grapes we just call the buyer, sell them, pay standard tax, and move along. i doubt they will make things that easy with marijuana....
but hey who knows...if it does get legalized im gonna rip up 5 acres ofa sav blanc vineyard and throw in hundreds of 200 gallon smartpots!!
^you just have to be better than your competition. Suits will get hosed in this business when it is federally legal, and I will hose them. they have no clue how to make quality. Look at first growth French Wine. They have been doing it forever. no one on the planet can match their quality. American wine sucks because they are new at it relatively. Just like I couldn't just start day trading with no clue about what I'm doing and somehow bankrupt George Soros; Some suit couldn't just jump into growing, and bankrupt you. If anything they would have to hire you and since it is a new industry you can set your pay standard. The logistics on environment control, and nutrient chemistry alone on a large grow would boggle their freaking mind.
i believe the lack of comprehension is yours..
i understand the OP/OT perfectly.
you warn that the regulatory structure subsequent to legalization will be prohibitive of entry into the newly formed legal market.
given the cost prohibitive nature of said regulatory structure only a select few monied individuals/corporations will be able to enter the large scale cultivation industry.
i suppose that further the regulations will NOT be handled by the USDA as you suggest but by the ATFE(M) and controlled more like alcohol.
even with the structures put in place by the:
ATFE(M)
DEP
USDA
DWM
Ag boards
Zoning boards ect....
when viewed through the prism of current regulation these (granted oppressive) new regulatory schemes would be welcomed.
your pipe dream of a fully deregulated cannatopia is the classic mistake of allowing the pursuit of perfection to be the enemy of progress.
now go ahead with your obfuscation about how even mentioning current government involvement is irrelevant to a discussion of potential future regulation in a legalized situation VS. a decriminalized one.
^he next likely to come back with a bad argument based off one of these two tactics.
i believe the lack of comprehension is yours..
i understand the OP/OT perfectly.
you warn that the regulatory structure subsequent to legalization will be prohibitive of entry into the newly formed legal market.
given the cost prohibitive nature of said regulatory structure only a select few monied individuals/corporations will be able to enter the large scale cultivation industry.
i suppose that further the regulations will NOT be handled by the USDA as you suggest but by the ATFE(M) and controlled more like alcohol.
even with the structures put in place by the:
ATFE(M)
DEP
USDA
DWM
Ag boards
Zoning boards ect....
when viewed through the prism of current regulation these (granted oppressive) new regulatory schemes would be welcomed.
your pipe dream of a fully deregulated cannatopia is the classic mistake of allowing the pursuit of perfection to be the enemy of progress.
now go ahead with your obfuscation about how even mentioning current government involvement is irrelevant to a discussion of potential future regulation in a legalized situation VS. a decriminalized one.
You forgot the FDA.
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I feel you on the knowing how to do it better tip.
Bill Gates wasnt the best programmer, he just hired them
Hard to compete with their $ & influence
Bill Gates wasnt the best programmer, he just hired them
Hard to compete with their $ & influence
so you admit you are just a troll?
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decarboxylator
Can we move on now, please? This guy has trolled other threads to death. Let's just call it bored antagonism instead of trolling, more semantically correct.
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The idea of medical MJ isn't to KILL THE BLACK MARKET.
WTF?
The idea of medical MJ is that people who NEED MJ aren't prosecuted like the criminals profiting off the BLACK MARKET of MJ.
WTF?
The idea of medical MJ is that people who NEED MJ aren't prosecuted like the criminals profiting off the BLACK MARKET of MJ.
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see grape this is completely irrelevant to the OT of the thread..
I was responding to a post by someone on the previous page. Not a post on the first page.
Maybe you should apply to be a moderator here, dag?
it's probably as easy as putting some "hot rocks" in water to grow tomatoes right?
LMFAO!!!!
Actually, that's exactly how your indoor is grown.
Some technicians in a nuclear or coal power plant put hot rocks in water.
The water turns to steam.
The steam turns a turbine.
The electricity is delivered to your home via power lines.
You grow the finest indoor tomatoes you desire.
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Moderating might not be your thing. You've never tried it so you don't know anything about it.
Plus its a lot more work than you think.
And from what I hear you don't get paid.
Maybe you should stick to square watermelons?
