Freedom 45! 10x12x8 Evolving Vert Retirement Plan!

[bobblehead]

Where`s Bobbles when I need him.....anyways....

I'm building the room everyone else dreams of having...



RH% is important because all cellular activity involves water... Respiratory gases and nutrients are broken down and transported with water. If you're losing water to transpiration, then you're losing potential cellular activity for vegetative growth and flower production, cause instead the energy is diverted to draw up more water... and then with the water comes nutrients, or the nutrients get left behind in the medium... either way, you end up with pH and nutrient uptake issues...

So with all that in a nutshell... I've upgraded to whole house humidifiers to keep humidity up. Ultra sonic foggers are good for smaller applications, but I really need something that can keep up with my ventilation.

I run my humidity at 70% weeks 1-5, then drop it to 55% till chop. I find that as long as RH% doesn't go over 60%, I'm good... Unless I get lazy and I don't chop of dying/decaying fan leaves... That's just throwing good bud away with laziness. It helps to set the dehuey lower than the desired humidity... b/c the air by the sensor might be more dry than the air in your room when all of your plants are respiring/transpiring and releasing moisture into the air...

 

[megayields]

If you treat with Eagle 20 It is said that you won't get PM. Don't know as I have not been through a cycle with Eagle 20 yet.

I have done a few runs with Eagle 20 very good stuff.....but in my area we have very high RH in the winter....( I live in a rain forest).....Eagle 20 is good BUT we still have to be very vigilant and watch carefully for PM in the late flower stage but that situation may be unique to my coastal climate.

 

[mrheadie]

the borg still getting at your girls ar? hate them little chits! battled them on more than 1 occasion and at one point almost gave up and shut down. between that and pm, i had to get things under control or it was a waist of time and energy. after allot of research here, i found a couple people recomending eagle 20 and floramite. eagle 20 and floramite have given me a bug and disease free garden (except the issues we had while i was recovering from surgery and my boy slacked). even though i'm very vigilant on my conditions, problems can always occur so i still hit every cut that comes off my ez with both, plus neem and azamax and the girls are always looking good and bug and disease free. preventive maintence for me = peace of mind. those ba$t@rd$ can really get you down. peace
headie

 

[Arminius]

the borg still getting at your girls ar? hate them little chits! battled them on more than 1 occasion and at one point almost gave up and shut down. between that and pm, i had to get things under control or it was a waist of time and energy. after allot of research here, i found a couple people recomending eagle 20 and floramite. eagle 20 and floramite have given me a bug and disease free garden (except the issues we had while i was recovering from surgery and my boy slacked). even though i'm very vigilant on my conditions, problems can always occur so i still hit every cut that comes off my ez with both, plus neem and azamax and the girls are always looking good and bug and disease free. preventive maintence for me = peace of mind. those ba$t@rd$ can really get you down. peace
headie

Hey Headie,
I used the last of my Mitey Wash the other day and I haven't noticed any new light spots on the leaves, which was the way I realized they were there in the first place.
I will be defoliating the old growth tonight and will do a thorough inspection with my scope.
I have some neem oil and insecticide soap for a wetting agent, but I am unsure on the mixture rates. I should be able to figure that out, and hit them with that once the defoliation is done for good measure.
I am lacking on updates and responses, but will be making a lot of progress and updates after today.
Happy mini Friday everyone!

 

[Arminius]

I have done a few runs with Eagle 20 very good stuff.....but in my area we have very high RH in the winter....( I live in a rain forest).....Eagle 20 is good BUT we still have to be very vigilant and watch carefully for PM in the late flower stage but that situation may be unique to my coastal climate.

Speaking if our screwy coastal climate, my damn humidity has dropped to the 20s... Time to get that Mh out of the veg room, and put in moret5s...

 

[Arminius]

I'm building the room everyone else dreams of having...



RH% is important because all cellular activity involves water... Respiratory gases and nutrients are broken down and transported with water. If you're losing water to transpiration, then you're losing potential cellular activity for vegetative growth and flower production, cause instead the energy is diverted to draw up more water... and then with the water comes nutrients, or the nutrients get left behind in the medium... either way, you end up with pH and nutrient uptake issues...

So with all that in a nutshell... I've upgraded to whole house humidifiers to keep humidity up. Ultra sonic foggers are good for smaller applications, but I really need something that can keep up with my ventilation.

I run my humidity at 70% weeks 1-5, then drop it to 55% till chop. I find that as long as RH% doesn't go over 60%, I'm good... Unless I get lazy and I don't chop of dying/decaying fan leaves... That's just throwing good bud away with laziness. It helps to set the dehuey lower than the desired humidity... b/c the air by the sensor might be more dry than the air in your room when all of your plants are respiring/transpiring and releasing moisture into the air...

Thanks Bobble!
I just picked up a dehumidifier, as well as a humidifier today. I am a perfectionist and am determined to have the perfect room!

 

[Arminius]

Where`s Bobbles when I need him.....anyways....the reason higher RH works for explosive veg foliage and root growth all the way through end of stretch can be best explained by googling "VPD"/Vapor Pressure Deficit/sp ?........

I was lucky where I lived cuz crazy ass RH was free , but Krusty preached 70% all the way through end of cycle cuz he was in Canada but everyone else was gettin PM and molds/budrot so he then said as low as yas can drop RH till harvey cuz big plants drink/eat so much juice in fast hydro setup on a daily basis that RH stays high......so.....

IOW....after stretch as low as possible to prevent airborne pathogens from takin over yer shit till chop.....Major air exchange always kept my ass safe .........

Good luck Arm....Holler if I can help...


Peace....DHF.............

Thanks for stopping by DHF! I just picked up some equipment today and hopefully I can achieve dialed status...
I am aiming for 2x exchange per minute, is there a point of diminishing returns? Is 3x worth it?
Thanks again!

 

[Arminius]

Equipment Update!

Equipment Update!

I went over to San Jose to pick up a 4in1 a/c, dehumidifier, heater, and "ionizer", and ended up with a couple extra goodies...
Picked up a 6" inline fan, a digital humidifier, and a 600w switchable dual ballast that runs two lights as well. All for $340.
The dehumidifier is rated for 60 pints per day, the a/c is 12k BTU, and the heater is 11k BTU. Now I need to read the manual and see if I can do more than one function at once, or if there is a controller smart enough to use functions as needed...
Also attached is what I hope to be my configuration for my weed donuts. With 6 buckets per site, and 1800w each, I can fit at least 3, maybe 4 in my room. I originally planned on a 600 down low, with a 1000w up top, but running sativas, I think I can get a better yield and canopy coverage if I run three 600s /wave Bobble!...

 

[Arminius]

Veg/Clone Room Update

Veg/Clone Room Update

Well today is day 14 since I put the USD cuts in my cloner, and I thought I was going to lose my first clone, but low and behold, the fucker popped a root from the node stuck inside the collar!

The other USD clones are coming along nicely, and I should be able to transplant a couple of them next week sometime.

I trimmed off all the "fucky" looking leaves from the Goosh tonight. They are doing very well also, I noticed my first sets of 7 bladed leaves.

My ECSD mum is looking pretty nice also!

I will be pushing hard to put the top 6 into my flower room sometime next week. Luckily, the rains over the next 7-10 days will give me some much needed time off work to finish up the room.

 

[mrheadie]

good score on the goodies bro. as far as the mixture rate with the neem, i run about 1tsp per quart with a few drops of dawn dish soap for a spreader. my bro just has a bad day with neem and hurt his crop bad. he's been dealing with mites for about a year and cant completely get rid of them. he will not let me spray his girls with floramite and only uses neem (he's 100% organic). he came over the other day to grab some cuts and told me he hit them with a 3x dose and he thinks it actually clogged the pores and the plant couldnt breath. he had to wash them all down and he said they the were starting to come back but some damage was already done (hence the reason he was coming for cuts). stay with the recomended dose and remember to switch up your mite killing method (think of it as war and attack from air, land, and sea). my bro was laughing at me last year after i beat the borg and was still treating everything weekly with different treatments, but like i said bro, peace of mind is everything to me.
peace
headie

 

[megayields]

I am tracking down a Drizaire 110 as I type...if I can score it for the price.....WAHOO no more RH issues and a LOT less power usage.

 

[mrheadie]

I am tracking down a Drizaire 110 as I type...if I can score it for the price.....WAHOO no more RH issues and a LOT less power usage.

is that a fogger/humidifier mega?

 

[Shcrews]

Hey Headie,
I used the last of my Mitey Wash the other day and I haven't noticed any new light spots on the leaves, which was the way I realized they were there in the first place.
I will be defoliating the old growth tonight and will do a thorough inspection with my scope.
I have some neem oil and insecticide soap for a wetting agent, but I am unsure on the mixture rates. I should be able to figure that out, and hit them with that once the defoliation is done for good measure.
I am lacking on updates and responses, but will be making a lot of progress and updates after today.
Happy mini Friday everyone!

ever use pyrethrum? better than floramite , azamax, or neem IMO

Take Down is available at some local stores, super cheap.. i havent had mite problems in years

 

[Arminius]

ever use pyrethrum? better than floramite , azamax, or neem IMO

Take Down is available at some local stores, super cheap.. i havent had mite problems in years

This is the first time dealing with the Borg, and my budget is tight, so I am trying to use what I have for now. I know they have pyrethrum bombs, but I didn't want to do that unless needed. I was going to do floramite, but that toxic crap is pretty pricey. Is there pyrethrum available in forms other than a bomb? I will look into Take Down if the neem/soap doesn't finish them off...
Thanks Shcrews!

 

[Shcrews]

BombS are a waste of money. Take down is concentrated pyrethrum in canola oil. A $15 bottle lasts years

It is not preventative, but if those mites show up it will make them sorry they did. Plus its safe to spray on buds up to a few dAys before harvest


Its literally the only pest control i use.

 

[Arminius]

Awesome, thanks bro!

 

[Ichabod Crane]

If you want to use a pyretheumminmnum bomb check out a flea and tick bomb as it may be cheaper and you can get them made with that long word. And if you have cats because of bubbles cat food you can get rid of the fleas and ticks too.

 

[megayields]

is that a fogger/humidifier mega?

Commercial Grade DE-humidifier...I live in a rain forest and rainy season is coming, in fact we got 1/8" in last night.

 

[megayields]

Arminus - hey I'm back in town we need to hook up with Schrews and "shoot the shit"....

 

[Arminius]

Arminus - hey I'm back in town we need to hook up with Schrews and "shoot the shit"....

After noon tomorrow I am free, I need to run out to BC for a minute, but I will see if we can make it happen.