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Here It Comes... GMO Cannabis!

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Holy fuck.
I have this future vision where I'm growing my own crops of food on small scale. I guess I better start stocking up on seeds soon, and freeze them for later.

It's about time we make a list and some estimates what the big industries(and the money/people behind it) have done in damage to mankind.
-investing in oil instead of renewable resources already at hand
-gun manufacturing, and pushing them all over the world
-nuclear energy, building crappy plants and trading uranium with any country
-pharmaceuticals, probably only knowing half of it
-wall street's effect on economies
etc..
I'm pretty damn sure near every problem the world has today is backtraceable to a few people that just wanted to get more power into their greedy hands. Not that all those effects were on purpose but all are direct results of choosing insta-money/power options instead of anything near durable that may have yielded less in the short term.

Well you might have a problem growing anything over $1000.00 of organic goods in your OWN property ..Our own Gov.seems to have a BIG problem with ppl growing their own food or anything over $1000.00.Don't grow it in your front lawn ffs. Don't grow too much of it and don't give it away to your neighbours as this would be against our Govs RULES and REGULATIONS!!.. They would rather in a reccession with no food for the masses see ornamental plants everywhere instead of food gardens for the masses!
As you could see we would have been a smarter race of ppl if we had planted fruit tree's instead of ornamental trees everywhere. But the stores that sell this shit to us have a hard time giving that up and so does the Gov and their taxes . Collect your heirloom seeds and grow your own food!! and give those seeds away!!!:woohoo:headband 707
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Why We Must Ban GM Cannabis

Why We Must Ban GM Cannabis

Why We Must Ban GM Cannabis

Friday, 21 October 2011 12:26

By David Malmo-Levine

For those who pay attention to the history of medicine, it is clear that cannabis has been one of the major raw materials - if not THE major raw material - and one of the major medicines - if not THE major medicine - of humanity.

And for those who pay attention to the history of cannabis economics, it is clear that throughout human history there has always been a small minority of people who attempt to justify exclusive distribution rights of this raw material and medicine.

The latest version of this attempt is genetically modified cannabis. “Genetic modification” - also called “GM," "genetically modified organisms," “GMO” and "transgenic" - is a process by which genes from one living thing are spliced together with another, in a manner that nature would not allow to occur on its own – as opposed to “breeding," which is speeding up a natural selection process with human selection but still limited to what could possibly happen over time in nature.

There is no consensus in the scientific community that genetically modifying a plant helps farmers increase their yield in any way or that GM crops are safe for human consumption or environmentally friendly or pose no threat to global food security, but nearly everyone agrees that it does allow a monopoly on the selling of that particular seed, allows the producers to justify a patent, and allows those who hold the patent to sue those who grow the plants without paying for the seeds - even if the GM pollen drifted onto the field of the farmer in question.

Up here in Canada we’ve seen how a farmer’s rights to collect and replant their own seed has been totally destroyed by the courts, who sided with Monsanto. Take the highly publicized case or Percy Schmeiser, a farmer from Bruno, Saskatchewan who specializes in breeding and growing canola. He became an international symbol and spokesperson for independent farmers' rights and the regulation of transgenic crops during his protracted legal battle with Monsanto Company. He was the subject of the 1999 film, David Versus Monsanto.
In 1997, Monsanto's genetically modified Roundup Ready Canola plants were found in Schmeiser's field. Before planting his 1998 crop, Schmeiser was informed that Monsanto believed he had grown Roundup Ready canola in 1997. In the summer of 1998, the canola in Schmeiser's fields was found to be Roundup Ready canola. Monsanto subsequenty sued Schmeiser for patent infringement. Ultimately, a Supreme Court 5-4 ruling found in favor of Monsanto - that their patent was valid and there was infringement. The publicity around the case focused on whether Monsanto would be held responsible for “genetic engineering crop contamination." This issue was, not considered by the courts. The patent infringement finding was based solely on the determination that Schmeiser had recognized the cross-contamination, and knowingly went on to collect the crossbred seed, then replant and harvest it the next year. No punitive damages or the costs of the technology use fee were awarded to Monsanto, as the Supreme Court also ruled 9-0 in Schmeiser's favor that his profits were exactly the same with or without the presence of the Roundup Ready Canola.”

Schmeiser said of his battle with Monsanto: "Farmers should be concerned about this judgment as they now may lose their ability to continue with this practice. I believe that this ruling is an injustice and Parliament must act to ensure that farmers' rights are protected. The playing field between farmer rights and the bio-tech companies rights has been tilted towards the companies with this decision."

Monsanto introduced GM crops to the United States back in 1996. The largest share by far of the GMO crops planted globally are owned by Monsanto, which holds at least 70% market share for most major GM crop seeds.

The first mention of the possibility of cannabis being genetically modified I could find was cited in a document leaked to Cannabis Culture back in 2000, which read in part: "Cannabis seeds from Monsanto are almost definitely genetically engineered. Genetically engineered plants can be patented, and it is in Monsanto's best interest to hold a patent on any seed they sell. Seed patents ensure that companies like Monsanto can continue to profit from seeds from year to year, as farmers are legally bound to buy patented seeds from the patent holder rather than simply store them from the last year's crop.”

The Repeal Cannabis Prohibition Act of 2012 does not ban GM cannabis, but rather one of its stated goals is to “make cannabis available for scientific, medical, industrial,and research purposes."

The Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Act of 2012 (RMLW) will ban GM cannabis completely. Read the wording closely and see if you can find any wiggle room that would allow any corporation to grow GM cannabis:

“Experimentation, development, research, testing, cultivation, sales or possession of genetically-modified (GMO) marijuana, hemp and its seeds shall be banned throughout the state of California.”

Once it is in place, it will take another initiative to "unban" GM cannabis in California, and such an “unbanning” would be unlikely to appeal to voters.

It is vitally important that RMLW passes to: 1) prevent Monsanto from taking over the cannabis industry in the same way they’ve taken over many other crops (and perhaps hold the human race hostage by controlling the entire food supply); 2) maintain the genetic integrity of the plant; 3) protect the cannabis farmer from artificial dependence (not to mention the destruction of their livelihood); 4) prevent a “Roundup Ready” version of cannabis being developed that will allow even more massive amounts of herbicides to kill the soil microbes and poison the consumers of hemp seed; 5) increase the quality and the yield of cannabis products, not least of which being the medicinal constituents; and 6) set a good example for other U.S. states and other countries to follow.

For those who would like to learn more about genetic modification, I suggest checking out the films, The World According to Monsanto and The Corporation - it's as a good crash-course introduction about GM. When watching the GM segments of each film, try and picture what would happen to the cannabis farmer and the cannabis consumer if it was them - and not the soy or corn or rice farmer or consumer - suffering from the scourge of GM.
 
M

MrSterling

Headband, you're a fucking idiot and your tin-foil hat conspiracy-nut misinformation only lowers the level of discourse the rest of us are trying to have here in reality; and I say that as a farmer raising all my own food. I try not to say anything unless I have something nice to say, but you are the loudest idiot on these forums. I'm sorry, but the stuff you post is borderline spam and belongs over in the "Toker's Den", not the cannabis botany forum.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
MonsantoGovernment.jpg


Keep on dreaming :)
 

sprinkl

Member
Veteran
That has to be one of the most worrying images I've seen on the internet in a looong time, including 2girls1cup and other messed up shit.
 

Stranger

Member
Next year growing food on my front yard, let see what happens :)

No homeowners association here. Got my license for chickens too! ( not in front yard ;) )

Grow Food not Lawns!
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Headband, you're a fucking idiot and your tin-foil hat conspiracy-nut misinformation only lowers the level of discourse the rest of us are trying to have here in reality; and I say that as a farmer raising all my own food. I try not to say anything unless I have something nice to say, but you are the loudest idiot on these forums. I'm sorry, but the stuff you post is borderline spam and belongs over in the "Toker's Den", not the cannabis botany forum.

Mr Sterling is this because of the other post where I called you an asshole??? lol..Your still an asshole lol...
But keep talking it's fun if nothing else...
You bring up these fucked up comments then you think everyone is going to just listen to this shit ..Bra your still a tool imvho headband 707:laughing:

Now I'm going to take my tin foil hat and have some real communications with aliens LOL
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
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Keep on dreaming :)

Yeah I have a bunch of sites that state that only the USA is still into Monsantos which is very strange if you ask me.
Why would all other countries ban it except the US?
I also hear somthing very ,very disturbing about Monsantos. I heard that if you plant Monsantos in your field that you will not be able to plant anything again for 10 years WTF is that?
If this is even half truths then WTF are they doing and why have they not been stopped! Stay safe headband 707:)
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Next year growing food on my front yard, let see what happens :)

No homeowners association here. Got my license for chickens too! ( not in front yard ;) )

Grow Food not Lawns!

Yeah this is one of the crazier thing I have heard from out Gov. They had a community garden in Toronto and it was almost finnished when the city came in and dug the whole thing up and didn't give any of the food to the homeless .Instead they mowed it down.. Then all over Canada they are telling ppl not to plant food crops in their front lawn or the city will stop you WTF is that? You buy your house you should be able to plant whatever you want without any city stepping in. I do hate when they tell you what to do especailly when it comes to you looking after yourself and others. Good luck and I hope it all works out for you headband 707:)
 

Nunsacred

Active member
If you're going to get stressed about GMO that's your business
but seriously, Cannabis?

If you made a list
of all the popular plant species that are relatively safely preserved in private collections, Cannabis is pretty near the top.

So for that reason alone please take all anti-GMO rants to a farmer's forum.
Find out from them which crop is genuinely most at risk from poorly thought-out contamination!
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
If you're going to get stressed about GMO that's your business
but seriously, Cannabis?

If you made a list
of all the popular plant species that are relatively safely preserved in private collections, Cannabis is pretty near the top.

So for that reason alone please take all anti-GMO rants to a farmer's forum.
Find out from them which crop is genuinely most at risk from poorly thought-out contamination!

Anti GMO rant is it lol .. I guess your right so why would you defend it?
I'm always leary of ppl that defend Monsantos's practises
because this was the same type of response they got when they told ppl that they have been eating GMO foods for years and look at where that has gotten them lol.. As far as the private collections of cannabis lol how does this help me?...Not one damn thing I can do about this except to say I'm against it... But hey that's just me lol headband 707
 

Nunsacred

Active member
Headband, you're a fucking idiot and your tin-foil hat conspiracy-nut misinformation only lowers the level of discourse the rest of us are trying to have here ......
...the stuff you post is borderline spam
Spot on

it's anti-establishment crap and forums are best without it.

Anyone who says lol more than twice in a post is a fool.
Anyone who says their own opinion is 'humble' is untrustworthy.
Anyone who bitches about politics is a bore.
Anyone who posts more than twice consecutively isn't communicating.

Headband is such an extreme example of all 4 wrong-nuts
that I think it's time for the magic remote control
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
Spot on

it's anti-establishment crap and forums are best without it.

Anyone who says lol more than twice in a post is a fool.
Anyone who says their own opinion is 'humble' is untrustworthy.
Anyone who bitches about politics is a bore.
Anyone who posts more than twice consecutively isn't communicating.

Headband is such an extreme example of all 4 wrong-nuts
that I think it's time for the magic remote control


Wow lol anyone who posts more then twice is a fool LOL.. Bra your really hurting my feeling here LOL..Cause I really care what YOU think ... lol .. no really :moon:I want you to fill your plate everyday with GMO foods ,that's everyday!
I don't think I have ever put anyone on ignore yet but you might be the first cause you sound like such a nice fun guy!!!
I'm glad you know me so well because this untrusutworthy fool that put more then one post on a thread has just used my remote to click you off LOL:headbange
headband 707
 
T

The Batman

Spot on

it's anti-establishment crap and forums are best without it.

Anyone who says lol more than twice in a post is a fool.
Anyone who says their own opinion is 'humble' is untrustworthy.
Anyone who bitches about politics is a bore.
Anyone who posts more than twice consecutively isn't communicating.

Headband is such an extreme example of all 4 wrong-nuts
that I think it's time for the magic remote control


you suck and you should open your own forum with your wonderful rules.

anti-establishment is part of our cannabis comunity, worldwide, open your eyes.

all GM plants are shit and i will gladly reap any plants or field on my area.
 

Sam_Skunkman

"RESIN BREEDER"
Moderator
Veteran
still waiting

still waiting

Headband 707,
After all your posts on GM Cannabis I am still waiting for the list of GM varieties, where grown, and grown by whom?

You still have not listed a single one!

I myself have never done GM work of any kind I do not believe in GM crops. I have nothing against using GM studies to understand the Cannabis genome better and then use Classical breeding methods to accomplish your goals.
I understand why people want to believe that the sky is falling, but do not like it when I ask them where are the pieces that fell?
The sky is not falling, there is no GM Cannabis, regardless how many "articles" you repost that are not scientific or peer reviewed, they are just people shouting their fears.
If you look at the authors of the articles on GM Cannabis none are serious scientists, why is that?

-SamS
 

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