Good morning pop_rocks.these look great fiddy!
nice bright bud with a good touch of sugar!
they will only get better as they age but you can smoke them now and really get a taste of really fresh weed
looking at your numbers it looks like you got a good haul too, which is icing on your cake
no need to look too hard for the kind smoke now!
looks like you have a few jars of your own
plus there is just something special about puffin on weed you grew yourself
so any ideas on what strains you want to try next?
Good morning pop_rocks.right on man!
im really happy to hear how thigns turned out and look foreward to checking your next grow
ive grown larryOG from a cutting given to me by a good friend about five years ago and it was bomb
super dank with a really heavy stone
good resin coverage out to the leaf and produced nice
its one of those strains i wish i could have held onto a little longer
esp enjoyed reading your smoke report!
looks like everything got high marks and there is a little variety in the mix
its great to have a few different types on hand to go wiht your mood or for when you want to change things up a bit
like the idea of keeping a few cuts in veg and holding onto mother plants
this will give you plenty of practice with your cloneing too
im sure your next grow will go very well
Good afternoon pop_rocks.you are asking some really good questions!
i can only share my thoughts on this, but im by no means an expert re: genetics
also, ive only just recently gotten back into seeds and selection my own plants
previously i wouyld grow from clones, letting someone else do most of the heavy lifting
/used to grow from seed way back in the day but thats like a different time all together
clone pros:
-you know the plant you are growing will be fem
-these were usually elite clones, a fancy way of saying they were the best of a bunch and a good representation of their strain
-consistent quality
cons:
-you dont get to see the variety of phenos in a certain line
-sometimes others clones can hold pests
-limited to what clones you can find
as far as seeds go its often hit and miss
i popped some old ak seeds recently nad out of five had four males
what ive found is it depends a lot on the breeder as far as how uniform the seed line will be
i think its not uncommon to find at least two or three phenos in any seed line
possibly more
but its the variety im seeking for now
i think the t5 will suit your needs well
they run alot cooler than most hid's
yeah, the plants might grow a little slower and you will prob see more stretch between nodes but your goal here is to jsut keep plants alive and happy to provide clone stock
one thing i will do is use pots to raise smaller plants so they are not so far from the lights while still accommodating the larger plants (a shelf could also serve this purpouse)
plus you wont see as big a hit on your electric bill as you would adding another 600w
heck, t5 fixtures are kind of inexpensive and if you are not happy wiht your growth rates you could even add another to the tent or maybe consider a 400w mh
there are a lot more obstacles growing from seed but the potential to find that gem is totally worth it
you are asking some really good questions!
i can only share my thoughts on this, but im by no means an expert re: genetics
also, ive only just recently gotten back into seeds and selection my own plants
previously i wouyld grow from clones, letting someone else do most of the heavy lifting
/used to grow from seed way back in the day but thats like a different time all together
clone pros:
-you know the plant you are growing will be fem
-these were usually elite clones, a fancy way of saying they were the best of a bunch and a good representation of their strain
-consistent quality
cons:
-you dont get to see the variety of phenos in a certain line
-sometimes others clones can hold pests
-limited to what clones you can find
as far as seeds go its often hit and miss
i popped some old ak seeds recently nad out of five had four males
what ive found is it depends a lot on the breeder as far as how uniform the seed line will be
i think its not uncommon to find at least two or three phenos in any seed line
possibly more
but its the variety im seeking for now
i think the t5 will suit your needs well
they run alot cooler than most hid's
yeah, the plants might grow a little slower and you will prob see more stretch between nodes but your goal here is to jsut keep plants alive and happy to provide clone stock
one thing i will do is use pots to raise smaller plants so they are not so far from the lights while still accommodating the larger plants (a shelf could also serve this purpouse)
plus you wont see as big a hit on your electric bill as you would adding another 600w
heck, t5 fixtures are kind of inexpensive and if you are not happy wiht your growth rates you could even add another to the tent or maybe consider a 400w mh
there are a lot more obstacles growing from seed but the potential to find that gem is totally worth it
Good afternoon Tri_Cho_Me.Just been kind of snooping for a couple page's but when you said, "there are a lot more obstacles growing from seed, but the potential to find that gem is totally worth it." I understand the obstacles piece, totally obvious, but can you expand on the gem? I am 100% new and on my first grow. I have an idea as to what I think you mean, but just want to be sure and not assume.
I'm only growing two at a time currently, so it's hard to tell if differences are growth related or pheno related. ....Well, that and Im only 2 1/2 weeks in, haha.
Tri_Cho_Me
Good evening pop_rocks.evening brother!
its good to ask questions!
it shows a real interest in the topic and also keeps others on their toes!
i like that i dont know what you might bring up and it keeps the conversation rolling along
besides, i just like to talk about weed but most of the time my friends hvae no idea what im on about because many of them dont grow
"I've heard talk of "elite clones" , now I know what that term means. So somebody grows a bunch of a popular strain from seed and selects the best plant from all of those pheno's. Or maybe they make a cross and then select from the offspring and just take cuttings instead of finding a male and making seeds. It all sounds like fun to me."
i think for the most part elite clones are just this
someone found a real winner and cloned it
its often not even available in seed form because breeding is hard work and takes lots of knowledge,dedication and effort
i feel the same way about fem seeds
if done well, i guess the are just as prone to hermie as any other seed, but i dont know if most are done well
ill stick wiht the reg packs and weed out any i dont want
plus one day i might try my hand at chucking some pollen to at least make my own stash of seeds
as long as you can recognize a male plant, give it a try
you could always post pics if you are in doubt
"Once I have my 3 strongest females I can pot them up and switch to 12/12."
this is pretty much how i do it too!
ill work wiht a mother plant for a couple cycles and then move her into the flowering tent
with the added time in veg, her root ball is huge and shes usually very bushy because of all the topping
ill often trim her down to a few choice branches based on location of branch and how vigorous they look
ill take the branches ive trimmed and make more clones
im with you brother with not wanting to raise any eyebrows
even tho i live in a med state and have cool neighbors, im not trying to attract attention
Good evening Tri_Cho_Me. I think that it will be easer to tell if you have different pheno's after a couple more weeks. Since the germination times are different you probably can't tell much yet. Your smaller plant now may be your biggest and best yielder at the end. You will just have to watch them and see. Mine were very similar to each other until the end of veg and really started to separate in the stretch and flower.Thanks guys! It makes sense and is what I was assuming.
Fiddy, I am growing two of the same right now. Both Strawberry Kush. My #2 took an extra day or 2 to shed it's casing and has been behind it seems ever since. Aside from that, they look the same. Everything is super condensed and bushy at this point.
One of my reasons to go with Fem seeds, is that with my space restrictions (4x2x7 feet) I liked knowing that each seed was definitely a female and I didnt need to start extras just in case. I feel like 2 is my perfect amount for that size, and I would hate to pop 4 beans only to come out with one in the end.
Does that makes sense or am I making it more complicated on myself? I currently don't have a veg area, so that is why maximizing my space, light and energy is important to me. I do have the beginnings of a veg Cab. Check out my link here!
Tri_Cho_Me
I wouldn't worry about it much. With 2 plants you have a chance of 2 pheno's. Shit I was 3 for 3 so it just depends on how stable the strain is. The best thing you can do is get the best genetics that you can find and grow them as happy as they can be. Try different strains until you find one you love. Clone the one you love and keep a cutting in your cabinet but grow others too for variety and a chance of finding something better. People say growing weed is addictive so you may end up with more than one tent someday. Either way I'm sure you will be sampling some of your first grow in a couple months or so and have a huge smile on your face and a great sense of accomplishment.Also, it sucks that with only room for two in flower, I can't really give myself a chance to notice differences in multiple plants. Any suggestions for alleviating this? My hunch is just super awesome, reliable genetics...
Tri_Cho_Me
Good evening Tri_Cho_Me. I think that it will be easer to tell if you have different pheno's after a couple more weeks. Since the germination times are different you probably can't tell much yet. Your smaller plant now may be your biggest and best yielder at the end. You will just have to watch them and see. Mine were very similar to each other until the end of veg and really started to separate in the stretch and flower.
I used fem seeds on my first grow and will be using them on my second. I'm glad I did it made it less complicated. I have a 3x3x7 flower tent and a 2x4x7 veg tent so I don't have a ton of room either. What I will be counting on is that males show earlier than females so I can have more plants in smaller pots until I toss the boys and pot up my 3 lady's or however many I'm going to flower. Just a little more complicated but may be worth the effort from what I'm reeding.
Your doing great and I think keeping things as simple as possible is great. If down the road you want to experiment that go for it. Find out what works for you and rock it.
I remember your veg cabinet from a few weeks ago. Did you get it vented? You still won't need it for a bit but it will help you get more harvests in when you use it.
Sounds good Tri_Cho_Me.I basically just need a small oscillating fan and a T5 setup that I can attach to the top of the inside of that cabinet and Im set. I have everything else. I think between the fan and that cold air intake in there, the ventilation should be fine.
I put a bunch of that sticky felt type stuff on the cabinet doors to try and seal it so no light would peek out. Didn't work, so now I am trying to figure out a way to block that area without being obvious. Shoe rack... Some sort of drape or curtain over it... Not sure yet.
Tri_Cho_Me
Sounds good Tri_Cho_Me.
I've herd that light proof isn't super important in veg so you may be ok. I think what is important is that they get 18 hours under that t5. Maybe make your dark period in the middle of the night when there isn't as much light around your house. I read a thread on icmag whare somebody was using a hall closet and they would go in to get clothes all the time during lights out and had no problems. I'd say do your best to make it dark but don't worry too much about light leaks. Maybe even a cardboard box in front of it or something.