Black Lives Matter "protest" lol...

[Cool Moe]

Why is "gang lifestyle" prevalent among black males? Hell even further, why is gang lifestyle more prevalent amongst the most poverty stricken? That goes for the entire world not just the USA. Could it be because they are a product of their environment? And their environment has disenfranchised them? They don't have any prospects, they turn to crime, drugs and alcohol, 1 in 4 black men will see the inside of a jail cell in their lifetimes, generations of black children in these areas go without having a male figure in their lives, their vote is suppressed, their educational districts are not up to par, CIA dumping crack cocaine into their communities, and on and on it goes. The typical net worth of a white family is ten times that of the average black family ($171,000 to $17,150).

These are systemic obstacles to black americans and are a direct result of racist policies and the resulting environmental factors that led to these situations today. All of this shit adds up.

We were taught about the "vicious cycle of poverty" in high school sociology class over 40 years back. Nothing has changed since. Systemic policies like real-estate red-lining, employment discrimination and discrimination by lenders are all designed to keep poor people poor and make it nearly impossible to climb out of the disadvantage they are born into. To deny it exists suggests a cherry-picked ignorance borne from racism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

 

[h.h.]

You're just not understanding what I'm saying here lol.


People who make the genetic argument are just flat out racists. I don't give a shit what you have to say, you're making the same argument that literal white supremacists and neo nazis make. If that's your argument then I unapolegetically call you a racist lol.


What is gang lifestyle a product of? Genetics or environment?

They don’t want to understand. They get confused opening up their minds, thus they pick the statistics that justify their beliefs. They find their safe spot, all others be damned. Keeps life simple for the simple minded.

 

[Cannavore]

We were taught about the "vicious cycle of poverty" in high school sociology class over 40 years back. Nothing has changed since. Systemic policies like real-estate red-lining, employment discrimination and discrimination by lenders are all designed to keep poor people poor and make it nearly impossible to climb out of the disadvantage they are born into. To deny it exists suggests a cherry-picked ignorance borne from racism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

bingo .

 

[Hammerhead]

The stats don't make as much sense until you add in so-called "intraracial" crime. Sure, there are many more white victims

Fact chk...the perpetrator was only shot 4 times...
And a deadly weapon (knife) was recovered from the vehicle that the perp has admitted to having possession of in a statement to law enforcement
He was resisting arrest for a ppo against him from his ex who was sexually assaulted by perp

This narrative that you can break the law and then become a victim of police response is not only a failed train of thought pushed by the media,but will
Fall apart as the real facts are presented in a court of law...dont set yourself up for dissapointment by prejudging absent of all pertinent information

Where are your facts coming from?. He was shot 7x. Come on dude its not hard to find the truth. Posting fake facts helps who?.

https://www.doj.state.wi.us/news-releases/update-kenosha-officer-involved-shooting-0
Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon 7 times. Officer Sheskey fired the weapon into Mr. Blake’s back. No other officer fired their weapon. Kenosha Police Department does not have body cameras, therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

- Growing up in the UK - we had thousands of Jamaicans and other Caribbean people here in the 60's - and quite a few from Africa - generally we all got along - till there was a big change with the advent of crack cocaine and the Yardies came in - bringing their gang culture - which sorta fused with the USA's gangster/rap culture in the past 30 years or so -

- Now we have GRIME music here in the UK - and it feeds of that whole selling crack/dope - violence with guns and knives - and banging hoes - same old same stuff as what's been on with Rap music for years basically -

- Crime has shot up - but most of it seems to be among the black communities fighting each other over their postcodes - tribal, very tribal - and very bloody - so much so that its freaked many other ethnicities out - and they leave in droves for more secure pastures - in the 'burbs' or out in the countryside - similar to what's happening now in New York and L.A. stateside - because they don't want to be victims of this grimy crime - these people are no more dispossessed or disenfranchised than any of the working or unemployed poor here in the UK - they have the same rights and liberties as anyone else - and social security will support them same as anyone who's in need -

- I grew up in a poor multi-racial family - with just a Mother - no Dad around for most of my upbringing - it didn't force me to go out and murder anyone - or mug anyone because I wasn't Royalty - and was just a member of some underclass of society -

*checking over those USA Justice Department figures : https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43 - just on 'Homicides' alone the black population is said to commit 53% of all homicides in the USA - 90% of these homicides were by black males - which makes up 6% of the population of the USA - and I'd say that's why there are more blacks killed by cops than whites statistically - because blacks commit more violent crime - and are considered to be more violent because of it - since the cops must know these figures - and so react upon it - for better or worse -

- Gangs and gangsters are a big part of American culture - maybe that's why they are so tolerated - because they are celebrated -

Why is "gang lifestyle" prevalent among black males? Hell even further, why is gang lifestyle more prevalent amongst the most poverty stricken? That goes for the entire world not just the USA. Could it be because they are a product of their environment? And their environment has disenfranchised them? They don't have any prospects, they turn to crime, drugs and alcohol, 1 in 4 black men will see the inside of a jail cell in their lifetimes, generations of black children in these areas go without having a male figure in their lives, their vote is suppressed, their educational districts are not up to par, CIA dumping crack cocaine into their communities, and on and on it goes. The typical net worth of a white family is ten times that of the average black family ($171,000 to $17,150).

These are systemic obstacles to black americans and are a direct result of racist policies and the resulting environmental factors that led to these situations today. All of this shit adds up.

 

[med4u]

Where are your facts coming from?. He was shot 7x. Come on dude its not hard to find the truth. Posting fake facts helps who?.

https://www.doj.state.wi.us/news-releases/update-kenosha-officer-involved-shooting-0
Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon 7 times. Officer Sheskey fired the weapon into Mr. Blake’s back. No other officer fired their weapon. Kenosha Police Department does not have body cameras, therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras.

Dig a little deeper with your research...the weapon was discharged 7 times....the perp was only struck by 4 of those seven rounds
So eat your own shit on facts Charlie....your constant display of bogus information and partially reported half truths from biased msm is why alot of people call you out excessively

 

[gaiusmarius]

i don't at all because i know the origins of these memes. they quite literally come from StormFront. this isn't my opinion. you can trace these memes directly back to neo nazis. the people who repeat them are either aware of this or not.


the stats are correct but do not address the elephant in the room - racism. it's a bad faith argument. black people are arrested for the same crimes whites commit at a higher rate disproportionate to their population size, they're also falsely incarcerated at a higher rate. It's not as simple as reading one line of a statistic and going YEAH BRO. It's a very complex issue to discuss, which is why simpletons and racists look at the face value statistic to try to make their point.


which is exactly why dogwhistles work. there are two types of people that bring these issues up... racists, and people who don't know any better.


if black people are genetically more violent - prove it (it cant be, which is why racists use these tactics to get people to side with them).

i find this response confusing.

so if the strormfront says that the world is round we have to all believe the opposite?

what does it matter who said something if that thing is factually correct?

how can we make peoples lives better if we deny the factual realities and or refuse to talk about the facts because of who else is talking about those facts?

isn't that shooting ourselves in the foot as a society?

you can only solve problems of you analize them factually and objectively, top to bottom, correctly, so you can come up with an actual solution that actually helps make things better.

 

[Hammerhead]

Dig a little deeper with your research...the weapon was discharged 7 times....the perp was only struck by 4 of those seven rounds
So eat your own shit on facts Charlie....your constant display of bogus information and partially reported half truths from biased msm is why alot of people call you out excessively

I posted my link not for MSM. That came from WI dept of justice. This is what the Police have reported. Post your link I will look at it. If you correct I will say so. Can you do the same?. I asked you where your facts are coming from. Stop being so antagonistic. There's no need. And again for the 10th time stop with the name calling.



Here is the whole update..
UPDATE: Kenosha Officer Involved Shooting

Aug 26 2020


KENOSHA, Wis. – The Wisconsin Department of Justice (DOJ) Division of Criminal Investigation (DCI) is investigating an officer involved shooting (OIS) in Kenosha, Wis. that occurred on the evening of Sunday, August 23, 2020.

Kenosha Police Department officers were dispatched to a residence in the 2800 block of 40th Street after a female caller reported that her boyfriend was present and was not supposed to be on the premises.

During the incident, officers attempted to arrest Jacob S. Blake, age 29. Law enforcement deployed a taser to attempt to stop Mr. Blake, however the taser was not successful in stopping Mr. Blake. Mr. Blake walked around his vehicle, opened the driver’s side door, and leaned forward. While holding onto Mr. Blake’s shirt, Officer Rusten Sheskey fired his service weapon 7 times. Officer Sheskey fired the weapon into Mr. Blake’s back. No other officer fired their weapon. Kenosha Police Department does not have body cameras, therefore the officers were not wearing body cameras.

The shooting officer, Kenosha Police Officer Rusten Sheskey, has been a law enforcement officer with Kenosha Police Department for seven years.

During the investigation following the initial incident, Mr. Blake admitted that he had a knife in his possession. DCI agents recovered a knife from the driver’s side floorboard of Mr. Blake’s vehicle. A search of the vehicle located no additional weapons.

Law enforcement immediately provided medical aid to Mr. Blake. Flight for Life transported Mr. Blake to Froedtert Hospital in Milwaukee. Mr. Blake remains at the hospital.

DCI is leading this investigation and is assisted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Wisconsin State Patrol and Kenosha County Sheriff’s Office. All involved law enforcement are fully cooperating with DCI during this investigation. The involved officers have been placed on administrative leave.

DCI is continuing to review evidence and determine the facts of this incident and will turn over investigative reports to a prosecutor following a complete and thorough investigation.

When DCI is the lead investigating agency of a shooting involving a law enforcement officer, DCI aims to provide a report of the incident to the prosecutor within 30 days. The prosecutor then reviews the report and makes a determination about what charges, if any, are appropriate. If the prosecutor determines there is no basis for prosecution of the law enforcement officer, DCI will thereafter make the report available to the public.

No additional details are currently available.

 

[med4u]

So it's exactly what I am saying. Lotta blacks are systemically disadvantaged due to socioeconomic factors out of their control. It becomes a cycle (disenfranchised blacks giving birth to a new generation of disenfranchised blacks, and on and on it goes) and it leads to all sorts of problems.

In other words - the problems are environmental, not genetic. envrionmental problems can be fixed... problem is those on the right love to point out these problems but never offer any real solutions to deal with it.

Only half true... recent studies indicate the MOA-A
Levels used to supress serotonin and dopamine in brain receptors can vary quite differently between
Racial genetic make up...higher level were found in
Caucasians vs African American....however social
Disparity Input at early stages of brain development was also shown to alter chemicals and enzymes effecting these levels at a 50% causation ratio
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Blog Post*December 07, 2015THE GENETICS OF VIOLENT BEHAVIORDolores Garcia-Arocena, Ph.D.

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The prevalence of violence in our society has motivated biomedical researchers, sociologists and psychologists to look for genetic markers, predictors and causes for this destructive human behavior. Advances in neurochemistry and imaging technology have shown that many emotional and control disorders such as violence, suicide, depression and anxiety, involve disruptions in the brain’s normal activity due to altered gene expression, chemical imbalances, and environmental factors.

Violent genes

In developed countries, the majority of all violent crime is committed by a small group of antisocial repeat offenders. But until recently, no genes had been shown to contribute to severe or recidivistic violent behaviors such as homicide. According to a meta-analysis on data from 24 genetically informative studies, up to 50% of the total variance in aggressive behavior is explained by genetic influences.

Nature and nurture

Both our genotype and the environmental factors to which we are exposed to throughout life contribute to shaping our brain functions.*Changes in the expression of specific genes in the brain -such as*MAOA, DAT1 and DRS2- can affect neurotransmitter levels, which, in turn, influences complex functions such as intelligence, mood and memory. Environmental influences including stress, substance abuse, diet, sleep quality and social relationships also affect the brain.

The warrior gene

Monoamine oxidase A (MAO-A) is an enzyme that normally functions in neuronal mitochondria by breaking down several key neurotransmitters: serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine which are important in aggression, emotion and cognition (Figure 1). The*MAOA*gene –located in the X chromosome- is also known as the warrior gene, since abnormal versions of the gene often result in aggressive behaviors.

Several animal models in which the function of MAO-A is defective display excessive levels of serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine (noradrenaline) in the brain. Additionally,*MAO-A mutant mice*have increased reactivity to stress and increased aggression to intruder mice compared to normal mice. Humans carry different variants of the*MAOAgene that result in different levels of gene expression. “Normal” individuals carry MAO variants that express high levels of neuronal MAO-A, a small subset of patients carry MAO variants that result in the absence of functional MAO-A, while other people carry variants that result in low levels of MAO-A expression in the brain.

Interestingly, MAO-A’s function affects the following systems:

The dopamine system, which is involved in mood, motivation and reward, arousal, and other behaviors.*The serotonin system, which is involved in impulse control, affect regulation, sleep, and appetite.The epinephrine/norepinephrine system, which facilitates fight-or-flight reactions and autonomic nervous system activity.Figure 1.Monoamine oxidase (MAO-A) is an enzyme that functions inactivating neurotransmitter amines such as dopamine and serotonin in the brain. *In the absence of sufficient levels of MAO, these neurotransmitters accumulate in neurons, which have been correlated with extreme aggressive behaviors

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Hmmm - yes - I did once look into this Warrior Gene - apparently its claimed to be much more prevalent amongst the melanin enriched -

- recently it was used in the defence of a man accused of murder -

Convicted Murderer Claims 'Warrior Gene' Caused Him to Kill


https://www.newsweek.com/warrior-gene-caused-man-kill-1470214

* RIP Chadwick Boseman - (who very recently passed on)

 

[gaiusmarius]

Why Trump Will Win - Michael Moore Explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMm5HfxNXY4&t=200s

[YOUTUBEIF]vMm5HfxNXY4[/YOUTUBEIF]

this was back before the 2016 election. funnily enough he came out with a simmilar warnning just a few days ago.

 

[Cannavore]

https://twitter.com/donnaimamTX/status/1300277037463109632


who's gonna defend this oen lol

 

[White Beard]

Dig a little deeper with your research...the weapon was discharged 7 times....the perp was only struck by 4 of those seven rounds
So eat your own shit on facts Charlie....your constant display of bogus information and partially reported half truths from biased msm is why alot of people call you out excessively

This is fascinating: the officer was HOLDING ON to Blake’s SHIRT - you can see it in the available footage - meaning that Mr. Officer MISSED THREE SHOTS AT POINT-BLANK RANGE????

As you’re such a big fan of the police, I’m surprised you’d take refuge in the fact that he’s A LOUSY SHOT to play down the shooting of a man who was essentially a passer-by. The police weren’t called on a menacing black man, with or without children - they were called to a dispute between two women; perhaps you have a first-rate explanation of why the officers ignored the situation they were dispatched to in order to zero in on Blake, in which case, I’d love to hear it. Please cite a source other than Andy “Concrete Milkshake” Ngo or an angry-gun-guy youtube channel.

 

[White Beard]

Why Trump Will Win - Michael Moore Explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMm5HfxNXY4&t=200s

[YOUTUBEIF]vMm5HfxNXY4[/YOUTUBEIF]

this was back before the 2016 election. funnily enough he came out with a simmilar warnning just a few days ago.

Despite having given up and gone home 165 years ago, the Confederates have *never* abandoned their war against free blacks and the ‘race-traitors’ who freed them...and they’re closer to finally winning that war NOW than they’ve ever been - thanks to more than century of lying about their ‘loyalty’ to the United States, hiding behind their pretend patriotism and waiting for the day they rise up to “take it all back”.

You read Stormfront, Gaius - you cite them - none of this can be news to you.

 

[CaptainDankness]

What is gang lifestyle a product of? Genetics or environment?

I'd say more so it's the gangster rap culture, there certainly wasn't as many gangs before NWA came out. Violence has gotten worse and all since the 80's. Disco days black people didn't have Bloods and Crips, it just wasn't as cool to be a gangster. Now it's cool to slang drugs and shoot n words in the head, they make millions of dollars singing about it. You see kids all the time trying to be cool dressing like the gangster rappers.

It definitely isn't just being poor, we don't have gang violence in the trailer parks. Lol, Murder sure, gang violence, not so much.

 

[Klompen]

Fact chk...the perpetrator was only shot 4 times...
And a deadly weapon (knife) was recovered from the vehicle that the perp has admitted to having possession of in a statement to law enforcement
He was resisting arrest for a ppo against him from his ex who was sexually assaulted by perp

This narrative that you can break the law and then become a victim of police response is not only a failed train of thought pushed by the media,but will
Fall apart as the real facts are presented in a court of law...dont set yourself up for dissapointment by prejudging absent of all pertinent information

Oh well if he ONLY shot him 4 times..... wait.... how again is that still a clean shoot? What police tactic specifically was he using? Is it normal procedure to grab the back of someone's clothing and discharge a gun into them?

Its so fucking crazy how people keep bringing up that he had a knife in the car. The police have never established whatsoever that he was reaching for the knife. If that guy was a white guy and he had an AR-15 of some sort in there, you guys would be losing your minds over this. You wouldn't say he was a rapist. You'd scream that he was just accused of rape and had a right to a trial. You'd say the media and the sheeple were rushing to judgment. You'd extend all the benefit of the doubt that you're giving to the cops. The double standard I see on these things is impossible not to notice if you're not brain-deep in bullshit all day.

 

[Klompen]

I'd say more so it's the gangster rap culture, there certainly wasn't as many gangs before NWA came out. Violence has gotten worse and all since the 80's. Disco days black people didn't have Bloods and Crips, it just wasn't as cool to be a gangster. Now it's cool to slang drugs and shoot n words in the head, they make millions of dollars singing about it. You see kids all the time trying to be cool dressing like the gangster rappers.

It definitely isn't just being poor, we don't have gang violence in the trailer parks. Lol, Murder sure, gang violence, not so much.

There's definitely gangs in trailer parks but they're not networked as well unless they are bikers. Some of the tweaker networks that pop up in those places can get downright dangerous.

Certainly gangster rap and other materialistic media are toxic, but ask yourself why those are the forms of expression black people are getting air time for. Who puts someone like Fitty Cent on TV instead of someone like Cornell West? Who is selling them all this bullshit?

 

[theclearspot]

There was a link Gypsy put up a few weeks back which shows research into the topics brought up by BLM. All the empirical quantitative research shows NO systemic racism in society, no employment bias, no less chances at school etc. I was brought up in a white irish immigrant family in the UK. We had the same cards dealt as the black dudes. The real disappointment is that the intelligentsia of the black community has been duped by the real agenda. That is the attack on working class people of Burma, Columbia, the UK, Russia, the US etc. Divide and rule, get everyone linkedin. Over Tax, over mortgage them. Linkedin. Now we have a race war on the horizon because white working class males will not be told by suburban 20 yr old graduates of ‘ Black Studies’ who have never done a days work in their lives, that they are priviliged. Sure,lets see how far BLM get in north Dublin, Liverpool and Belfast!! I for sure would not recommend black rappers turning up in the streets of these cities...!!

 

[flylowgethigh]

These people are chanting "Death to America". Insane.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1300443766659178502

 

[med4u]

Oh well if he ONLY shot him 4 times..... wait.... how again is that still a clean shoot? What police tactic specifically was he using? Is it normal procedure to grab the back of someone's clothing and discharge a gun into them?

Its so fucking crazy how people keep bringing up that he had a knife in the car. The police have never established whatsoever that he was reaching for the knife. If that guy was a white guy and he had an AR-15 of some sort in there, you guys would be losing your minds over this. You wouldn't say he was a rapist. You'd scream that he was just accused of rape and had a right to a trial. You'd say the media and the sheeple were rushing to judgment. You'd extend all the benefit of the doubt that you're giving to the cops. The double standard I see on these things is impossible not to notice if you're not brain-deep in bullshit all day.

Just guessin but perhaps he was tryin to shoot him in his black ass ..and missed .....
Me personally.....i would have capped him in the base of his skull...and painted the dash.with what little brains he apparently has...a knife can be every bit effective as a deadly weapon as a gun at close range...bad decisions make for bad outcomes
Now he prolly wont even have his kids to push him around in his chair and empty his shit bag....but definatly wont be tryin to choke his ex out...karma crushes