Cinderella 99 The Come Back

[~star~crash~]

With so many good strains out, why chase down a ghost from 17 years ago. I also ran the originals from the Bro's back in the day. Sure it was good. Why be so fixated on one strain when there's so many others that offer a cereberal experience on par or better. Lots of choices nowadays. Just saying.

no doubt... i hear what you're saying

for me , i'm just chasing fond personal memories of my fav strain hope she delivers... peace

 

[Facelesdoll]

With so many good strains out, why chase down a ghost from 17 years ago. I also ran the originals from the Bro's back in the day. Sure it was good. Why be so fixated on one strain when there's so many others that offer a cereberal experience on par or better. Lots of choices nowadays. Just saying.[/

it's not always about what we think is better or faster or stronger. for some of us it's terpine a flavor a smell the height it grows the height of flowers the consistency and so on. Those with no sentimentality don't understand how important it is in keeping this hobby alive. what would we do without haze or white widow or skunk for that matter.

 

[redlaser]

There are lots of choices these days and they all kind of have their place. I like to have a variety around most of the time.

C99 for me has a very clear sativa buzz that is noticeable even after smoking other types of cannabis. 95% of the time it is my first choice to smoke, to me it is a more functional smoke because of the clear buzz.

I've grown several F1 and F2 versions of C99, and only have an f2 to smoke now that doesn't taste that good, kind of an odd medicine smell like maybe camphor/ menthol. Still reach for camphor/menthol cindy99 first, even though I don't like that taste, the effects are superior in a lot of ways to anything else I've ever tried in 35+ years of smoking.

 

[LostTribe]

There are lots of choices these days and they all kind of have their place. I like to have a variety around most of the time.

C99 for me has a very clear sativa buzz that is noticeable even after smoking other types of cannabis. 95% of the time it is my first choice to smoke, to me it is a more functional smoke because of the clear buzz.

I've grown several F1 and F2 versions of C99, and only have an f2 to smoke now that doesn't taste that good, kind of an odd medicine smell like maybe camphor/ menthol. Still reach for camphor/menthol cindy99 first, even though I don't like that taste, the effects are superior in a lot of ways to anything else I've ever tried in 35+ years of smoking.

I too have that camphor sort of old tobacco smell is the most recent f2's and f3's it maintains the intense motivational high for me but the taste leaves a lot to be desired so that is something that has made me continue searching....

Happy Holidaze!
LT

 

[~star~crash~]

There are lots of choices these days and they all kind of have their place. I like to have a variety around most of the time.

C99 for me has a very clear sativa buzz that is noticeable even after smoking other types of cannabis. 95% of the time it is my first choice to smoke, to me it is a more functional smoke because of the clear buzz.

I've grown several F1 and F2 versions of C99, and only have an f2 to smoke now that doesn't taste that good, kind of an odd medicine smell like maybe camphor/ menthol. Still reach for camphor/menthol cindy99 first, even though I don't like that taste, the effects are superior in a lot of ways to anything else I've ever tried in 35+ years of smoking.

 

[LostTribe]

May go from 400 to 600w hps tomorrow....I got my replacement for the digital that went out back so might go ahead and swap it in there for the finish.

On another note I was cleaning my aerocloner the other day and totally forgot to plug it back in when I was finished so I lost my face trippin Zamaldelica.....dough!

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

That sux

 

[LostTribe]

I'm over it....was the first female I got out of 2 popped so gotta be another nice one in the 12 pack...

 

[LostTribe]

Smells are changing on me on these 2 and they just started bulking up so probably 3 weeks plus to the finish line. They are getting sweeter by the day so that is good news because I have enough grapefruit/camphor C99 to last me several lifetimes and then some.....

Getting ready to toss the other 2 into bloom soon too along with another C99 for comparison. Will update pics soon.

 

[~star~crash~]

Smells are changing on me on these 2 and they just started bulking up so probably 3 weeks plus to the finish line. They are getting sweeter by the day so that is good news because I have enough grapefruit/camphor C99 to last me several lifetimes and then some.....

Getting ready to toss the other 2 into bloom soon too along with another C99 for comparison. Will update pics soon.

good morning LT! hey U R far enough along now?..can U tell what's going on? are the flowers and smells invoking memories from the original? i'm heavily invested in C99 right now& Mr Soul assured me they would be identical to the 1999 version... i'm praying...

 

[DreadedFarmer]

Just listened to MrSouls interview on The Pot Cast and he seems pretty confident the 1999 versions are present. Can't wait to find out for sure.

 

[LostTribe]

Day 38 today and they are coming along nicely with lots of crystal production. I wish I had a better lens for my camera so I could get some close ups. The heavier one is bulking up already and has about 40% red hairs at this point. The other less dense girl seems stickier and bright orange hairs. Both have similar nice rotten fruit smells going on at this point. The other 2 are vegging nicely and it wont be long until I bloom them too. My males are in reveg.

I'll try to get some quality pics up tomorrow if I get time when the lights are on.

Cheers
LT

 

[LostTribe]

I didn't get time today for pics but will soon. Some had inquired as to the current make up of C99.

The Princess Clone x a Cinderella 99 male from Original P.94 seed stock to be precis The P.94 generation was the same generation of the male used in the final release of C99 before they went on hiatus. So a different male from the same generation of seed stock as was used in the current release.

Originally, 2001, they did release a later generation P.97, however results were not as nice so they had reverted back to the Princess x P.94 prior to shutting down.

Think I will include this from Mr Soul taken from CW

Cinderella Story
« on: June 24, 2000, 12:29 am »
I've been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the "Cinderella Story", so here it is:

In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ "Sensi Smile" coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn't expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call "Princess".

Therefore Princess' mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.

I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe'Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.

The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is "Cinderella 99", a cubed version of Princess.

The name "Cinderella" was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It's also VERY similar to the story of the "Morgan Horse"...go Figure!

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Also regarding P.94 vs P.97

P.94 or P.97?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2000, 11:02 pm »
KingBee_~
Currently the retailers are stocked with P.97, but Apollo 11 was created by pollinating Genius by P.94.

Around the year's end, all C99 will be P.94.

P.97 was found to have greater variation among individuals, a counter-intuitive result. We made a decision to stick to the "original formula" in all future batches of C99.

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[LostTribe]

This is taken from the Bros Grimm Site regarding the current release of C99

When Brothers Grimm shut down in 2002, the original Cinderella 99 seed stock was quickly depleted and unavailable until their resurrection in 2016. During the dozen or so years that passed between, C99 became more than just popular, it reached cult status as the “Holy Grail” of indoor marijuana.
Many attempts were made by other breeders to copycat the strain, but none ever hit the mark. MrSoul decided in 2015 to retrieve his famous clone “Princess” and the cache of seeds he’d saved from Brothers Grimm in 2002. He grew the seeds to select a P94 generation male and then pollinated Princess exactly as he’d done in 1999 to create the original Cinderella 99 seeds.
The resulting plants have been extensively grown and tested in 2016 and found to satisfy the pickiest grower’s expectations of stable, reliable phenotype. The seedlings have very little variation, having been bred for uniformity - they grow with similar scents, flowering time, potency, yield, and growth structure. And the finished buds will impress any weed connoisseur’s demands for bag appeal, flavor and quality of high.
The dried, cured flowers are rich in terpenes ranging from sweet tropical fruit, to stinky rotten cheese… sometimes all in the same bud - the flavors and aromas are sublime. And of course, there’s the famous C99 high - devastatingly psychoactive, yet clear - you’ll feel like getting creative, playing music, or making art.
Flowering Time: Cinderella 99 likes 56-65 days of 12/12. Pistils should all be withered and the resin heads have all gone cloudy/milky at harvest time.
Morphology: Flowered at 12-18 inches tall, the finished plant will be approximately 36-48 inches tall. Expect frosty tight buds with tropical fruity terpenes.
How Does it Smoke? The properly cured bud feels sticky and pliable between your fingers. On the nose, you get a kind of Hawaiian Punch scent but with a funky body odor undertone. When you light it up, that fruity flavor hits your taste buds first, then the funky aftertaste. The high is smooth, strong and energetic. On the other hand, it can also be paranoia-inducing, depending your mood and setting.
Growing Notes: C99 is a fast flowering plant needing plenty of light and nutrients, she also likes extra calcium. We grow C99 as multi-headed bushes with tomato cages or stakes for support. They also work well in a SOG or SCROG arrangement.
Yield: We harvest 4-5 ounces of primo buds from a 48-inch-tall plant. Above average yield.
Lineage: Princess x P94. See “The Cinderella Story” for details.
The Cinderella Story – as told by MrSoul:
In 1996, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ “Sensi Smile” coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn’t expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call “Princess”. She had devastatingly psychoactive resin and stayed short, compact and had a heavenly aroma of tropical fruit and rotten meat.
The scent given off by Princess, was unusual in the late 90’s - not at all skunky - she’s sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. The high of Princess is also more “psychedelic” or “trippy” compared to the strains like Skunk #1 that were popular. I always advised friends to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more…it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
We can assume Princess’ mother was a Jack Herer not only because Sensi Smile printed it on the package, but also because I’ve smoked verified Jack Herer since then. So Princess’ father is a totally unidentified mystery plant – his pollen somehow got in Sensi’s growroom. Princess had two sisters join her from that same bud. I called them Genius & Café Girl. There were also 3 males from those seeds which regrettably, I didn’t preserve. Genius became the mother of the Brothers Grimm Apollo lines, while Café Girl gave us Rosetta Stone.
I wanted to create a strain that would allow me to share Princess with others, but I wanted this incredible “Holy Grail” of indoor clones available to the world in SEED form. I decided to use a technique called “cubing” (because there are 3 backcrosses involved) to create the seeds. (See the FAQ for an overview of how the cubing process works)
In the process of “cubing” Princess I wanted to add a little strength to her branches because the buds were always so heavy at harvest that the branches flopped over. To do that, I crossed a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous Sensi Shiva Skunk female with one of the males grown from same group of seeds that produced Princess (i.e., her brother). I then grew the resulting seeds to select a male to pollenate Princess to begin the cubing process. That select male was then crossed to Princess, creating “P.50” (using the shorthand notation I developed to indicate the fraction of Princess genes in the cross).
Each generation is the result of crossing a male from the previous generation to Princess herself.
Here’s a blow-by-blow description of the generations:
P.50 = Heavy, single-cola type plants with mellow high (too much influence from the Shiva Skunk) Sweet fruity scent/flavor. Unstable in most traits – for example, 10 days’ difference in fastest/slowest maturation period in a group of 20 seedlings.
P.75 = Princess floral cluster and bud structure, scent/flavor turned more “tropical” like pineapple. The stability was becoming better – two major phenotypes; short & dense (potent too) or tall/HUGE (less potent).
P.88 = Renamed Cinderella 88 when first released on the market. It grows fast and produces excellent yields of FROSTY buds in 7 weeks! Generally uniform seedlings with minor differences in floral formation and some height variance, but the smoke is quite consistent from all plants – Dense, heavy nuggets of fruity scented & flavored (like wild berries) and covered in resin glands, the dried buds have distinctly ORANGE pistils.
And finally P.94 = Cinderella 99. The name “Cinderella” was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning.
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavor, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavor, and Cinderella 99 is of course renowned for the fruity flavor and speedy, scary high inherited from Princess.
Cinderella 99 yields are highly dependent on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. Generally 1-2 lbs/kW depending on the grower’s style.
This project clearly became a huge success. The strain has been embraced by the cannabis growing community. The smokers gave rave reviews & the breeders elevated Cinderella 99 to cult status. It’s extremely gratifying to me, MrSoul that so many hybrids were created by breeders who recognized C99 as a stable parental stock from which to build or tweak another variety. It’s a big compliment to me as the breeder, and a huge testament to the enduring quality of Cinderella 99.

 

[LostTribe]

And a gigantic top of fresh C99 from my man Hazybulldog off IG hope he don't mind....

 

[GoatCheese]

And a gigantic top of fresh C99 from my man Hazybulldog off IG hope he don't mind....
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Nice resin.
Looks alot like Nevil's NL5 clone.

 

[King shango]

It's a good story il wait for some more reviews before I splash the cash on these guys new c99. I wanna no how common the pineapple pheno will b first or if its still there at all. Bless

 

[Dioni]

First off I want to say this is not a bash of the "new C99" I'm really hoping for the best for the resurrection.

I don't know if the question was asked of Soul, maybe you do....Is the male chosen from his old stock the only male going to be used or is he planning to try others?

With the original male used in C99 gone, isn't it a bit difficult to say you can achieve the same EXACT results by picking another and then releasing it as the same or expecting the same results out of the gate?
I can't help but think this is just an expensive tester round with all the variations I've seen so far. I bought 5 packs from Heaven's Stairway and if I remember correctly there were pineapple bombs in each pack. Have not heard much of a pineapple leaning pheno at all yet.

 

[GoatCheese]

Yea, i have read Grimm released C99 "v2" already back then, but the first (original) C99 was made with a P88-male.

So, Princess x P88 male = P94 line = Original C99 seed line.
And the old second version of C99 was Princess x C99/P94 male
The new C99 has different C99/P94 male crossed to the Princess-clone.

Here's few photos of this new C99/P94 male and the notes that came with the photos. Originally posted on Bros Grimm' s Imgrum.net page.

"We grew dozens of C99 and had the great fortune to find this unique male...he's got the identical structure as Genius, the famous mother of our Apollo series. Therefore he's the father of Apollo 13 we'll be releasing this year."
http://www.imgrum.net/media/1195029753032861896_2738420761

"I've been breeding since 1980, but I've never seen a male like this, the father of Cinderella99... a huge plant with tight internodes, that grows like a shrub. His dense floral clusters mimic the shape of female colas. Smells like a ripe Honeydew melon too!"
http://www.imgrum.net/media/1202940931067341005_2738420761

"Closer look at the male's floral development at 2 weeks of flowering"
http://www.imgrum.net/media/1195034734817438100_2738420761

 

[~star~crash~]

And a gigantic top of fresh C99 from my man Hazybulldog off IG hope he don't mind....
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that no doubt is an awesome flower...but it does not appear to me to be the C99 i remember from 1999...IMHO it's not representative ...

these are pics of the my 1999 C99 ...AFAIK these are the only pics available anywhere ...it was among the best marijuana i've ever grown and smoked hands down