it`s probbly not even a male,,,,,,it will be a monoecious specimine
Lots of breeders make hybrids because they don't want others to have there breeding plant stock
i agree rick, as ive changed my mind bout fem seeds. as long as proper stress test are done. i want to kno what yall think bout seeds made from a male the showed female flowers?
Explain to me concisely how the Reg seeds have more potential.
There is a y so you can go either way,
Hempy, you are so fucking clueless it isn't even a funny issue anymore. I am certain you are at a serious mental disadvantage, so I will just leave it at that.
Angel4us, these people are doing their best to keep our community ignorant as hell. It sickens me for so many of our community to spend so much time learning the secrets of our favorite sport, only to encounter these insolent bastards that have no respect for the plant or their fellow man. Oh sure, they will take offense to that right away and show you all the great buds they have grown...means less than shit. Anyone can grow fantastic buds, even clueless assholes.
These idiots keep the same lame arguments going without any backup to speak of at all. What they do bring, they don't even have the mental capacity to even comprehend.
Not to mention they have no idea of how to conduct themselves.
Oh yeah, they will all point at me and what I have to say as a show of how not to act..but if you read closely with all my stuff you will find that it just isn't true. I never attack people like these lousy fucks do. I only respond to the stupid shit that they throw out.
Many of them are kids that only need you to challenge them, and they feel you are the enemy and should be destroyed. They have few fucking clues as well, but I credit much of that to them just being young and stupid.
I knew as soon as I saw your title that controversy would ensue, and I knew it would be the same ignorant fucks that would muck up the place, as they always seem to want.
See, if the issue is all off track and into the nasty, then the real issue gets ignored. And like they do just about every thread they get into, it will be edited to a point that you won't really know why the whole thing got shut down.
And then folks like Hempy will sloth their way back into one of these same type threads down the road, and start talking about how nasty folks like me are. But of course a larger percentage of the nasty shit they threw around will be gone from the previous editing.
It's one of the reasons I advocate NO editing of any sort at any time. It keep fucks like Hempy from throwing more of his lies around, since we can actually go back and see his venomous ignorance.
The bottom line is that folks like Hempy and staggarlee have no fucking idea what the whole thing is really all about, and neither of them should be listened to on this topic, or any topic that is even in the vicinity of it.
I can't say they are clueless on other areas of our sport, but hey...even a blind hog will find a root now and again. As far as I have seen, both of them..including Hempy, know squat about anything of substance. I sure wouldn't follow any of Hempy's growing suggestions as he is all fucked up there as well. Just read his stuff. But like I said, a blind hog...
Unleashing? You fucking bet I am!
I am tired of the put downs and insults from the likes of these toss monkeys. Clueless fucking toss monkeys.
There is a y so you can go either way,
has anyone touched upon the fact that different feminized seeds are made with different methods some causing more hermies in the future than others? theres overflowering, that silver stuff, theres gibberellic acid.. um lots of others too so really its a much broader question depending on how the fems came about. although i think its pretty widespread knowledge that a feminized seed will have less vigor so for that reason probably good idea to stay away from breeding with it.
cannaboy is chatting about male plants here Silence... i.e. without a male how you gonna make more male seeds man??? :jont:
Feminized genetics are great in the short term.. but not something real plant line breeders are aiming for /working towards. (check out Shantibaba ,, he's most exemplary,, and easy to digest)
I don't need to select males to make fantastic seeds that produce fantastic plants. And YOU are the biggest tool in this discussion. Trust that.You can talk all you like but from were i sit this tool is only useful for people that are fucken lazy that don't want to put the effort into real breeding that don't want to select males and do it as it was meant to be done.
You can talk all you like but from were i sit this tool is only useful for people that are fucken lazy that don't want to put the effort into real breeding that don't want to select males and do it as it was meant to be done.
i would've thought using females only for breeding is a more advanced practice. for one it's harder than just using F/M matings IMO and also you can look directly at the phenotypes of each plant and thus selection is made easier instead of having to look at males trying to select the best ones that will give you the best females, this is a solid technique but because you're choosing traits the male shows that indirectly correlate to different traits in any subsequent female offspring, it's less accurate than looking directly at the phenos of the two females you're going to cross.... i'd say both systems are fine, but using females only, and doing it right, is going to save you a lot of time as a breeder in the long run.
See thats just it for me with these use male theories, how many are reversing the male etc etc, how many select thru many say 50 to 100 males? how many do alot of progeny testing? or how many just piss in the wind and hope for the best? I reckon more go for the latter.
Selfing and feminizing are just tools in the breeders toolbox.
Their worth is well understood and documented. No need for arguing with naysayers, other than it isn't fair to new and impressionable growers to have to sort through the endless chant of bullshit that comes from these puffy muffin knownuthin's. SO as long as they continue to bring unfounded hogshit to the table, it will be met with challenges.
I challenge anyone to provide evidence of there being a genetic difference in a female plant that was produced from a fem forcing incross, and it's sibling sister produced by a M/F incross. Provide evidence that the two are distinguishable in the lab.
See, if you could find a difference it would be the key to showing how a forcing is inferior, and how it's progeny are not up to par with regular bred plants.
And ? you grow for males do you?