I'm pretty sure I am dealing with cyclamen mites and not broads.
why do you think it cyclamens. you have a microscope, can you see the eggs? Broad mites have a very distinct looking egg with dots on it
I'm pretty sure I am dealing with cyclamen mites and not broads.
I looked it over and didn't find any eggs. I have found very very tiny bugs living in the new tips of growth that won't open up. this is where the CM lives. the article and several others said the BM will be found on leaf surfaces and I can't see anything like that. it also avoids the light. theres a video link on my thread but the quality was hard as I was trying to keep the scope in focus. on my phone though, it is much better and people who have seen it think it's some sort of BM. the leaves have either formed perfect pretty spiral curly cues or they have puckered and won't even form looking like the cyclamen damage on a cyclamen plant. I think the spiral leaves are unrelated and/or caused by the phantom defiecencies described by people experiencing this problem.
I looked it over and didn't find any eggs. I have found very very tiny bugs living in the new tips of growth that won't open up. this is where the CM lives. the article and several others said the BM will be found on leaf surfaces and I can't see anything like that. it also avoids the light. theres a video link on my thread but the quality was hard as I was trying to keep the scope in focus. on my phone though, it is much better and people who have seen it think it's some sort of BM. the leaves have either formed perfect pretty spiral curly cues or they have puckered and won't even form looking like the cyclamen damage on a cyclamen plant. I think the spiral leaves are unrelated and/or caused by the phantom defiecencies described by people experiencing this problem.
I looked it over and didn't find any eggs. I have found very very tiny bugs living in the new tips of growth that won't open up. this is where the CM lives. the article and several others said the BM will be found on leaf surfaces and I can't see anything like that. it also avoids the light. theres a video link on my thread but the quality was hard as I was trying to keep the scope in focus. on my phone though, it is much better and people who have seen it think it's some sort of BM. the leaves have either formed perfect pretty spiral curly cues or they have puckered and won't even form looking like the cyclamen damage on a cyclamen plant. I think the spiral leaves are unrelated and/or caused by the phantom defiecencies described by people experiencing this problem.
maybe. the article says they frequently are found together so people kill the BM but the CM regroups a couple weeks later if I remember correctly so people think their BM treatment doesn't work but it's the CM they can't beat. the AG sites said that chems aren't even good with CM and that its only able to be controlled using biological aids and eradication was hard.
I am only using avid as it is classified as a microbial inoculant and not classified as a carcinogen or organophosphate which I thought is the bad ones. its the same classification as Botanigard.
If I were you I would also order some predators. Either swirskiis or Barkari's thts wht I am gonna do.
I dont think ppl like the word "systemic" and will aviod if possible
Pretty obvious noone wants to search the other thread
this is highly effective and approved for vegetable starts and is generally regarded a safe if used in veg twice 14 days apart. when it comes to bms and pesticides, systemic varieties are the only ones that are highly effective and arent all any where as safe as kontos. as far as chems go i would vote for this one to be in folks line up for sure. not a good stand alone but definitely a smart one. thrips, aphids ,all mites , and a bunch of others. lot less gnarley than avid.
Yes, and that's on you for being too lazy to read. Believe it or not, it's considered common courtesy on any forum to read/search FIRST before asking redundant questions. I even gave you the exact way to find the information. And I answered your question at the same time. No fans. That is not something new, but has been posted 100 times already. If you had done even a tiny amount of reading, you would know that, but you are too lazy and don't care about common courtesy. There is a reason they have the search function, but the bottom line is, you just don't want to use it.
so what exactly is Kontos as I've not heard it mentioned yet on here. seems like avid is the go to when doing this and it was the only one I found that said it would work okay but the suggested ones were kin to DDT and that didn't sound good....
can we please talk about which ones are least harmful? I am searching on my own but this is really all new to me.
In the OP there is this link [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://rosemania.com/SprayReferenceOct2013_final.pdf
[/FONT] that shows the levels of toxicity on a scale of 1-4. Im researching Kontos now