how would bruce lee fare in UFC?
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hazedandinfused
anyone denying the dominance of BJJ is a fool
it is what special forces / swat / police / all mma fighters train in
THERE IS A REASON
to most it seems like 2 sweaty dudes rolling around on the ground but whats really happining is more like a game of chess
and as for the topic im sure bruce lee (an avid mauy tai practictioner) would woop some serious ass in the ufc i think he would take a belt maybe welterweight
it is what special forces / swat / police / all mma fighters train in
THERE IS A REASON
to most it seems like 2 sweaty dudes rolling around on the ground but whats really happining is more like a game of chess
and as for the topic im sure bruce lee (an avid mauy tai practictioner) would woop some serious ass in the ufc i think he would take a belt maybe welterweight
mtnmama420
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What about a chimp trained in Jeet Kune Do? Or a gun toting sabretooth tiger? These are all compelling questions...
daddy fingaz
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hmmmm!!!?? 'mauy tai' hey, is this another of Bruce's fighting techniques he developed!!?? ? lol
mtnmama420 why dont u start a thread of your compelling questions!? lol
Possum
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bruce was an athletic guy and he trained hard based on the bio's that get played on TV. for his weight class i bet he could whip just about any one who posts on these boards.
like jackie chan - that guy is a physical speciman OR what's his name - the K1 fighter with the flying leg sweeps - i think he even has an MMA fight - kong lee or something????
tough guy who could whip lots of ass.
like jackie chan - that guy is a physical speciman OR what's his name - the K1 fighter with the flying leg sweeps - i think he even has an MMA fight - kong lee or something????
tough guy who could whip lots of ass.
Applesauce
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It is painfully obvious the majority of you are out of the loop with the level of current MMA. This isn't what it was even 5 years ago. These guys are now WORLD CLASS athletes. It is hard to say how Bruce Lee would fair in the stand up. However in MMA it is now essential to be WELL ROUNDED. If you think a Welterweight like GSP wouldn't be able to take Bruce Lee down with his WORLD CLASS wrestling and ground and pound him into oblivion... you're mistaken. That shouldn't even be a question. Bruce Lee weighed in at what? 135? That was his walk around weight. 135ers walk around at 150ish and cut down to 135 to begin with. This would place Bruce Lee at best as a flyweight.
daddy fingaz
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hmm id recon bruce was a pretty cut 135 and see no reason why he couldnt do well against those guys with a bit of cross training!?!
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Red Swan
I haven't read the whole thread, but I used to be way into practicing martial arts.
Here's the difference. The traditional fighting arts developed in battle with hundreds or thousands of warriors fighting multiple opponents. Horses, swords, spears etc. They were what you did when you dropped your weapon. JiuJitsu is a samurai art for this purpose.
Modern martial arts are developed in an artificial environment. Meaning that you fight on a mat or in a cage with rules. In this format, BJJ is the best, because it is developed for this artificial environment where people fight one on one.
Even in a street fight with multiple attackers, it would be risky to go the ground. But in the artificial environment of tournament fighting , you can't beat the grapplers.
So it's a matter of what you are practicing. Bruce Lee was a descendant of the battle warrior, and from that school of thought. But BJJ is for the modern context in which martial arts are taught.
Guns changed everything. I doubt Navy Seals can throw high kicks, but in a fight against multiple attackers, you can't beat modern fighting tactics.
SO...I think the question is flawed.
Traditional empty hand fighting arts preserve methods for battle situations that no longer exist.
Modern empty hand fighting arts use what works best in the environment in which they are practiced.
Here's the difference. The traditional fighting arts developed in battle with hundreds or thousands of warriors fighting multiple opponents. Horses, swords, spears etc. They were what you did when you dropped your weapon. JiuJitsu is a samurai art for this purpose.
Modern martial arts are developed in an artificial environment. Meaning that you fight on a mat or in a cage with rules. In this format, BJJ is the best, because it is developed for this artificial environment where people fight one on one.
Even in a street fight with multiple attackers, it would be risky to go the ground. But in the artificial environment of tournament fighting , you can't beat the grapplers.
So it's a matter of what you are practicing. Bruce Lee was a descendant of the battle warrior, and from that school of thought. But BJJ is for the modern context in which martial arts are taught.
Guns changed everything. I doubt Navy Seals can throw high kicks, but in a fight against multiple attackers, you can't beat modern fighting tactics.
SO...I think the question is flawed.
Traditional empty hand fighting arts preserve methods for battle situations that no longer exist.
Modern empty hand fighting arts use what works best in the environment in which they are practiced.
Applesauce
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Because Bruce Lee was small, lacked take down defense and lacked a solid ground game. Could he stand up with some of the lesser strikers in the UFC? Sure. Once the fight went to the ground it would be done and over in viscious fashion. This is against fellow 135ers. Let alone 145+ where he would simple get man handled as expected. I'm not sure what the issue is; why can't people simply say things change and be done with it. His level of dedication, athletic ability etc would surely make him a contender in modern MMA but to say he could take his limited skill set(meaning little MODERN cross training) and dominate BIGGER opponents is ludacris and is just the product of people wanting to hold him in legendary status for something he wasn't. The man was not a professional fighter.
If you notice even in the lightweight division KO's are not as common as the heavier divisions. This is for a reason. Bruce Lee is not going to get into the ring/cage and one inch punch someone into oblivion. If someone was losing the stand up game against him they would take him down. It's pretty clear cut and there isn't much to be ashamed of. It's like trying to compare a warrior from 200 years ago to a modern day Navy Seal. Would the potential be there for the old warrior to win with modern technology/skillsets? Sure. But to say he would stand a chance with his musket against someone sniping him down from 200 yards out... come on. EVOLUTION PEOPLE. MMA is ever evolving and even professional fighters who don't choose to continually evolve get left behind(Chuck Liddell anyone?).
Applesauce
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I will also toss in that before I started following MMA and training I was 100% Bruce Lee was the man and could destroy anything that he came up against. I thought he was able to jump fences and take on hundreds of men at once. I idolized him and I still think he was amazing.
You need to do a lil bit of Homework
Do U have any Idea the skills this man Possess
if U did i don't think U would say those things
Ya might also @ the same time research Who developed the "Push-Pull" Method currently in use by the SEALs for handgun shooting?
Mr Seagal
Show me 1 MMA fighter that's has fought for 24 straight hours?
Seagal did....To Be the FIRST westerner in Japan to Own a Do-Jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1_ok9zh3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyFlHhtWoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YziUvBqX-zI&feature=related
MMA is JUST a sport
Do U have any Idea the skills this man Possess
if U did i don't think U would say those things
Ya might also @ the same time research Who developed the "Push-Pull" Method currently in use by the SEALs for handgun shooting?
Mr Seagal
Show me 1 MMA fighter that's has fought for 24 straight hours?
Seagal did....To Be the FIRST westerner in Japan to Own a Do-Jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1_ok9zh3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyFlHhtWoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YziUvBqX-zI&feature=related
MMA is JUST a sport
Kizzattack
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Seagal is a pansy. I very much doubt he'd stand much of a chance against even the grandparents of people competing in UFC.
Seagal is a complete and utter f**king joke, and I still say my mom could kick his ass easy.
He was the biggest self invented hack to ever come down the hollywood martial arts movie line. Total f**king clown
Search Steven seagal vs Gene Labell, an old man at the time Judo practitioner Gene Labell choked out SS on the set of under seige to the point where seagal passed out and pissed himself.
Not to mention the other search you can do SS vs the Mob where he was shook down and extorted by two fat old mobsters for something like $80'000
And I thought he beat up the whole mob in his movie one time?
He was the biggest self invented hack to ever come down the hollywood martial arts movie line. Total f**king clown
Search Steven seagal vs Gene Labell, an old man at the time Judo practitioner Gene Labell choked out SS on the set of under seige to the point where seagal passed out and pissed himself.
Not to mention the other search you can do SS vs the Mob where he was shook down and extorted by two fat old mobsters for something like $80'000
And I thought he beat up the whole mob in his movie one time?
Dude those tapes are a joke, other people he trains with running up sticking there arms out for him to grab and then tossing themselves to the floor, lol.
Here's another tape of a guy throwing a large number of students around with his "master" skills, and then he mixes it up with someone who is not part of the "act" and gets his ass busted fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDa...FA9E80F3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32
Here's another tape of a guy throwing a large number of students around with his "master" skills, and then he mixes it up with someone who is not part of the "act" and gets his ass busted fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDa...FA9E80F3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32
Kizzattack
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Here's a funny story about Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell (taken from Gene Lebell's website):
Gene Lebell is actually pretty lethal. Check this video out. He demonstrates how to perform a sleeper hold, and actually makes a guy pass out: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1810777/gene_lebell_how_to_sleeper_hold/
Here he is now, you know why he wasn't the star of the movies? Because he's goofy looking as hell.
Do you know why he is on the set of all the martial arts movies?
Because he is the real thing, and they need his technical expertise, and help with coordinating the fight scenes.
Do you know why he is on the set of all the martial arts movies?
Because he is the real thing, and they need his technical expertise, and help with coordinating the fight scenes.
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I was hanging out with a Tibetan monk a few years back. We went to the movies and he told me Steven Seagall had asked him to come to LA to live with him and give teachings .
I told him I had read some not so nice things about the guy, but he shrugged it off. Two weeks later he was back and I asked what was up and he said SS was a terrible buddhist.
Cocaine, anger etc. When he saw that he was not walking the path, he split.
Just because you are a great martial artist, doesn't mean you are a great person.
I told him I had read some not so nice things about the guy, but he shrugged it off. Two weeks later he was back and I asked what was up and he said SS was a terrible buddhist.
Cocaine, anger etc. When he saw that he was not walking the path, he split.
Just because you are a great martial artist, doesn't mean you are a great person.
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