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theres a good documentary called 'mirage men' on this sort of thing.

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hoping this will be considered complementary to the thread direction
some quite interesting history

74 BC

According to Plutarch, a Roman army commanded
by Lucullus was about to begin a battle with Mithridates
VI of Pontus when "all on a sudden, the sky burst asunder,
and a huge, flame-like body was seen to fall between the two
armies. In shape, it was most like a wine-jar, and in
colour, like molten silver." Plutarch reports the shape
of the object as like a wine-jar (pithos). The apparently silvery object was reported by both armies.
 

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hoping this will be considered complementary to the thread direction
some quite interesting history

74 BC

According to Plutarch, a Roman army commanded
by Lucullus was about to begin a battle with Mithridates
VI of Pontus when "all on a sudden, the sky burst asunder,
and a huge, flame-like body was seen to fall between the two
armies. In shape, it was most like a wine-jar, and in
colour, like molten silver." Plutarch reports the shape
of the object as like a wine-jar (pithos). The apparently silvery object was reported by both armies.

Plutarch is one of my most favorite of all the roman philosophers.\

My favorite quote of his is very political in flavor, so I will not quote it here.

I will go throw it in the Presidential thread though, because it is still very true.
 

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alrighty, lets move on to something I think all concerned will find interesting and relevant to the original topic
so dear friends, have you read of the Green Fireballs?
they happened in the 1948-1950 time period
this is from the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_fireballs

Green fireballs

Green fireballs are a type of unidentified flying object which have been sighted in the sky since the early 1950s. Early sightings primarily occurred in the southwestern United States, particularly in New Mexico. They were once of notable concern to the US government because they were often clustered around sensitive research and military installations, such as Los Alamos and Sandia National Laboratory, then Sandia base. Meteor expert Dr. Lincoln LaPaz headed much of the investigation into the fireballs on behalf of the military. LaPaz's conclusion was that the objects displayed too many anomalous characteristics to be a type of meteor and instead were artificial, perhaps secret Soviet spy devices. The green fireballs were seen by many people of high repute including LaPaz, distinguished Los Alamos scientists, Kirtland AFB intelligence officers and Air Command Defense personnel. A February 1949 Los Alamos conference attended by aforementioned sighters, Project Sign, world-renowned upper atmosphere physicist Dr. Joseph Kaplan, H-bomb scientist Dr. Edward Teller, other scientists and military brass concluded, though far from unanimously, that green fireballs were natural phenomena. To the conference attendees, though the green fireball source was unknown, their existence was unquestioned. Secret conferences were convened at Los Alamos to study the phenomenon and in Washington by the U.S. Air Force Scientific Advisory Board.
In December 1949 Project Twinkle, a network of green fireball observation and photographic units, was established but never fully implemented. It was discontinued two years later, with the official conclusion that the phenomenon was probably natural in origin.
Green fireballs have been given natural, man-made, and extraterrestrial origins and have become associated with both the Cold War and ufology. Because of the extensive government paper trail on the phenomenon, many ufologists consider the green fireballs to be among the best documented examples of unidentified flying objects (UFOs).
 

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Balloon-like UFO spotted in skies above northeastern Japan

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KYODO NEWS - 2 hours ago - 19:50 | All, Japan


An unidentified white balloon-like object was observed by residents in northeastern Japan on Wednesday morning, with many directing enquiries to the national meteorological agency's local branch and taking to Twitter to voice their excitement.
An official from the Japan Meteorological Agency's Sendai office in Miyagi Prefecture confirmed that it was not an item flown by the agency, saying, "We checked with the Sendai municipal government and the Self-Defense Forces, but they have no idea either."
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(Photo shows an unidentified white balloon-like object that was observed by residents in skies above northeastern Japan on June 17, 2020)
According to the agency, calls about a mysterious floating object began arriving around 7 a.m. A cross-shaped item, described by an agency official as resembling some type of observational equipment, could be seen hanging from the sphere. The transport ministry's office at Sendai airport said there had been no requests for flying an aerial vehicle as per aviation law.
"As (the object) is not on any flight paths, it will not impact aircraft operations, but we will continue to keep an eye on it," an official at the office said.
On Twitter, one user asked "Could it be a UFO?" while another said, "It looks like a hot air balloon."

2 hours ago | KYODO NEWS
 

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an object doing things that we think are impossible.
"humanly" possible. birds can withstand g-forces in turns that would gut us like fish. what we see could be extraterrestrial drones, but of a sophistication we are not capable of producing with our technology today.
 

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"humanly" possible. birds can withstand g-forces in turns that would gut us like fish. what we see could be extraterrestrial drones, but of a sophistication we are not capable of producing with our technology today.
Bob Lazar actually discussed this several years ago. It's a side effect of the gravity drives used by the space craft - the bubble of gravity the ship travels in has it's own gravitational forces that are completely independent of what's going on outside of that bubble. 50 G turns would have no effect of the occupants inside that bubble. Supposedly you wouldn't feel any directional changes at all. You would simply be moving in a different direction.

Sounds too fantastic, right? Allow me to introduce to you the Alcubierre Drive - a gravity engine that obeys the laws of physics as we understand them today. It's how they created the Warp Drive technology scientists are working on now.


It also works on the exact same principles Bob Lazar was talking about in the late 90's early 2000's with the alien propulsion system he claimed to work on.
 

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There is a growing opposition to Michio within the world of Physics, with some saying they guys ego and popularity have made him so arrogant he should no longer be considered a scientist.
 

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There is a growing opposition to Michio within the world of Physics, with some saying they guys ego and popularity have made him so arrogant he should no longer be considered a scientist.
popularity, can't have that in the physics club
rubbing elbows with non physicists? not our kind of guy anymore
 

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popularity, can't have that in the physics club
rubbing elbows with non physicists? not our kind of guy anymore
It's more to do with him believing his own hype. He has been ignoring and flatly denying new discoveries in the physics community because they go against mainstream beliefs that he helped foster.

I know for a fact behind closed doors NDT can't stand him and thinks he's a joke.
 

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It's more to do with him believing his own hype. He has been ignoring and flatly denying new discoveries in the physics community because they go against mainstream beliefs that he helped foster.

I know for a fact behind closed doors NDT can't stand him and thinks he's a joke.
wasn't up to date on these particulars
wouldn't be the first to become a legend in his own mind
it's a tough contest out there, holding on to the title of world's smartest man is going to have some stress
then you start pushing the envelope and saying things that are hard to take back
 
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