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Luther Budbank said:
NOKUY, you may be thinking of Boulder Outdoor Survival School (BOSS). I hope to become more involved with them in the future.

yep thats the one....here's the link if anyone is interested:
http://www.boss-inc.com/

"red145"...thats great info to post!

most peeps dont have a clue what it takes to put together a years worth of rations
 
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Great addition, RED145. I've kept brown rice at room temperature for 5 years and it was still good. I think dried beans would last forever. Archeologists have uncovered pemmican that was 400 years old and was still edible.

Of course, most of us here at icmag are already ahead of the game. What better thing could we all want than a nice stash of ganja which can be used to treat a whole host of medical problems? It would be worth its' weight in gold and could be traded for anything. I imaging ganja seeds would be extremely valuable as well. Ganja growing skills will be in high demand.

Life would be a lot easier as a member of a tribe. I'm tempted to suggest we arrange a place to meet if the times become extremely challenging. We're all from so many different regions, that may be impractical. Long distance travel may be dangerous.

It is often suggested to live near water and you'll never go hungry. I've often admired the survival skills of the Cajuns in Louisiana. Does anybody know about any books or anything that explains how they do it?
 
I found this article.

About the Author:
Tom Brown, Jr has called the wilderness home for most of his life. In 1978 he wrote his first book, The Tracker (an autobiography), and founded the Tracker School where he teaches courses in survival skills such as tracking, nature awareness and ancient Earth philosophy. He has since written another 15 books, including Tom Brown's Field Guide to Wilderness Survival as well as The Search, The Vision, The Quest, The Journey, Grandfather and Awakening Spirits. For details on tracking courses and how to obtain Tom's books, visit The Tracker, Inc. website at www.trackerschool.com.
This article was extracted from Nexus Magazine, Volume 7, Number 1 (December 1999 - January 2000).
A Week at the Standard Class

In his book The Gospel of the Red Man, Ernest Thompson Seton, father of the American Boy Scout movement, tells of an encounter he had with a particularly energetic Indian. "In 1882 at Fort Ellice I saw a young Cree who on foot had just brought in dispatches from Fort Qu'Apelle 125 miles away in 25 hours. It created almost no comment."
Tom "the Tracker" Brown -- Scottish by ancestry, a 37-year-old New Jerseyan by birth, and an Apache scout by choice -- often quotes that passage during the classes he teaches in wilderness survival. Seton's observation that the long-distance messenger failed to elicit so much as a "Jumpin' Jehoshaphat!" from onlookers is intended to impress upon students that Native Americans regularly performed seemingly extraordinary feats. It also may make it easier for them to accept some of Tom Brown's larger-than-life accomplishments, such as, oh, the time he hacked a hunk of hair off the behind of a hibernating grizzly bear, or his self-professed ability to diagnose cancer by examining someone's footprints.
On a raw Monday night in April, 34 backpacking pilgrims from across the United States and Canada converged on the 200-acre Tracker farm in Asbury Township -- one of many Warren County hamlets that cling to Route 78 as if it's a highway made of corduroy and they are incorporated burrs -- to take Brown's entry-level "Standard Course." The students ranged in age from 17 to 48; six were women. They ran the lifestyle gamut from ordained Lutheran minister to Woodstock generation refugee. Each paid a $515 registration fee (which did not exempt anyone from cooking, cleanup, and wood-chopping chores), unrolled a sleeping bag in the loft of the open-faced barn that would be their live-in schoolhouse for the next week, eye balled the grass tepee and squat sweat lodge that stand outside by the fire pit, dined from a pot of communal chow mein, and generally shuffled around like a shy summer camper waiting to be whistled into action.
There was some nervous anticipation over the impending appearance of the man whom many people consider to be part Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, and Geronimo: a human trifecta of guile, guts, and backwoods know-how. Critics dismiss Brown as a P. T. Barnum in moccasins, but no one denies that he is a marquee name among outdoorsmen. Nearly 500,000 copies of his books -- which include two highly dramatized autobiographies, The Tracker and The Search, and six field guides -- have been sold. Brown has been featured in Reader's Digest and People. He has done several guest shots on Late Night with David Letterman, was one of Charles Kuralt's On the Road video pitstops, and a movie of his life is in the works. More than 15,000 students have passed through Brown's survival school since it opened nine years ago. A few have run the eleven-course gauntlet that takes one from the spiritual eye-openers of the Philosophy Workshop ("If you're ready to see thunder on a clear night and fire where there's no wood, this is the course for you," Brown cryptically remarked) to the Advanced Expert excursion, 21 days in the Pine Barrens -- in February -- equipped with only the clothes on their backs. The latter is a scaled-down version of Brown's most famous exploit: about 1970 (the exact year slips his mind) he walked naked into the prickly Pine Barrens, emerging some twelve months later swaddled in skins and twenty pounds heavier. During that time he never once had pizza delivered to his campsite.
"He tells you how to go out and blend in with the environment, which is a much more gentle way of going," observed student Jim Helton, a middle-aged business consultant from Connecticut with a master's degree in theology from Yale, explaining what makes Brown different from other survivalists. "He has classic heroic proportions. The things he's done are things you read about in mythology....He's very much an individual in the classic American sense." Half of the ground floor of the Tracker barn has been converted into a rustic classroom. Students sit like bleacher bums on rump-busting planks supported by tree stumps. Animal skulls and tomahawks decorate the walls. Two 50-gallon drums serve as a makeshift stove. Shortly after 9 PM, Brown strode in, dressed in a gray sweatshirt, jeans, and unlaced Reebok sneakers. Dozens of brains scrambled to fine tune their image of him. His physique and presence are more imposing than expected. The arms and upper body are plated with muscle, raising the possibility that he spends his spare time uprooting redwoods. Yet, surprisingly, this devout worshipper of the Earth Mother sports a slight paunch, chain slurps decaffeinated coffee, and puffs away furiously on Marlboros. He also lapses into verbal bravado that seems uncharacteristic of someone who cherishes survivalism as a way to reconnect one's soul to "the spirit of the land," not as a paramilitary romp in the woods.
"There's no such thing as free time in this course. None!" declared Brown, a hint of the ass-kicking drill instructor in his voice. "My goal on Sunday is to make you look like hell....I've spent all my life perfecting these skills. I gave up everything -- college, friends, high school, everything -- to learn them....By the time I'm done with you on Sunday you'll be able to survive any place in this country other than a parking lot. You'll be able to track mice and deer across that gravel out there. You'll see more in a flash of an eye than you see in a year of your life."
Brown went on to say that 38 of his students became light-footed enough to grab an unsuspecting deer after finishing this course, that he has been called upon to track 600 criminals and missing persons, and that FBI agents, police officers, and "all the Army survival groups" come to him for special training.
Brown owes most of this sundry knowledge to Stalking Wolf, the mentor he reverentially refers to as "Grandfather." Stalking Wolf was a Lipan Apache scout who wandered the world for 63 years before coming to Southern New Jersey in the 1950s to be near his son, a serviceman stationed at McGuire Air Force Base. Brown, born and raised in Beachwood, was seven when he met the mysterious Indian through his pal Rick. Stalking Wolf was Rick's grandfather, but he made both boys his blood brothers. For ten years, Grandfather, who was 83 when the apprenticeship began, used the Pine Barrens as a wildlife laboratory to teach his two disciples how to live and think like Apaches. He taught them to hunt. He taught them to fish. He blindfolded them and turned them loose in the forest for a weekend. He taught them the edible plants and wildflowers. He had them spend so much time on their bellies tracking animals that Brown remembers having a callus on his diaphragm. "Grandfather was barely five-foot-seven, weighed maybe 135 pounds," he told his students, "and he beat the hell out of us at 90 years old. That man could outrun me by miles. He could outclimb me. He could outlift me. And he could outwork me." At an age when most men have trouble fetching their slippers, Grandfather "had the body of a 25-year-old gymnast" and could scamper across dry leaves without making a sound. So said Tom Brown.
After graduating from Toms River High School, Brown put Grandfather's collective wisdom to the test by roaming North America alone for ten years. He followed the beat of his nomadic Indian heart to the Badlands, Death Valley, and beyond, perfecting his survival skills until he didn't even require a knife to subsist in the harshest terrain. He then returned home, married, began writing books -- recounting serial adventures that have Tom Brown rescuing a lost child from a pack of wild dogs and Tom Brown coaxing a badger into drinking water from his hand -- and opened his school. The transition from wanderer to teacher fulfilled a vision that Grandfather had had: that young Tom would some day spread the Native American phi losophy in the white man's world, sensitizing all those muck amucks who have poisoned the Earth Mother, depleted her precious natural resources, and imprisoned themselves in a ghost dance of conspicuous consumption.
Brown paused, knowing his students could not buy one element of that biographical sketch. It stretched credulity beyond reasonable limits.
"Why are you still in New Jersey, Tom Brown?" he asked rhetorically, anticipating their question. "Well, that's simple.... Wherever this state goes, the rest of the nation will follow. We've got most of the toxic dumps here. We've got most of the cancer. We've got most of the problems. So when you're trying to fight a war to save somethin', you get on the front line." He muttered under his breath, while stamping out a cigarette, "Yeah, I'd like to be somewheres else."


Comedian Pat Paulsen once wryly observed that the epic battle of man versus nature is no more. Alas, man has finally succeeded in beating his environment to a pulp. Survivalism in its purest form is an attempt to put that relationship back on its original harmonious footing by discarding the creature comforts of civilization like ballast from a sinking ship. At 8:30 AM on Tuesday, Brown tossed the matches overboard. Although the Native Americans were master fire builders capable of cooking a meal without sending up smoke (indeed, Brown says he once camped out undetected for two weeks on the median strip of the Garden State Parkway), the emphasis was onstarting a fire properly rather than keeping one going. Brown and an assistant instructor demonstrated the bow drill, a friction method in which a pint-size bow is used to turn a short, pointed stick in place until it makes a tiny ember.
By eleven o'clock the Tracker students had carved their own implements and were gamely trying to eke out flames. Their initial efforts produced more noise than heat. Close your eyes and stand next to a bow driller and you'd swear you were standing next to someone who was either washing a window or abusing a piglet. A group of bow drillers in action create a high-pitched symphony of squeaks. Fire starting, however, became a symbolic milestone on the road to pure survivalism. The week was punctuated by sudden yelps of "I got it!" -- accompanied by the faint odor of burning wood and the eruption of a triumphant smile. This was, after all, a novel experience for everyone but Judy Burns, who, having taken the Standard Course last summer, was back with her teenage daughter, Meghan, in tow. Burns had brushed up on her bow drilling at home in Los Angeles, although she had to cut short one practice session when her living room rug began smoldering.
After a lunch of communal stew, Carl "Bear" Povisils, another Tracker instructor, led the class into the cornfield behind the barn where he showed them Survival Step Two: how to construct a debris hut -- an emergency shelter of branches, leaves, and random detritus. The remainder of the day was devoted to throwing the rabbit stick -- a crude billy club used to clunk small game in a pinch -- and to building a variety of animal traps. Following another stew break, there were evening lectures on fish spearing, the making of primitive tools from rocks ("the bones of the earth"), and the Duck Island Hunting Tech nique: Weave a camouflage headdress of ferns and cattails, slip into the water, and, according to instructor Frank Sherwood, "sneak up on the ducks, grab their feet from underneath quickly, then pull them under." If you pull hard enough, the neck will break. If not, you must resort to choking a very angry duck into submission.
A subtle lesson in observation had also been slipped in during the day. At one point, Brown interrupted himself in mid-lecture to exclaim, "God, wasn't that a splendid herd of deer that passed this morning!" Not one student had seen them. Later, he claimed to have crept to within ten yards of the class during their debris hut demonstration. Not one student had seen him. "Pay attention," Brown warned. "Never get so involved in one thing. Do that in bear country, you get et!"
The next morning, Chris Waelder, a wiry truck driver from Long Island, roused himself at 5:30 and -- like Linus awaiting the arrival of the Great Pumpkin -- squatted out in the cornfield on a self-imposed deer watch. He paid rapt attention, but no deer materialized. Waelder had to be satisfied with spotting an owl in the barn.
Most of Wednesday was gobbled up by mundane tips on finding potable water, cooking and drying food, making cordage, tanning hides -- and, of course, more communal stewing. In the afternoon, Brown began touching on the nitty-gritty of nature awareness. "You will have the ability when I'm done with you today to track any animal you choose," he promised. "It's incredible the transformation in a person once they learn how to stalk and walk the correct way."
The correct way meant Grandfather's way, which meant the Fox Walk: lift, don't slide, the feet; roll from the outside to the inside of the foot upon hitting the ground; keep the back and head erect. All 34 students, resembling a tango line of zombies, practiced an exaggerated Fox Walk in the driveway behind the barn. When executed in super-slow motion, with slight variations, the Fox Walk becomes the preferred method of sneaking up on animals in the wild -- for either photographic purposes or to bonk them with a rabbit stick. It is often used in combination with the Weasel Walk, a half-crouch that approximates the position assumed by a man lugging a piano on his back.The Weasel Walk is a tortuous form of locomotion that produces smokeless fires of pain that burn uncontrollably through the thighs. Brown noted that as a teenager he once Weasel Walked twenty miles. No student could conceive of doing that without first having his or her vertebrae welded into a jackknife position. But Chuck Cox, a 36-year-old custodian from California, is the type who'd be willing to give marathon Weaseling a shot. To get in shape for class he had done a lot of preliminary stalking the previous month: "I just walked around like a dog and hopped around like a rabbit for three or four hours a day."
Although Brown is occasionally inspired to eat meals in the Weasel Walk position, his passion is tracking. He figures that by age 27 he had spent 21 years -- averaging 80 hours a week -- pouring over animal tracks.
"From now on, don't look at the earth as the earth," he said, opening his Thursday lecture with a poetic flourish. "It is for all intents and purposes a manuscript, something that is written upon everyday. Day after day, with the eroding effects of the wind and the weather, new chapters are always coming into play. It's an open book, every inch. And every trail is a paragraph or a sentence or a chapter of an animal's life. "
To those able to decipher them, tracks can speak volumes. Every turn of the head and blink of the eye is transmitted to the feet, explained Brown, which leave hundreds of telltale "pressure releases" on the ground. From these tiny riffles of dirt he deduces a wealth of information. "There are pressure releases in your feet that are exactly where your lungs show up," Brown informed his astonished students. Footprints, he added, will eventually replace fingerprints as the definitive means of identification.
That is assuming that the FBI can learn Brown's classification system. He has developed an intricate vocabulary to accommodate every conceivable disturbance a shoe can leave in its wake: cliff, ridge, crest, crest-crumble. cave, cave-in, plate, plate-fissure, explo sion, disk-fissure, and more. Brown walked over to a large sandbox in the rear of the classroom. He stepped in and made five distinct prints in the surface, twisting, jamming, and sliding his right foot in the sand. Students elbowed around the perimeter of the box, noses nearly touching his tracks. A few snapped flash pictures.
"Where's the secondary plate? This one here?"
"That's a spike or something."
"A peak."
"Yeah, that's it. A peak!"
"I'm trying to figure out the difference between a plate and a plate-fissure."
"This is a plate."
"This is a primary right here. So this is a secondary fissure area."
"Is that an explosion right there?"
"I don't think it's quite an explosion."
"It's a lot like geology," a voice proclaimed. "Plate tectonics."
Later that evening, after another thirteen-hour day of survival instruction, Bob Tymstra placed a call home to Ontario, Canada. "You won't believe how complicated tracking is. The guy here, Tom Brown, can tell what a guy's doing, if he sneezed! It's fun. We learned how to build a debris hut, stalk, throw sticks. All sorts of weird stuff."
Tymstra neglected to mention that there had been plenty of opportunity to acquire a taste for stew. By Friday morning some stomachs were in a mutinous mood. "Hold it! Don't do that," Chuck Nichols, a portly retired Navy man, said to a fellow student preparing to pour a batch of scrambled eggs into a pan of diced ham and onions. "We've had everything in stew all week. Let's eat something that's separate for once."
Nichols got a second gastronomic reprieve at lunch. Karen Sherwood, a fresh-faced, gracious woman who is the staff botanist, took the class foraging for edibles. Within the confines of the farm, they collected enough wild produce to whip up garlic mustard-and-dandelion fritters, spicebush tea, salad, and a side order of fresh vegetables.
"How are the greens?" Sherwood asked Mark Culleton, a social worker from Pennsylvania who was digging into a plateful of chickweed, nettles, and garlic mustard. "They're palatable," nodded Culleton. He smiled. "But I don't have anything to compare them to except my lawnmower."
Dave Wescott had trouble digesting a few things unrelated to lunch. He is the director of the Boulder Outdoor Survival School in Idaho, and Brown had invited him east to observe his operation. Westcott had mixed reactions.
"Probably the biggest service I've seen since I was here is the opening of the mind of the general public," said Wescott. "You know, 'Look around you because there's more to it than concrete and chain-link fences.' That I admire."
He was less impressed with Brown's tales of surviving without equipment in 30-degree-below-zero weather, of spending a night in an oak tree in Montana during a lightning storm ("There are no oak trees in Montana," Wescott noted), and of Grandfather's superheroics. "The metaphor goes to the heart," he sighed, "but the literal translation gets stuck in the craw....It's just really hard to buy. But that's not to say it's not true."
Tracking the Tracker is a formidable task. You might as well try to stalk a flea inside a coal mine or Weasel Walk across a hotplate. The biographical trail twists and turns. Much of it has grown cold. In his books, Brown says that Stalking Wolf eventually returned to the Southwest and died, while Rick (who is never given a surname) was killed in a horseback-riding accident in Europe. So much for the two principal corroborators. To complicate matters, Oscar Collier, who edited The Tracker and The Search, acknowledges that both names are pseudonyms, although that is never explained in the text. Collier, in fact, concedes that he himself "may have come up with" the folksy appellation Stalking Wolf.
Other aspects of the Tracker legend seem to flirt with reality. Brown, for example, contends that he started his school partly because he was inundated with 10,000 letters after Reader's Digest published an excerpt from The Tracker in November 1978. One inside source puts the mail total at "tops, 200." Brown tells his students that he made the front page of the New York Times. That is so, and the 1977 news story -- which involved a rapist Brown tracked down in Bergen County -- garnered him national attention and led to a book contract. He does not mention, however, that the suspect was acquitted at the grand jury level and subsequently successfully sued Brown and the township for false arrest and libel. Furthermore, spokesmen for Army Special Operations Command say they have no record of Tom Brown's having trained any personnel. His wife claims the arrangement is kept hush-hush for security reasons.
During his tracking lecture, Brown regaled his class with an anecdote about the Smithsonian Institution. Researchers there had brought him plaster casts of ancient footprints found at a dig in Africa. From analyzing the prehistoric pressure releases, Brown postulated that the walker had been carrying something in his right hand and looking over his left shoulder. He predicted that the man also had a hunting companion.
"This so intrigued the Smithsonian Institute that now -- they're in the process, I'm waiting for it any day -- they're gonna dig in more and over to his left. If I'm right, I've read my oldest set of tracks correctly that I've ever read."
That's interesting -- but not entirely correct. Dr. Kay Behrensmeyer, a Smithsonian anthropologist, took Brown's standard Course in 1984. She brought along with her photographs taken of casts made from footprints found in Kenya that were a million and a half years old. It just doesn't have anything to do with the Smithsonian," says Dr. Behrensmeyer. "The reason that I wan him to look at these tracks was because I thought his viewpoint would be interesting to me personally. Nothing more has been done." No additional digging is under way. No news of another find is due "any day."
Embellishment has caused Brown problems in the past. He relied on three different co-authors for his first six books. Two of them admit to having lost faith in the veracity of the narrative. "I got real uncomfortable with it," says William Jon Watkins, a professor at Brookdale Community College who carried the writing load on The Tracker. Watkins got so uncomfortable he refused to do a sequel. Among other things, he was never able to determine whether "Rick" even existed or not.
"It's a great story," Watkins says, "but the longer you're around Tom, the more you tend to think, 'Well, is this true or not?' There's nothing verifiable.... Tom is really twelve years old, and once you accept that basic fact you know exactly what you're dealing with. You can never really pin a twelve-year-old down....Once he [Brown] says something twice he really believes it. The weird thing is, every once in a while something will check out."
The Tracker, for instance, concludes with a massive rescue effort to find a retarded man lost in the Pine Barrens. The police and the National Guard couldn't turn up any clues. Brown was recruited and -- "tired and thirsty and frustrated beyond words" -- finally zeroed in on his target.
The incident took place in 1977, and a captain with the Howell Township police department confirms that Brown "was instrumental" in re solving the case.
Colonel Bill Donohue, commanding officer of the search-and-rescue unit of the Cape May County Sheriffs Department, speaks glowingly of Brown. "He is the premier tracker in the United States today....He knows more about tracking than anyone will ever know."
Donohue has taken five of Brown's courses. He has also worked with him on several criminal cases, including a pending homicide investigation. "I've been with him where he's predicted a guy was gonna urinate shortly -- and he did!" says Donohue. "It's not that he's some fantastic superhuman. It's just that he's so interested in tracking he's spent literally years on his knees."
According to Brown, the amount of "dirt time" he accumulated made for a painful journey to adulthood. As a kid he collected animal skulls, teeth, hair, and scat. After school he immediately bolted for the woods with Grandfather and Rick. His mind was filled with the spirit-that-moves-in-all-things -- not sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. John Young, the owner of a natural-food restaurant in Red Bank, grew up on the street in Holmdel where Brown lived in the early 1970s. Brown was a leader of Young's Boy Scout troop and often let him and his sister tag along on walks in the woods. Young has "verifiable evidence" that Brown did know an old Indian, although "the exact nature of the story isn't exactly as he says it is." The factual deviations, says Young, are simply a way of preserving and protecting sacred memories. He adds it's important to keep in mind that Indians place spiritual truth above literal truth. Don't expect hard facts from Tom Brown: "Tom is more of a native man than he is a white man, so he doesn't always subscribe to the principles of white people first."
Young confirms that dancing to the beat of a different tom-tom brought Brown hard times. "He couldn't hold a job because he was always off in the woods," says Young. "He couldn't find a respectable position, and it seemed many people were always telling him he was a loser. My parents told me that he was some kind of nut. You know, 'He must be a queer or something. Why's he hanging around with all these young people?' Basically people his own age couldn't deal with him. People that were older than him just looked down on him as some kind of irresponsible bum. Because they didn't know anything about his native side."
Young knew that side and appreciated it. He has no doubts that Brown is authentic. He remembers that on one of their jaunts in the Pine Barrens they came upon the newly laid foundation of a house. Brown "went into what looked like a meditative trance." Nothing spooky, just total concentration. He then methodically kicked and punched the cement foundation to smithereens.
"Tore it down with his hands," remarks Young. "The guy is incredibly strong and capable of that kind of demonstration of mind over matter."


Tom Brown has adopted a black paw print as a personal and corporate logo. It is a coyote track. Among Native American Indians a coyote teacher is the most powerful and wil iest of men. A trickster. A manipulator. He will lie to you, play dumb, fake you out -- anything to convey his lesson. Is Tom Brown a coyote teacher, a legitimate miracle man of the outdoors, or a slick businessman with a hyperactive imagination? Is he out to save the world or save a bundle? A former associate, who requested anonymity, notes that Brown barely made $2,000 a year chopping wood before he became a celebrity survivalist, whereupon his gross income rose to more than $300,000.
Brown acknowledges that he's not entirely comfortable with his adopted role himself. "At times I feel like a cross between an old hellfire-and-brimstone minister and a snake-oil salesman. 'Trust me!' You know?"
He is sitting by a rolltop desk in his office, which is on the first floor of a modern farmhouse located about 100 yards from the Tracker barn. Brown rents the property and lives there with his wife, Judy, their son, Tommy, age nine, and Judy's twenty-year-old son, Paul, from a previous marriage. The office is tastefully appointed with feathers, arrows, and knives. A stuffed owl perpetually threatens to fly out the window.
There is less of the bluster Brown displays in public, but an emotional wall remains in place. As one student complained: "I don't know who this guy is....He's just a blank." In terms of sociability, Brown has a tendency to be as cold as yesterday's campfire.
"It's still an alien world. I just don't mix well," he says, not a surprising admission coming from a man who wishes he'd been born 300 or 400 years ago. "I had a hard time ––- I still have a hard time -- dealing with society."
Things are better, though. Conversation is tolerable now. A few years ago it was painful. Slowly, carefully, Brown will venture forth from the debris hut of his own defenses. He crosses the room and grabs an arrow off a shelf, like a proud Little League parent showing off his son's first home run ball. Young Tommy carved the arrow when he was five. The shaft is straight, the fletching precise. The boy is deadly with a rabbit stick and "just about gettin' interested in starting the bow drill."
Brown is most relaxed when in motion -- scampering upstairs to show off his son's budding collection of animal skulls, bounding into the living room to inform Judy that the osprey just coasted across the back of the house again" -- but he's never completely at ease. ("Do that in bear country, you get et.") Questions about his background are addressed, but not in depth. No, he doesn't have any photos of Grandfather. "We never had cameras when we were kids.... We were too busy doing everything." His record, Brown in sists, speaks for itself.
"I've got my reputation to go on. I've got things that work. I've got students who've field-tested things. How are you gonna be a critic against that?.. I tell people, 'You will have the ability to track deer' -- and I've had students go out during a Standard Course and touch deer."
The problem from Brown's perspective isn't that his life is so unbelievable but that most men's lives are so uninspired. "Indians in general are mythological. What they could do on a daily basis compared to what we do as a society...was phenomenal. Being able to walk out with nothing and survive -–– lavishly -- blows people away. See, to me, that's commonplace. I find it more difficult to survive in this society than out in the woods."

Saturday morning, Survival Day Six. The Tracker stood at the edge of the woods, surrounded by field grass, wildflowers, and a large knot of students. The uninitiated had no idea that the meadow was a Broadway and 42nd Street of subhuman activity.
"What you're sitting on is a huge network of highways and byways and rolls and pushdowns,' exclaimed Brown. "What you're looking at is the world of the voles."
Commonly known as field mice, voles are dietary staples, the chopped chuck of the animal kingdom. Brown dropped to his knees and probed the matted grass. "I start parting the grasses going down to the bare earth,' he said. "The first thing you'll notice is a vole tunnel, then vole chews....lf there's voles, there's damn well gonna be rabbits, weasels, and everything else."
His students poked arms into the grass, feeling for tiny pathways. They spread across the field, crawling and peeping, 34 rear ends jutting skyward as if this small New Jersey hillside were the repository for America's lost contact lenses. Somewhere below, hidden like minute Easter eggs, were bits of nibbled grass, vole hairs, and vole droppings.
"Now, vole scat's neat,' declared Brown, with boyish delight. "If it's bright green, it's fresh. Brown-green, it's a day old. Brown, two days old. Black, it's a week old."
Unseasoned eyes began to focus on miniature signs of life. One student unearthed dried fox scat. Another spied a vole mustache hair. They weren't close to nature, they were covered with it. Dead grass adhered epaulet-like to the shoulders of wool shirts. Burrs nes tled in long hair. Pants were drenched with dew.
"Tom!" yelled a man with a ponytail. Brown high-stepped into the brambles to examine the discovery. The verdict came quickly. "We got rabbit hair! Middle back!"
"It's an awareness that grows every day,' marveled Jim Helton. He grinned. "I never thought the day would come when I'd be happy to find shit." Helton paused to consider the practical ramifications of taking the entire Tracker curriculum. "I was thinking, if you get hooked on this stuff, you could spend three or four grand." Brown meanwhile was circumventing the field. He had progressed beyond the realm of scat. Over there, five deer tracks. Over here, a deer lay. He lingered by a depression in the grass the size of a potato sack. "Look at that fox lay right here. It's gorgeous!" he cooed. "You can see the whole outline of the fox. Fox, when they lay down, are very round. Rabbits are egg-shaped. Deer are very long."
Unable to contain himself, Brown hollered to Carl Povisils. "Bear, it's time to go runnin' naked in the pines!"
Actually, it was time for sittin' semi-naked in the sweat lodge. The only bit of survival business remaining was to do some tricky tracking in the driveway. Brown sprawled in the gravel as if working his way through a minefield, pointing out pockmarks and scratches with a two-inch safety pin. See that egg-shaped mark? Fox track. "Week and a half old. Before the rain." Nearby, four teensy claw marks. "See 'em?" Yes, yes. "It's a mouse.... That one's pretty fresh."
The Saturday night sweat was to be conducted exactly as Grandfather had taught Tom and Rick. In the pitch-black cornfield, two Tracker workers tended what appeared to be a funeral pyre. They were superheating dozens of rocks. The fire pit glowed molten orange. The two silhouettes labored against a curtain of spewing sparks.
Although this was essentially a recreational sweat, the students were respectfully subdued, novice survivalists about to be confirmed. They sat quietly in the barn in their bathing suits, waiting for the rocks to cook to perfection. "I could crank up a sweat lodge that could blister your ass," remarked Brown, filling time. "I can direct the heat. I could stick you to the ground."
It was, however, a Teflon sweat: No behinds stuck to anything. The temperature held at health-club level. After six days of beans, stew, Porta-Johns, and bucket baths, it was a relief to cleanse the body from the inside out. The sweat lodge is a waist-high, oblong construction of bundled grass. The students sat in the dark in three concentric circles, heads resting on drawn up knees. During the twenty-minute ceremony, no one spoke but Brown. He sprinkled sage, sweet grass, and cedar on the steaming rocks. He chanted in Apache, his voice sad and low as an old Indian's. He recited prayers in English, and rain started to fall. Prayers for his enemies. Prayers for the Earth Mother. Prayers for humanity "lost in a world we do not understand." Three times, as if on cue, thunder rolled majestically over the hills of Northern New Jersey.

"Maybe it was coincidence, but I don't think so," Chris Waelder said on Sunday morning, referring to the heavenly sound effects of the night before. He called it "a great ceremonial sweat," even though Brown had declined to use the sage Waelder brought from home. He had had it specially blessed by a medicine man named Johnny Free Soul. With only one or two exceptions, his classmates were equally pleased with the sweat lodge and the week's indoctrination. Half seemed to have taken Brown's every word literally. The other half believed the message, if not always the messenger. "I'm a 36-year-old man," said Mark Culleton, who had a hard time swallowing Grandfather whole. "No one's gonna bullshit me."
All the students gathered in front of the Tracker barn for a graduation picture. Brown was conspicuously absent. He may have been busy putting on his game face for the closing lecture. It lasted about two hours. He opened with some farewell tracking tips -- and some last-ditch braggadocio about the 40 concussions he's incurred, the four times he's been shot, and the burden of being the target of "at least" twenty criminals whom he'd helped put behind bars.
The talk then turned to more serious matters. To famine in Africa. To Grandfather's prophecy about holes in the ozone layer. To aquifers running dry. To time running out.
"Mankind, away from the earth, no longer obeys the rules of cre ation, " Brown said sorrowfully. " And every time nature throws up a warning, mankind ignores it.... I see people walk outside and never feel the sunshine, never feel the wind in their hand, never bend down to the ground and smell the soil. They don't even know what grass looks like."
The sermon gathered momentum and fury. The preacher's voice welled up as he recollected the birth of his son. In keeping with a promise made to Grandfather, he had taken his baby to their "sacred place" in the Pine Barrens, where he was to bless the boy with his ceremonial pipe amid the sweet silence of the forest. To his shock, the old campsite was foul and smelled of man: It had been turned into a gypsy garbage dump.
Students dabbed at red eyes with hankies. Sobs and sniffles mingled with the chirps of birds in the cornfield. Tears streamed down the face of the Tracker."My greatest hope in life is that I die right here, giving it all I can give," he moaned, struggling to complete sentences. "I hope you never have to lay your baby down in a pile of garbage. People, there's a voice crying out there. It's the Earth Mother, crying and dying. Do something.... We are so far gone as a planet I wonder if there's any hope left. And that's why I teach and why I'll always teach....And that's why I can't run anymore."
Brown sank back in his chair, emotionally spent. Students exchanged long hugs, rocking in each other's arms. Was it hellfire or snake oil they'd bought? Whether the sermon flew straight to the heart -- like a perfectly carved arrow -- probably had a lot to do with how deeply the heart ached for this troubled world.
There is a quote on a wall of the Tracker barn, tacked up among skulls, skins, and other survival souvenirs. It is attributed to Sitting Bull. The broken Indian was addressing representatives of the land-grabbing federal government, but his words could be uttered by any unsatisfied twentieth-century soul who seeks Tom Brown's guidance in putting his life back in balance: "If a man loses everything and goes back and looks carefully for it, he will find it. And that is what we are doing now when we ask you to give us the things that are ours."
In and out of the woods, however, survival can depend on being able to distinguish between truth and illusion. Lapses in judgment turn predators into prey. A cautious Weasel Walker will recall how one of Tom Brown's assistants explained the logic behind a Rolling Snare animal trap: "Your traps gotta blend in with the terrain. Most animals are smart. But they're not brilliant."
 

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Good read Luther,a little long winded tho!!
It is often suggested to live near water and you'll never go hungry. I've often admired the survival skills of the Cajuns in Louisiana. Does anybody know about any books or anything that explains how they do it?
part of my family still lives in Metarie and Slidell,I spent long days fishin Ponchartrain,Cajun folk are just about like anyone else.
Poor people handle hard times better than most cuz they know how to make do on little.Most folks are fucked because they have been spoiled all there lives,plus a cajun will eat Nutria,southern muskrat,who here would?Shit I bet only a handfull a people here could clean me a chicken!!Or better yet,go out in the woods or fields and come back with dinner and fixins??I Can :wave:

Me I'm a coon ass yeah but ya couldnt hardly told it no!!
 

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this is fascinating, i just have a problem with the survivalist mentality: don't give up on the human race yet. those of us who aren't mindless cattle have a responsibility to change things and the minds of those around us for the better, not just stock up on food and batten down the hatches. get the message out there, get those mindless, complacent suburban fucks who're bleeding our world dry to realize just what they're a part of. i'm not saying we shouldn't be prepared, and paranoia is underrated, but change (even on a global scale) starts somewhere.
 
OK, RED145, I'll stop by this weekend and we can compare notes.

;-)

Seriously though, I'm taking notes. There's a Tupelo/Cypress swamp I visit that has crawfish that look like small lobsters. A few crawfish traps would go a long way towards supplying food. Hunting is fun, but reliable traps stay out there 24 hours every day working for you while you can do other things.

I caught a good tip from Survivorman the other day. It's been mentioned that if all you have to eat is rabbit, you will starve because rabbit is so lean. Les pointed out that's because most people don't eat the whole thing. If you eat the brains, internal organs and bones, they will supply enough fat to keep you healthy.

I'm not giving up on the human race either. I'm serving humanity by keeping some of the old ways alive. High technology is great, but it seems like computers are doing more and more things for us all the time. It's important we don't lose all of our abilities to do things for ourselves.
 
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I moved my family to the mountains as soon as I could. I figure this is an area of little interest if the government wanted to crack down, impose Marshall law, whathaveyou.

The people around here are used to thinking in terms of crisis, making very little go a long way. They are friendly, industrious, hard working folk. If the supermarkets go dry, these folks will survive... most of them.

We have water on our property, a year-round stream, fed by a mountain spring. We are learning to keep farm animals, chickens, turkeys, goats, etc.

Most importantly, we grow fine ass, super dank cannabis... which will ALWAYS be in high demand. If the economy goes bunk, us dank growers will have a very valuable commodity with which to trade for necessities.
 

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not my words, but a good read:

Many of us have a garden and enjoy fresh vegetables during the summer and fall. Maybe we even have a few chickens for eggs and meat. But many of us may want to extend our homesteading to what I call “hard-core” homesteading. This is serious homesteading, aimed at being able to provide your family with nearly all of its basic needs.

Luckily, most of us with a piece of out-of-the-way land can become nearly “store-bought-free,” raising much of what we need in nearly the same way as did our ancestors.

There is a vast difference between this type of survival homesteading and stars-in-the-eyes, back-to-nature, recreational homesteading to relieve stress and provide enjoyment. The difference is not so much in how-to, but in discipline and learning.


The survival garden
It has been said that one can raise enough food for a family of four in a 50- by 50-foot space. While such an area can provide a goodly amount of food, there is no way a family could survive, year-round, off such a small patch. In reality, all that this is is a “house garden” for providing fresh produce such as greens, broccoli, cabbage, peppers, herbs, etc.

When one needs a garden to put up food, not only for the winter but possibly for a year or two, we’re talking about at least an acre of intense cropping.


A few rows of beans will produce quarts and quarts.


This includes a patch of wheat for grinding into cereal and flour; flour corn for hominy and corn meal; sweet corn for eating, canning, and dehydrating; and rows of dry beans as well as fresh beans (yellow wax, green, pole, etc.) for putting up. Here we stumble on the weak link in most folks’ gardens. They say “We only use a few pounds of corn meal or dry beans a year,” and they feel confident they can get by with just a few packages of such items, bought at the grocers.

But having lived in a wild corner of Montana, well above the “grocery line” (because of road accessibility), I can tell you that you will use many more pounds of these staples when you cannot eat from the store shelves.

And if there are no store shelves to choose from, we will all need to take care of our own needs at home. Remember, it takes more than one year to get a garden into full production. You can’t just plow up a plot and expect to survive off of it, especially if you lack experience.

You can’t grow everything, everywhere. Look at your local production capabilities. Here in New Mexico I can grow anything. In the high country of Montana, nearly everything was a challenge even though I’ve gardened all my life. But we could survive from my Montana garden with potatoes, wheat, and beans along with a number of cold-loving crops we grew. What you need to do is put your energy into growing what will make a crop in your location.

But don’t be afraid to experiment. Everywhere I’ve gardened I’ve grown crops that locals said “wouldn’t grow.”

To better use space, consider inter-planting as much as possible. Grow cornfield beans among the flour corn, radishes in the same row as carrots, peppers between rows of tomatoes (which act as windbreaks), pumpkins and squash next to a corn field where they can run into the corn after cultivation has stopped. (Don’t do this with sweet corn or you will have a devil of a time picking the corn stumbling among rampant squash vines.) Inter-planting will do much to save garden space, a large consideration in survival gardening, especially when you must cultivate and till by hand.


Crops for a survival garden
Everyone who gardens grows some things just because they enjoy the taste. This is great, and we all do it. But in hard-core homesteading, we must consider our basic needs, as well.

We need to grow enough grain and corn for ourselves and livestock. This can be done by hand, in a relatively small plot, provided that our poultry and livestock needs are small. If you need more grain, say for cattle or horses, consider small scale farming with horses. This is a sustainable way of living as horses are easy to work, versatile, and provide manure for the fields. They also require no fuel to run. One team of moderate-sized horses can do as much work as a small tractor and cost little to maintain.

As little as an acre of ground can supply modest grain needs for a family homestead. Include a bit of rye, oats, and barley for variation. (There is a naked-seeded oat that is great for homesteaders, as at home one has a difficult task in hulling oats for oatmeal.)

Besides small grains, include your rows of flour corn for corn meal and hominy, being sure to include enough for livestock feeding.

Most folks have to double or even triple the amount of usual garden produce to allow for putting up as much each year as possible. Be sure to allow for lots of tomatoes for tomato sauces, and enough root crops, such as turnips, potatoes and carrots. (You’ll eat a lot more “homegrown” when you can’t run to the store for “quick” meals.)

With all survival garden vegetables, a family should buy only open pollinated varieties. This will enable folks to save seeds from year to year, which is not recommended with hybrids. Hybrid seed, while usually fertile, can not be depended upon to reproduce truly. And, contrary to popular belief, most of those old open pollinated varieties are good tasting and hardy.


Perennial for the survival garden
Along with the vegetables, a hard-core homesteader should establish a good variety of perennial edibles. These include asparagus, Jerusalem artichokes, horseradish, garlic, perennial onions, and herbs for both culinary and medicinal use.
A survival homestead needs
a large, productive garden.
Remember to encourage native perennial edibles which do well in your area. These may include prickly pear cactus (the fruits and pads are eaten as a vegetable), wild rice, wild greens, cattails, mushrooms, etc. In a survival situation, one truly appreciates variety in the diet.

The perennials have the advantage of having to be planted only once and usually expand on their own with little human help. And, like the annuals, which must be planted each year, a family can gather and put up many jars full of winter eating. I can wild and domestic asparagus, wild mushrooms, wild greens, cactus pads (known as nopalitos in the southwest), and dry many other wild and domestic perennials.


Small fruits are nearly essential
Nearly everyone has room to plant a good selection of small fruits. These include strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, rhubarb, blueberries, and so forth. Luckily, once a patch of each has been established, one can readily take divisions or replant sprouts to greatly increase their food-producing capabilities.

As with the vegetable garden, one should grow as great a variety of small fruits as possible, and enough of each to put up significant jam, preserves, and canned and dried fruit. In hard times, a good loaf of hot whole wheat bread spread thickly with homemade strawberry jam, or a steaming blueberry pie, makes the term “survival” a joke. We call it living good.

You quickly discover that small fruits are a wonderful treat that can be easily turned into strawberry shortcake, blueberry pancakes, rhubarb tarts, blackberry cobbler, etc. In hard times, you don’t eat many candy bars; instead you substitute healthier fruit snacks and desserts.

Even picky eaters greatly enjoy dried fruits and fruit leathers which are easy to make at home.


Every homestead should include a small orchard
Even the smallest homestead has room for fruit trees. With the variety of tree sizes and shapes, you can choose full-sized trees which are tremendous producers, but take room and several years to begin bearing fruit. Semi-dwarf trees, which usually require only a 10- by 10-foot spacing, produce full sized fruit in moderate amounts and only take a couple of years to bear. Dwarf and “pole” trees, which produce full sized fruit in small amounts, can be raised on a patio in a portable tub.

A hard-core homesteader can get by with two each of several varieties to provide variety and cross-pollination. I’d suggest apple, pear, pie and sweet cherry, apricot, and plum for most gardeners. Of course, if you can grow citrus in your zone, go for it. We live in zone 5 and have two Brown Turkey Figs in a protected corner of our east flower bed—protected by the house from the killer winter north winds.


Small fruits go a long way to alleviate hard times.


Now a lot of folks say they’d need acres and acres to reach this level of self-reliance in the food department. Not so. My grandmother did it on two city lots in Detroit. Instead of normal landscaping, nearly everything she grew produced edible fruit: peach, grapes, brambles, quince, asparagus, apple, crab apple, strawberry, etc.) Having gone through the Depression as a widow with two young boys to raise, Grandma knew how to fend off hard times.


But what about meat?
Like produce and fruit, a family can grow all of their meat requirements, right at home. Now few people actually like to kill to eat, but when it comes down to eating or not eating meat, most of us can find a way around our revulsions. After all, someone had to kill that steer that went into your Big Mac. It gets ridiculous when visitors won’t eat a home-butchered beef roast but will buy a tainted, chemical-laden piece of plastic-wrapped roast at the supermarket and eat it with abandon.

Folks on a very small acreage will usually have to limit their meat production to poultry, rabbits, and perhaps a little goat meat. A small flock of chickens for egg and meat production, with a couple of hutches of rabbits and the castrated male offspring of the family dairy goats will do much to help out at the dinner table. Of course, a family with these reduced production capabilities will not eat meat every day, but it will be able to enjoy regular meals with meat as a feature.

The benefit of having only a small poultry flock, a few hutches of rabbits, and very few goats is that the feed requirements and labor requirements are also minimal. In such cases, a family can easily hand-raise and harvest all feeds necessary to maintain their meat and egg supply.

Small-holders can help supplement their meat needs by hunting and fishing. But remember, if times are hard nationwide, subsistence hunting will become very difficult in most areas, as it did during homestead days and during the Depression. The game quickly disappears with overhunting. Fishing holds up much better, so it benefits a family if they hone fishing skills before they are truly needed. (Besides, it’s enjoyable family “work,” as well.) For lucky backwoods dwellers who live near the seacoast or a salmon stream, fishing can well be the major source of family meat.

Folks with more acreage are in better shape to truly be meat self-reliant. Using horsepower to till moderate amounts of land, a family can raise enough small grain, field corn, and forage (hay and pasture) to maintain not only the horses but a couple of dairy cows or several dairy goats. Let me stop right here and address you folks who are saying, “Goats! No way am I going to raise those stinking tin can eaters!”.

Goats do not eat tin cans, nor do they run around butting people, any more than do cattle. Goats are exceptionally clean, picky eaters, refusing to take a bite of the apple you just took a bite out of, and they’ll dehydrate before they will drink from a bucket containing even one berry of manure. Only bucks in rut have any odor. While in rut they will spray their neck, belly, and chin with urine as an attractant to does in heat. So do elk and deer. The normal scent glands on a buck’s head, which produce scent during rut, can be removed by surgery when the buck is an adult or during disbudding, leaving a scent-free male totally capable of breeding. Does never have an objectionable odor, and with neat droppings the pen is quite clean and odor-free with even minimal daily maintainance.

We’ve had both dairy goats and cattle, and we know the benefits and drawbacks of each. Both produce milk which is equally good-tasting. A goat often produces multiple offspring while a cow produces one calf a year.

Cattle are easier to fence in, but goats will do great in a pasture grown over to willows and brush as they are by nature browsers like deer. And, like deer, they can hop a four-foot field fence to enter your young orchard and strip the tender trees of their bark and twigs. Cows produce beef; goats produce chevron. Both are good, but different.

Chevron comes in carcass weights from between 20 and 100 pounds of dressed weight, depending on age. They are easier to cut up and handle, but their small carcass lasts a much shorter period of time than a 600-pound Angus carcass.

Remember that worldwide there are thousands more goats used for meat and dairy production than there are cattle. There are reasons, and economy is at the top followed by the quickness of meat consumption in areas without refrigeration. A 600-pound cattle carcass is likely to spoil before it’s completely consumed.


Chickens provide both meat and eggs for a survival homestead.

Pigs are another cog in the serious homesteader’s wheel of self-reliance. Not only can a few pigs easily be raised for butchering—being fed from home-produced feed, kitchen and dairy waste (skim milk is an excellent food), along with weeds, pasture, and hog-foraged feed—but they provide excellent meat with a carcass that is quite easily handled by the family. The bonus of hogs is that they produce lard, the only homegrown cooking fat easily obtainable.

Yes, I know about high cholesterol, but let me tell you that when you are working hard everyday to put food and other necessities on the table, your cholesterol will balance easier than your finances.


Homegrown dairy products
Okay, so far you have a good vegetable plot, small fruits, small grains, and an orchard and meat/egg supply started. It’s time to think about dairy products, particularly milk and cheese. After that stored dry milk is gone, your family will want something to replace it. And what is more natural than learning to run a tiny kitchen dairy and cheese plant? All dairy products are quite easy to produce at home, and as with almost everything else, it’s much better when homemade.

I’ve made cottage cheese, cream cheese, mozzarella, colby, cheddar cheese, sour cream, cheese spreads, balls, logs and sandwich loaves, ice cream, ice milk, sherbet, and more regularly at home, both from cow and goat milk. Butter and whipped cream are easier to do from cow milk, as the cream quickly separates out, floating to the top. Goat milk is naturally homogenized and it takes more “doing” to access the cream. Both animals’ milk produces good-tasting dairy products.

Suggestions for
a survival garden
green beans, pole & bush
sweet corn (various
maturing dates)
yellow wax beans
carrots
dry beans (several types)
tomatoes (several varieties)
potatoes
turnips
rutabagas
cabbage
broccoli
cauliflower
cucumbers
onions
greens of several types
spinach
lettuce
peas (dry & green)
pumpkins
summer squash
winter squash
muskmelon watermelon


A good milking doe goat will produce about 3 quarts each milking, on average, where an average milk cow will produce much more—about three gallons. So your choice will depend on your facilities, labor and needs. Remember that all “extra” milk can be used to produce dairy products such as butter (which can also be used as a cooking fat) and cheese; dairy by-products can be fed to chickens and hogs. Extra milk can be used to bottle feed young calves or kid goats. On a survival homestead, there is no waste!

When planning on establishing a home kitchen dairy, be sure to stock up on such things as rennet tablets, which make forming cheese curd much easier and more reliable, cheese cultures (as you need for some “fancier” cheeses), cheese cloth and a cheese press or the materials to make one. These materials can be as simple as a #10 can or a 4-inch piece of PVC pipe and wood.

Okay, now we have your family ready with a vegetable garden, small fruits, grains, orchard, meat/eggs, and dairy production. Pretty nifty, right? You bet. For now you can also make soap from used cooking fats, which you can save in a can after each use. Soap making is easy and glitch free, requiring only strained, clean used fat and lye (which can be produced by seeping water down through wood ashes). This soap is great and can be used to wash clothes, babies, and hair.

Add a hive or two of bees, and your sugar requirements are easily met. Then too, the bees will pollinate your entire garden, grain patch and orchard, ensuring bountiful harvests. Bees are easily established and easy to work with. I’ve only been stung twice working with domestic bees, and probably a few dozen times by “wild” bees.

Survival homesteading is addicting. Once you get started, your mind works constantly at ways you can do more to be less reliant on the system. Now I say “can do” as few homesteaders actually practice every bit of their knowledge. I can raise and shear sheep, spinning wool into yarn to make clothes. And I can tan hides from which to fashion clothes and footwear. But I choose to use my time in other ways, which are more productive to the family at present. But the knowledge is there, should our needs change.

Survival homesteading is rewarding, financially and spiritually, as a basic instinct in human beings is to provide for their own and their family’s needs. Never become overwhelmed by feeling that you must do everything at once. It is better to proceed in steady forward steps, rather than to run forward, fall and lose heart. One vital tip: start small and work your way up as your ability and knowledge increases. Your survival homestead depends on it.
 

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^^^ Looks like an excerpt from Mother Earth. :) Or Grit Magazine. I subscribe to those. :) Great reads.
 
Nice read, NOKUY. You've contributed much to the community here at icmag. Thanks

I'm motivated to stock up on open-pollinated seeds.

My favorite organic gardening guru is Eliot Coleman. His book, The Four Season Harvest, is one of my favorites. A one of my favorite parts of the book are compost is very important. I keep several piles in various stages of decomposition. Mache' or corn salad is one tough plant. Mr Coleman states it can grow on a glacier. I use his formula to make my own fertilizer. Equal parts blood meal, greensand and rock phosphate. I like to keep a few 50 pound bags around.
 

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thanks CC and luther :wave:

in my day to day life i dont run into very many people who are into this stuff, so it's cool that there are some like-minded peeps here.

ill chek out that book luther

cc that article is from "backwoods home" magazine one of my fav. mags next to "Ride UK"

i think backwoods home and mother earth news are sim. ....i havent seen but maybe 1 or 2 issues of mother earth, and havent heard of grit.

you guys should check out www.backwoodshome.com if u havent. it's pretty much a cut through the bullshit and deal w/ self reliance rag.
 
It's time to bump this thread with a new post.

We’ve pretty well covered what we can do during tough times while remaining at home. What if we need to evacuate on foot, perhaps never to return and all we can take with us is what we can carry? A few things that quickly spring to mind are: a backpack, a knife, a water filter and/or water treatment tablets, a metal cooking pot, a water container, everybody has their own preferences for hunting weapons and I would take my traditional longbow with arrows and some lightweight fishing tackle along with some high-strength fishing line of course some high-energy food such as nuts, dried fruit, jerkey, olive oil, a good sleeping bag and lightweight tarp for a quick shelter, wool clothing, plenty of socks, good broken-in boots or shoes, rain gear, a first aid kit, a repair kit with duct tape, wire, glue, heavy needle and thread, rain gear and last but not least a good supply of cannabis buds. Does anybody else have any good ideas?
 

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Luther Budbank said:
It's time to bump this thread with a new post.

We’ve pretty well covered what we can do during tough times while remaining at home. What if we need to evacuate on foot, perhaps never to return and all we can take with us is what we can carry? A few things that quickly spring to mind are: a backpack, a knife, a water filter and/or water treatment tablets, a metal cooking pot, a water container, everybody has their own preferences for hunting weapons and I would take my traditional longbow with arrows and some lightweight fishing tackle along with some high-strength fishing line of course some high-energy food such as nuts, dried fruit, jerkey, olive oil, a good sleeping bag and lightweight tarp for a quick shelter, wool clothing, plenty of socks, good broken-in boots or shoes, rain gear, a first aid kit, a repair kit with duct tape, wire, glue, heavy needle and thread, rain gear and last but not least a good supply of cannabis buds. Does anybody else have any good ideas?


luther good post, i've been thinking about this thread alot lately myself,.

if i was just gonna bounce and could only take a few things, i'd have a hard time...my dogs can carry packs, so they would help and offer quite a bit of protection at the same time.

i'd prolly keep the guns as opposed to the archery, (tho i love bow hunting) but i'm not gonna rely on a bow for survival IF i can stay strapped.

i have a really nice bacpackers multi-fuel stove that works on coleman white-fuel or unleaded gas. I've used the thing more times than the stove in my kitchen, so---that would come along.

wool sweater for sho.

I'm a slave to cold fresh water, so yeah a personal filter for me as opposed to the tablets, but the tabs might be a good call.

knife of course
fishing gear of course
tarp no doubt!

if you can make jerky before u gotta bounce a cpl pounds will sustain you for a veeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time, and the dogs can eat it too....i have a smoker, and i make jerky all the time, i think i need to get a food dehydrator ASAP too.

one other thing that you'll be glad everyday that u have in this scenario is an "iso-mat"....thats what we called them in the USMC....i dont know the general term for them, but a lightweight foam mat that rolls up that u sleep on. (my girlfriends yoga mat works great for this too)

...and the best sleeping bag that u can get your hands on....I have a mummy bag rated at -40 deg F it's from www.cabelas.com and is the best thing on earth. (last time we went skiing/snow machine riding in the backcountry i slept in my bag on top of a snow drift outside in under zero weather)

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ill be back in a few w/ some more thoughts :wave:
 

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I've been reading that backwoods magazine since you sent the link. :) I like that article called "The joys of idleness". hehehe Exactly how I think. The writer quoted Mark Twain as saying, "If work were so pleasant, the rich would keep it for themselves."

Hahaha I love counterculture thinking like that. Do what you have to to be where you want to be, then fucking relax!!!

I'm subscribing to the mag right now. :) Great link. Thanks.
 
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Crazy Composer said:
I've been reading that backwoods magazine since you sent the link. :) I like that article called "The joys of idleness". hehehe Exactly how I think. The writer quoted Mark Twain as saying, "If work were so pleasant, the rich would keep it for themselves."

Hahaha I love counterculture thinking like that. Do what you have to to be where you want to be, then fucking relax!!!

I'm subscribing to the mag right now. :) Great link. Thanks.


hey check out this book too...everyone!

http://www.backwoodshome.com/store/files/th29.html
 

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I'm glad this thread is back.
Things are getting rough.
Food and energy prices soaring.
Food riots all over the world.
I'm working hard to grow at least 1 ton of food before the end of the year.

If anyone out there own land, or have a yard,
I recommend that you grow as much food as you can.
This is gonna be fun.
 

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hunt4...yeah its gettin scary.

only a few of us will be/feel comfortable when the shit hits the fan.

...i hope peeps read the first post here.....

I wouldent wanna be one of the chumps caught w/ my pants down when the whole system drops!

...BTW...i cant wait hehe
 

hunt4genetics

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has anyone tried to buy a 20lb bag of rice lately?

It could be just people reacting to the news reports from last night, or this can be the very start of a food shortage.
 
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